CTR1 -- Jump Without Looking (the Deity Virgin Sacrifice)

The war goes .... well

74 infantry
84 tanks
27 art
Cannot place spy in persia

end turn

ibt:
carrier near home
kill 2 mechs, 1 tank
turn 1

Grand River Worker -> Walls
San Fran tank->tank
Dark Blue tank -> tank
St. Louis tank ->tank
New Orleans Tank -> Tank
Kagoshima tank -> tank

84 tanks after 5 made.

Cincinatti disease ... must clear jungle.
Nara Cath -> tank

Kill 2 inf near oil spring, lose 1 tank.

Elite cav kills tank - no gl.
Vet cav kills mech inf - no promo

4 more tanks die, kill elite tank, 3 inf, 4 mech inf.

Cav kills cav.

HugeSoD moves to mount. 2 turns to assault on York

A SoD building near Tonawanda. To attack in next 2 turns or so.


Tanks : 79
Cannot steal tech - no money.

Mil:
ave vs Eng (demo),
weak vs Pers (com)

MapStat :
Jap Acq Need
Tiles 1237 390
Pop 741 342

Persia
Tiles 617 1010
Pop 538 545

Eng
Tiles 535 1092
Pop 345 738

End Turn 1
IBT : Lose 4 tank, kill 2 mech inf.
Eng bombers laying waste to roads around Mauch Chung

Turn 2 :

Kyoto tank -> tank
Boston tank -> tank
Phili Market -> tank
Osaka Inf -> Inf
Seattle tank -> tank
Sirp-Orange tank -> tank
Miami tank->tank
Dark Choc- tank -> tank
Edo tank-> tank
SatSuma tank -> tank
Rheims tank -> tank

Disease strikes cincinatti. Workers are gathering

Merv Aque ->tank
Memphis tank ->tank

Vet tank kills tank
Vet tank kills tank
Tank dies against Mech Inf
Tank kills mech inf, promo to vet
Tank kills tank (redline).

Attack Tonawanda.
Lose 1 tank.
2 tanks kill mech inf.
Elite tank kills mech inf, capture Tonawanda (no GL).

Seattle tank changed to battlefield Med (6)
NEw Orleans tank ->Mil Acad (4).

Damn -massive WW roundVast MMing done. Prod from 2485 to 2451 - thans to Furs.I have traded 4 luxes for FUR- we need happiness!

83 tanks

MapStat :

Jap Acq Need diff
Tiles 1244 383 -7 (better)
Pop 760 327 -15 (better)

Persia
tiles 622 1005 -5
pop 538 549 +4 (good for us)

Eng
tiles 523 1104 +12
pop 332 755 +17

End turn 2:

ibt : Lose about 6 tanks - kill maybe 2 mech inf, 1 tank.

Turn 3

Dark green tank-> tank
Dark Blue tank -> Tank
Detroit tank ->tank

No riots !
Pollution striking quite a bit, and we are seeing 2 to 3 tiles hit by global warming!

England in Anarchy.

Mil : we are strong v Eng(anarch)
we are weak v Persia (com)

Kill 2 tanks, lose 1.
Lose 2 tanks, kill 2 mech inf, 1 tank, an capture Oil Springs. Vet promotes to elite.


The great assault on york! Mass bombarding kill some pop, destoy some buildings, injures about 5 or so mech inf.
1 tank dies, redlines mech
1 tank dies
tank redlines, kills mech
tank redlines, kill mech
tank dies, mech promotes (3/5)
2 tanks dies again 3/5 mech
tank kill 3/5 mech
tank dies on 1/4 mech - prmo to 2/5
tank kills mech inf, CAPTURES YORK (size 22). cApture 1 art.


Tanks : 72

MapStat :

Jap Acq Need Diff
tiles 1262 365 -18 SMILE!!
pop 791 294 -33 SMILE!!

persia
tiles 623 1004 -1
pop 537 548 +3

eng
tiles 503 1124 +20
pop 298 787

End turn 3

IBT : no losses !

Turn 4

Kyoto tank->tank
Delhi worker ->worker

Osaka Inf->inf
San Fran tank-> tank
Dark Choc tank-> tank
Edo tank -> tank
Satsuma tank->tank
Kagoshima tank->tank
Memphis tank->tank
New Karachi tank->tank

tank dies v mech
tank kills mech.
tank kill inf.
Vet tank kills spear ,kills next spear,and capture Izumo (size 1 city will not flip when it is size 2).

tanks : 79

MapStat :

Jap Acq Need Diff
tiles 1273 354 -10
pop 797 286 -8

persia
tiles 635 992 -12
pop 538 545 -3

eng
tiles 481 1146 +22
pop 288 795 +8

end turn 4

IBT : We kill 1 mech, maybe 2. Might have lost 1 tank

turn 5

York Riots
4 pollutions

New York tank ->tank
Sirp Orange tank ->tank
Miami tank -> tank
dark Blue tank -> tank
Baltimore tank-> tank
Rheims tank -> tank
Denver tank -> tank
Cincinatti tank -> tank

We lose about 4 to 5 tanks, and Capture Warwick. Another airport, that will help land troops near the front.

I have moved a settler to open area between york, warwick and allenghy, he has a cav and a tank with him. Settle next turn to claim tiles.

HaHa = a spy in persia! England failed.
They have 42 tank, AND 139 MECH INF. 7 tach nukes, a lot of boats and quite a few jets.More imprtantly, they are building 6 space parts.

tanks : 80

MapStat :

Jap Acq Need Diff
tiles 1295 332 -22 Good!!
pop 826 251 -35 Good!!

persia
tiles 639 988 -4
pop 539 538 -7

eng
tiles 434 1193 +47
pop 250 827 +32


TOTAL mapstat gains :
Tiles 1237 need 390 to 1295 need 332
Pop 741 need 342 to 826 need 251

Guys, this might just be do-able. Englands remaining pop no longer enough, but our workers and settlers can handle that. Englands 434 tiles are enough to win, and there are also 71 unclaimed tiles!

My net turn lost 4 tanks, but I gained us 6 cities. We have a 22 Art, 15 tank, 1 army and 2 cav SoD within striking distance of London - just make sure that you keep enough defence for those wonderful artillery!!
Also 5 tanks near Hastings , and 2 that you can probably take from York on this turn, if you want. I found the "smaller" towns had mayeb 2 mech inf, maybe 1, then a tank, and spear or pikemen.
There are 16 tank, 2 art and an Inf NE of Warwick, on their way to Canterbury.

If we can keep rolling the english like this, we *might* win in the next 20 turns or so, at a guess - I hope that persia won't get space by then. We still have 14 turns on MPP, and 17 turns on lux deal. Oh - and persia are still commie.

Looks like I managed not to fumble the ball! Now the pass... http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/CTR1--_1500_AD.SAV
 
Oh - England were in Republic. Sorry - forgot to add that.

@space... it was a difficult choice, but I think we need the prod toget those tanks, to win this game. If you look at the kind of war weariness we had toward the end of the indian war, we are going to struggling to finish off Eng.

CiaO
 
I think we should be in Monarchy now. We need production and food. We don't need gold.

If we join slaves to cities do they count towards our pop?
Can we build settlers when mobilized?

Finally. Awesome job Wanderer. The English are finished. It's now a race to get their cities b4 the Persians do.
 
The persians have 2 cities to the north.

They have not moved their troops from our cintinent, btw.

You're probably right about cash, altho I realized I didn't try enough to place an agent in England. If we can, then tech stealing - we want mech inf, then to try and upgrade ??

Go to it Earp! We can win this thing!!
 
If we join slaves to cities do they count towards our pop?
Can we build settlers when mobilized?

Yes to both. Foreigners count the same as natives.
Workers and settlers are valid when mobilized.
 
Some thoughts on looking at the save:

Tech Situation:
Persia does NOT have Ecology yet! This means that the 6 pieces of the SS are from Space Flight, Superconductor, and either Satellites or The Laser (likely the former). Worst case scenario, the Persians are 9 turns from having all the techs they need. Best case scenario they still need to research Nuclear Power, the Laser, Ecology, and Synthetic Fibers, so conceivably 13-16 turns before they have all the techs (assuming they can research at 4 turns) ... if we're lucky, they'll research something useless like Recycling or Miniaturization in the interim as well.

Richmond and Cambridge are on their own island ... we may need to take them as well to get Domination. Looking at the Culture situation, it appears Persia is at about 75,000, and is more likely to space before 100k, but don't quote me on that.

Our inland lake has like 25-30 unclaimed tiles. We may want to rush cultural buildings around the lake (obviously only the ones that are being built).

Government: Stick with Republic as long as we can (and considering the number of luxes we have, that should be for the entire length of the war) ... the waste of Monarchy will hurt our builds too much.

Since it's going to take some time to get out of mobilization, we'll probably want to Settler-overrun the conquered areas so as to eliminate the need for Temples (who cares about overlapping tiles at this point in the game?) ... we're going to need more settlers.

Stop researching; it's useless at this point. Get cash to rush-build settlers (all on the southern continent, it's too risky to send them across the ocean) and the cultural buildings around our inland lake.

EDIT: Fixed a contradiction
 
0 - 1500 AD
Everything looks good. I airlift one more tank over and then hit enter.

1 - 1505 AD
Kyoto Tank --> Tank
Boston Tank --> Tank
Osaka Infantry --> Tank
Dark-Green Tank --> Tank
Nagasaki Aqueduct --> Airport
Dark Chocolate Tank --> Tank
Detroit Tank --> Tank
Edo Tank --> Tank
Satsuma Tank --> Tank
Memphis Tank --> Tank
Bizen flips to the Persians :(
Found Omi
Move troops and bombard London

2 - 1510 AD
San Francisco Tank --> Tank
Dark Blue Tank --> Tank
St. Louis Tank --> Tank
Dark Humour Tank --> Tank
Kagoshima Tank --> Tank
We capture Canterbury
Found Echigo
We capture Hastings

3 - 1515 AD
Kyoto Tank --> Tank
Allegheny flips back to the English
Osaka Tank --> Tank
Sirp-Orange Tank --> Tank
Tokyo Marketplace --> Barracks
Dark Chocolate Tank --> Tank
We finish the Military Academy
New Orleans MA --> Army
Edo Tank --> Tank
Satsuma Tank --> Tank
Rheims Tank --> Tank
Memphis Tank --> Tank
Suo Cathedral --> Barracks
We capture London
We defeat a tank near Liverpool and a great leader Fujiwara is created.
Fujiwara creates a Tank Army
Found Kozuke
Found Sado
Found New Kyoto

4 - 1520 AD
Hastings flips back to the English
We complete Battlefield Medicine
Seattle BM --> Tank
San Francisco --> Tank
Miami Tank --> Tank
Dark-Green Tank --> Tank
Dark Blue Tank --> Tank
Besacon Cathedral --> Harbor
Detroit Tank --> Tank
Baltimore Tank --> Tank
The people expand our palace
Found New Osaka
We capture Brighton
We re-capture Hastings
We re-capture Allegheny
We capture Liverpool

5 - 1525 AD
Kyoto Tank --> Tank
New York Tank --> Tank
Boston Tank --> Tank
Philadelphia Tank --> Tank
Osaka Tank --> Tank
Dark Chocolate Tank --> Tank
Edo Tank --> Tank
Satsuma Tank --> Tank
Kagoshima Tank --> Tank
Denver Tank --> Tank
Memphis Tank --> Tank
We capture Nottingham, but in the process lose our 12/12 Tank army to a 3/4 Mech Infantry.
We generate the Great Leader Tojo during the battle for Nottingham. Tojo creates another tank army.

England is counter-attacking with Longbows. They are down to nine cities. We will be racing against Persia to take the last few cities. Persia has already taken four English cities.

We are producing more tanks than we can airlift each turn. I am using transports to move the tanks next to the coast of the southern continent and then unloading them the same turn. The tanks are never left exposed on the ships. I haven't lost a transport to the English yet.

The artillery stack east of Nottingham should be moved one square further east to be in range of both Dover and Coventry. I would try to take Dover first to prevent the Persians from stealing it from us.

The stack of tanks south of Newcastle will probably not be enough to take the city. We have a large stack of artillery that was used to pound Nottingham last turn that should be moved to soften up Newcastle before the assault.

MapStat
1396 tiles - 231 to limit
899 pop - 145 to limit
England has 252 tiles and there are 101 unclaimed tiles. It is going to be close and I think we may have to eventually declare on Persia to reach the limit.

We have 69 native workers and about 50 foreign workers. I do not think we will have a problem reaching the pop limit.

Persia is still working on the same six Spaceship parts.

The SAVE
 
So, that's 100 tiles gained with 230 left to go. We could probably get another 50 tiles by settling the unclaimed land with a dozen settlers.

We still have 60 tanks. This is great. I think the rate of attrition will be lower now. So If we can end the war with maybe 50 tanks in ten turns, de-mobilise, rush a few temples, wait a couple of turns to get a few tanks on home soil then :hammer: Persia 'till the finish.

For the first time I feel we have the upper hand, and the histograph says so too.

Nicely done Earp. :goodjob:
 
ChrTh:

The game may well finish on my turns. Space and I have been talking and we think it would be great if you were to play the winning turns. If you like I could swap with you.

What do you think?
 
@m-b,

Nah, this is a team effort, and if I finish it off on my turns, fine, if I don't no biggie. I'm going to try to play tonight; if I can't, I'll swap with you just so we can keep it moving.
 
It's your call. Best of luck ChrTh and I hope you can finish it. :)
 
Is someone able to post a screenshot of the war zone? I'd like to study it before I play (and I don't have the game at work to look at)
 
I was going to post a screenshot of the warzone last night and forgot.

Most of our artillery is under the stack near London. The rest of our artillery is east of Nottingham and should be moved one square further east to be in range of both Dover and Coventry. I think I may left them on goto.

I have been airlifting re-inforcements into London. 8 tanks should be ready next turn. We also have tanks healing in cities in the back lines.

ctr1_WM_1525AD.jpg


ctr1_army_1525AD.jpg
 
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