ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Do we have any transports that can get over near Reading within 3 turns?
CTR1 -- Jump Without Looking (the Deity Virgin Sacrifice)
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ChrTh
Happy Yule!
mad-bax:
Go ahead and take it. I'm not going to be able to play tonight.
You might want to rush a transport/destroyer on the west coast and load up some tanks to bring to the British Isle, but it's your call
Go ahead and take it. I'm not going to be able to play tonight.
You might want to rush a transport/destroyer on the west coast and load up some tanks to bring to the British Isle, but it's your call
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Got it!
I hope I can do enough so you can win the game on your turn ChrTh. It feels like quite a responsibility.
From Earps post it looks like the English have no tanks to speak of so I think I will only airlift. Any excess units can stay on the homeland in case we need to liberate the Persian cities on our continent. I'm also going to join in the native workers immediately to save us 60 gpt. I'll keep 30 or so slaves for pollution control for now. I am also going to raze the next English city I capture. If it looks as if the English are going to be wiped out it may be necessary to gift them a safe city that the Persians can't get at.
I'll try to play during the day, but don't expect a post till this evening (GMT)
I hope I can do enough so you can win the game on your turn ChrTh. It feels like quite a responsibility.
From Earps post it looks like the English have no tanks to speak of so I think I will only airlift. Any excess units can stay on the homeland in case we need to liberate the Persian cities on our continent. I'm also going to join in the native workers immediately to save us 60 gpt. I'll keep 30 or so slaves for pollution control for now. I am also going to raze the next English city I capture. If it looks as if the English are going to be wiped out it may be necessary to gift them a safe city that the Persians can't get at.
I'll try to play during the day, but don't expect a post till this evening (GMT)
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Well, this was not as effective a set of turns as I would have liked. But here goes anyway.
Turnlog
1525AD: Pre-turn.
Plant spy in England.
They have 1 tank and 27 Mech Inf.
Settle a couple of new towns.
IBT:
Allegheny flips to the English.
Persians capture Reading.
1530:
Spent an hour MMing and joining workers. Running out of cities that can accomodate the population.
Retook Allegheny and razed it.
Refounded new city in place.
IBT:
War weariness steps up a gear. Hire a lot of entertainers.
1535AD:
Capture Newcastle. It was messy.
Capture Dover. Not Messy
Capture Oxford. Very Messy with no arty.
IBT:
No Losses. But it is a real race up the peninsula against Persia. I may have to take some risks to claim the cities.
1540AD:
Spent some money rushing some culture and settlers.
Capture Coventry. It was messy as 80% of arty failed.
Capture Exeter, losing a tank army.
Ran out of places to rush settlers from. But I can get some next turn.
England are down to 6 mech inf. We on the other hand have 65 tanks. I quite like the odds.
There are enough unclaimed tiles right now for us to reach the domination limit.
IBT:
England land 20% of their Mech inf on our mainland.
Nottingham flips to the English
1545AD:
Recapture Nottingham
Started a Jungle chop where it can't be worked
Persia capture Leeds
We capture Norwich.
Thats it. No more English cities to take. I make straight peace so we can declare if we need to retake flips.
Monster round of MMing. Firing lots of clowns, changing builds to temples etc.
Assemble most of our troops on the mountain next to nottingham.
IBT:
Hastings flips. I knew we would lose some.
1550AD:
Joined in some workers, founded a few towns, tidied up a bit.
We have 1525 tiles with 102 tiles to the limit.
We have 1039 pop with 46 to the limit.
There are precisely 150 tiles unclaimed.
We have 34 workers and 16 slaves on pollution control.
The flipped city (Hastings), accounts for 16 tiles.
We have 80 tanks and 40 Arty.
We have 950g and are making 998gpt.
Persia is still at war with England.
So. What now?
Here is the land grab situation.
And here is what I sincerely hope is the final <<save>>.
Turnlog
1525AD: Pre-turn.
Plant spy in England.
They have 1 tank and 27 Mech Inf.
Settle a couple of new towns.
IBT:
Allegheny flips to the English.
Persians capture Reading.
1530:
Spent an hour MMing and joining workers. Running out of cities that can accomodate the population.
Retook Allegheny and razed it.
Refounded new city in place.
IBT:
War weariness steps up a gear. Hire a lot of entertainers.
1535AD:
Capture Newcastle. It was messy.
Capture Dover. Not Messy
Capture Oxford. Very Messy with no arty.
IBT:
No Losses. But it is a real race up the peninsula against Persia. I may have to take some risks to claim the cities.
1540AD:
Spent some money rushing some culture and settlers.
Capture Coventry. It was messy as 80% of arty failed.
Capture Exeter, losing a tank army.
Ran out of places to rush settlers from. But I can get some next turn.
England are down to 6 mech inf. We on the other hand have 65 tanks. I quite like the odds.
There are enough unclaimed tiles right now for us to reach the domination limit.
IBT:
England land 20% of their Mech inf on our mainland.
Nottingham flips to the English
1545AD:
Recapture Nottingham
Started a Jungle chop where it can't be worked
Persia capture Leeds
We capture Norwich.
Thats it. No more English cities to take. I make straight peace so we can declare if we need to retake flips.
Monster round of MMing. Firing lots of clowns, changing builds to temples etc.
Assemble most of our troops on the mountain next to nottingham.
IBT:
Hastings flips. I knew we would lose some.
1550AD:
Joined in some workers, founded a few towns, tidied up a bit.
We have 1525 tiles with 102 tiles to the limit.
We have 1039 pop with 46 to the limit.
There are precisely 150 tiles unclaimed.
We have 34 workers and 16 slaves on pollution control.
The flipped city (Hastings), accounts for 16 tiles.
We have 80 tanks and 40 Arty.
We have 950g and are making 998gpt.
Persia is still at war with England.
So. What now?
Here is the land grab situation.
And here is what I sincerely hope is the final <<save>>.
All I'll say at this moment is:
I'll look at the save when I get home.
edit: Maybe Hastings can be England's token city, if Persia manages to get the wee island.
I'll look at the save when I get home.
edit: Maybe Hastings can be England's token city, if Persia manages to get the wee island.
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Well, first things first: any tile that has no cultural boundaries needs a city asap ... I see at least 1, maybe 2.
Nothing we can do about Hastings, I fear. We may want to starve our formerly british cities (worker 'em to almost death)
EDIT: Or can we? I wonder if we could propaganda them?
Nothing we can do about Hastings, I fear. We may want to starve our formerly british cities (worker 'em to almost death)
EDIT: Or can we? I wonder if we could propaganda them?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
@space: if you can play today, go ahead. The earliest I can get it is Friday night, and possibly not even then.
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Thanks Space. 
Here is a suggested dot map for settlers. Obviously some of these sites will annoy the Persians. But I think if you settle all the sites and retake Hastings on the same turn you will be virtually there.
You may want to rethink the temple builds. Libraries will give cultural expansion quicker. So if you rush some of them before going to the next turn the expansion will take place in 4 turns, giving you the opportunity to win the game on your last turn ChrTh.
Good luck mate. History awaits you
Here is a suggested dot map for settlers. Obviously some of these sites will annoy the Persians. But I think if you settle all the sites and retake Hastings on the same turn you will be virtually there.
You may want to rethink the temple builds. Libraries will give cultural expansion quicker. So if you rush some of them before going to the next turn the expansion will take place in 4 turns, giving you the opportunity to win the game on your last turn ChrTh.
Good luck mate. History awaits you
@ChrTh: No, I can't play tonight but I can tomorrow. But are you sure that you don't want to play next? There may be not that many turns left in it after all that good work by the guys...
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
@space: that's ok, I'd rather wait until I had the opportunity to give it my full attention, and that's not going to happen for a couple days. If you finish it, great! If not, I'll give it a whirl
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I took straight peace. Which means there is no 20 turn deal. This was on purpose so that we could declare to take any flips back plus any from the Persians that are required. If you moved the artillery stack up to the northeastern red spot you could take all the Persian cities up there in 1 turn.
If it were me I would do the following.
Pre-turn
1. Rush 4 or 5 libraries and half a dozen settlers.
Turn 1
1. Locate the settlers on the red spots.
2. Move all the arty to the northeastern red spot.
3. Move 5 tanks outside Hastings.
4. Move 30 tanks to the Northeastern red spot.
5. Move troops on our mainland to defend the cities around the Persian cities.
Turn 2
1. Declare war on England and take Hastings back
2. Declare war on Persia and take the Northeastern Cities
Turn 3
Watch the Dan Quail screen tell us we are magnificent
Ooh. Looks like it's you Space. No pressure
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
@m-b:
I'm pretty sure that a Peace Treaty has an initial 20-turn deal (because I've seen AI 'renew' it) ... but I don't think we really care about diplomacy at this point.
I would wait and see if Persia is able to take the island. If so, conquer Hastings to finish off the British.
I'm pretty sure that a Peace Treaty has an initial 20-turn deal (because I've seen AI 'renew' it) ... but I don't think we really care about diplomacy at this point.
I would wait and see if Persia is able to take the island. If so, conquer Hastings to finish off the British.
@ChrTh: wouldn't that scenario get the Persians their 100k culture victory?
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
I don't think so--but don't quote me! When I last looked at the numbers, it appeared Persia was around 75K ... I guess it depends on whether or not the Persians make peace with the English; I suspect that if they take the island, they'll go after Hastings next anyway.
Don't take Hastings yet; I would wait and see. Rush cultural improvements where possible. War with Persia may be inevitable (and scary).
ChrTh
Happy Yule!
Won't be an issue for Persia, our culture is weak (less than 30k) ... yet we're religious. D'oh!
pre-turn:
Looking for extra tiles by culture growth:
Switch core cities to infantries, just in case we need to go to war against Persia.
We can't hurry as many settlers as would be needed to settle all the red dot in the first turn.
Resisters keep us from hurrying in the captured cities.
ChrTh may well get to this game after all.
New Calcutta has no temple yet, so switch to Temple, no shields in the bin, will wait 1 turn.
Bengal hurry lib for 205g.
Switch Besancon to library.
Change St. Louis to Harbor.
Oil Springs hurry Temple for 72g.
Hurry settler in St. Regis for 36g.
Hurry temple in Brighton for 96g.
Hurry temple in New Nagasaki for 112g.
Hurry Settler in Sado for 92g.
Hurry Settler in Omi for 84g.
Switch Izumo form settler to temple, 'cos it won't grow beyond size 2 without a harbor.
Hurry Temple in Centralia for 80g.
Hurry settler in Satsuma for 104g.
We have an MPP with Persia so if the English manage to attack Persia we're at war again
Press enter.
IT:
English Mech Inf is attacked by Persian Tank.
London Temple -> Settler
New Satsuma Settler -> Worker
Oil Springs Temple -> Harbor
St. Regis Settler -> Lib
Centralia Templ -> Worker
Bengal Lib -> Wealth
St. Louis Harbor -> Lib
Brighton Temple -> Wealth
Kagoshima Tank -> Tank
Omi Settler -> Wealth
Sado Settler -> Wealth
New Nagasaki Temple -> Wealth
1555AD - turn 1
Sell our TM to Persia for his TM + 9g.
Sell our TM to England for their TM + 16g.
Found New Ise, near Reading, start Temple.
Move 3 settlers to respective sites.
Hurry Aqueduct in Cattaraugus for 68g.
Block border to Hastings to slow down Persian troops.
Move the stack to New Hakodate.
New Toyama founded.
Hurry Cathedral in New Bombay for 196g.
Hurry settler in Grand River for 108g.
Hurry settler in Mauch Chunk for 104g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 91 to limit, Pop 48 to limit... (unclaimed 139 tiles).
IT:
Persia wants Wines as a gift... well interesting.
We could war on Persia if we prepare and bring in our defenses, we can't at this stage and they will be able to conquer cities on our main land now, I don't risk it. If we declare them in the near future we'll be prepared. So grudgingly I give in. Don't hate me for that.
The english attack Persia and we're at war once again, rioting all over the place.
Grand River Settler -> Sword
Catteraugus 'duct -> wealth
Mauch Chunk Settler -> Sword
New Bombay Cathedral -> Lib
1560AD - turn 2
Capture Hastings, it was defended by 1 rifle. There was a transport moving in there but obviously it was empty, start Temple.
New Fukushima founded -> Temple
New Suo founded, starts Temple
Spend a lot of time with the lux slider and the cities, I had hoped England would want peace right away but they don't.
When I'm finally satisfied with the happiness vs gold situation I press enter.
IT:
Persia removes the troops from our land.
Kyoto Tank -> Tank
Boston settler -> Tank
Coventry flips back to the English, we lose 2 Tanks.
Seattle Tank -> Tank
Dark Blue Inf -> Tank
Dark Chocolate Inf -> Tank
New Orleans Tank -> Tank
Edo Inf -> Tank
Cincinatti Tank -> Tank
1565AD - turn 3
New Echizen founded -> Temple
New Bizen founded -> Temple
Recapture Coventry -> Temple
New Izumi founded.
Hurry Temple in New Ise for 112g.
Hurry Temple in New Fukushima for 112g.
Hurry Temple in New Suo for 116g.
Hurry Temple in Hastings for 116g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 44 to limit, Pop 43 to limit... (unclaimed 111 tiles).
Once more check the happiness stituation, WW has let of a bit, press enter.
IT:
New York Settler -> Tank
Philly Tank -> Tank
Osaka Inf -> Art
San Fran Tank -> Tank
Sirp Orange Tank -> Tank
Miami Tank -> Tank
Newcastle flips, we lose a Tank.
Rheims Tank -> Tank
Memphis Inf -> Tank
Izumi Tample -> Wealth
New Ise Temple -> Lib
1570AD - turn 4
Retake Newcastle
Hurry Temple in New Bizen for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Echizen for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Sapporo for 104g.
Hurry Temple in New Yokohama for 96g.
Hurry Temple in Izumo for 60g.
Hurry Lib in Nagasaki for 124g.
Hurry Settler in Washington for 44g.
Hurry Settler in Karachi for 26g.
Found New Omi -> Temple
Check Mapstat: Tiles 36 to limit, Pop 51 to limit... (unclaimed 108 tiles).
IT:
Persia wants to renew the MPP? Ok, if it buys us some more turns, they are still busy with those same
6 SSS parts.
England lands 1 Tank
Washington Settler -> Wealth
Seattle Tank -> Tank
Karachi Settler -> Wealth
Dark Green Tank -> Tank
Nagasaki Lib -> Tank
Dark Chocolate Tank -> Tank
Detroit Tank -> Tank
New Orleans Tank -> Tank
Edo Tank -> Tank
Kagoshima Tank -> Tank
Izumo Temple -> Harbor
New Yokohama Temple -> Harbor
New Sapporo Temple -> Harbor
New Echigo founded -> Temple
Exeter riots, gets taxman
Cattarauchus riots, gets a clown
1575AD - turn 5
Kill the English Tank.
Hurry Temple in New Omi for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Nagoya for 90g.
Hurry Temple in New Hakodate for 100g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 21 to limit, Pop 52 to limit... (unclaimed 97 tiles).
Well I don't think we need to go after the Persians unless we are in a hurry, The Persians still haven't finished those 6 parts, and a lot of coastal cities will expand borders in the next 1-5 turns.
But it's all up to you now ChrTh.
The save I'll post a little later gotta go now.
Looking for extra tiles by culture growth:
Switch core cities to infantries, just in case we need to go to war against Persia.
We can't hurry as many settlers as would be needed to settle all the red dot in the first turn.
Resisters keep us from hurrying in the captured cities.
ChrTh may well get to this game after all
.New Calcutta has no temple yet, so switch to Temple, no shields in the bin, will wait 1 turn.
Bengal hurry lib for 205g.
Switch Besancon to library.
Change St. Louis to Harbor.
Oil Springs hurry Temple for 72g.
Hurry settler in St. Regis for 36g.
Hurry temple in Brighton for 96g.
Hurry temple in New Nagasaki for 112g.
Hurry Settler in Sado for 92g.
Hurry Settler in Omi for 84g.
Switch Izumo form settler to temple, 'cos it won't grow beyond size 2 without a harbor.
Hurry Temple in Centralia for 80g.
Hurry settler in Satsuma for 104g.
We have an MPP with Persia so if the English manage to attack Persia we're at war again
Press enter.
IT:
English Mech Inf is attacked by Persian Tank.
London Temple -> Settler
New Satsuma Settler -> Worker
Oil Springs Temple -> Harbor
St. Regis Settler -> Lib
Centralia Templ -> Worker
Bengal Lib -> Wealth
St. Louis Harbor -> Lib
Brighton Temple -> Wealth
Kagoshima Tank -> Tank
Omi Settler -> Wealth
Sado Settler -> Wealth
New Nagasaki Temple -> Wealth
1555AD - turn 1
Sell our TM to Persia for his TM + 9g.
Sell our TM to England for their TM + 16g.
Found New Ise, near Reading, start Temple.
Move 3 settlers to respective sites.
Hurry Aqueduct in Cattaraugus for 68g.
Block border to Hastings to slow down Persian troops.
Move the stack to New Hakodate.
New Toyama founded.
Hurry Cathedral in New Bombay for 196g.
Hurry settler in Grand River for 108g.
Hurry settler in Mauch Chunk for 104g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 91 to limit, Pop 48 to limit... (unclaimed 139 tiles).
IT:
Persia wants Wines as a gift... well interesting.
We could war on Persia if we prepare and bring in our defenses, we can't at this stage and they will be able to conquer cities on our main land now, I don't risk it. If we declare them in the near future we'll be prepared. So grudgingly I give in. Don't hate me for that.
The english attack Persia and we're at war once again, rioting all over the place.
Grand River Settler -> Sword
Catteraugus 'duct -> wealth
Mauch Chunk Settler -> Sword
New Bombay Cathedral -> Lib
1560AD - turn 2
Capture Hastings, it was defended by 1 rifle. There was a transport moving in there but obviously it was empty, start Temple.
New Fukushima founded -> Temple
New Suo founded, starts Temple
Spend a lot of time with the lux slider and the cities, I had hoped England would want peace right away but they don't.
When I'm finally satisfied with the happiness vs gold situation I press enter.
IT:
Persia removes the troops from our land.
Kyoto Tank -> Tank
Boston settler -> Tank
Coventry flips back to the English, we lose 2 Tanks.
Seattle Tank -> Tank
Dark Blue Inf -> Tank
Dark Chocolate Inf -> Tank
New Orleans Tank -> Tank
Edo Inf -> Tank
Cincinatti Tank -> Tank
1565AD - turn 3
New Echizen founded -> Temple
New Bizen founded -> Temple
Recapture Coventry -> Temple
New Izumi founded.
Hurry Temple in New Ise for 112g.
Hurry Temple in New Fukushima for 112g.
Hurry Temple in New Suo for 116g.
Hurry Temple in Hastings for 116g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 44 to limit, Pop 43 to limit... (unclaimed 111 tiles).
Once more check the happiness stituation, WW has let of a bit, press enter.
IT:
New York Settler -> Tank
Philly Tank -> Tank
Osaka Inf -> Art
San Fran Tank -> Tank
Sirp Orange Tank -> Tank
Miami Tank -> Tank
Newcastle flips, we lose a Tank.
Rheims Tank -> Tank
Memphis Inf -> Tank
Izumi Tample -> Wealth
New Ise Temple -> Lib
1570AD - turn 4
Retake Newcastle
Hurry Temple in New Bizen for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Echizen for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Sapporo for 104g.
Hurry Temple in New Yokohama for 96g.
Hurry Temple in Izumo for 60g.
Hurry Lib in Nagasaki for 124g.
Hurry Settler in Washington for 44g.
Hurry Settler in Karachi for 26g.
Found New Omi -> Temple
Check Mapstat: Tiles 36 to limit, Pop 51 to limit... (unclaimed 108 tiles).
IT:
Persia wants to renew the MPP? Ok, if it buys us some more turns, they are still busy with those same
6 SSS parts.
England lands 1 Tank
Washington Settler -> Wealth
Seattle Tank -> Tank
Karachi Settler -> Wealth
Dark Green Tank -> Tank
Nagasaki Lib -> Tank
Dark Chocolate Tank -> Tank
Detroit Tank -> Tank
New Orleans Tank -> Tank
Edo Tank -> Tank
Kagoshima Tank -> Tank
Izumo Temple -> Harbor
New Yokohama Temple -> Harbor
New Sapporo Temple -> Harbor
New Echigo founded -> Temple
Exeter riots, gets taxman
Cattarauchus riots, gets a clown
1575AD - turn 5
Kill the English Tank.
Hurry Temple in New Omi for 116g.
Hurry Temple in New Nagoya for 90g.
Hurry Temple in New Hakodate for 100g.
Check Mapstat: Tiles 21 to limit, Pop 52 to limit... (unclaimed 97 tiles).
Well I don't think we need to go after the Persians unless we are in a hurry, The Persians still haven't finished those 6 parts, and a lot of coastal cities will expand borders in the next 1-5 turns.
But it's all up to you now ChrTh.
The save I'll post a little later gotta go now.
Is this the last save then...?
I realized belatedly I should've move a Transport down south. Eventhough its still dangerous in those waters I should've left the option open, sorry
.
Meanwhile I think it's good to keep the English in the game as long as possible, as both a target and a culture counterbalance for the Persians.
I realized belatedly I should've move a Transport down south. Eventhough its still dangerous in those waters I should've left the option open, sorry
.Meanwhile I think it's good to keep the English in the game as long as possible, as both a target and a culture counterbalance for the Persians.
