CTR1 -- Jump Without Looking (the Deity Virgin Sacrifice)

[ChrTh]

Ok, I'll play tonight! 21 tiles, huh? I think I can pull this off ...

How are we on pop?

 

[Earp]

How many workers do we have? Can we get some of the 52 required pop from joining workers?

 

[mad-bax]

You don't have enough workers. Rush Aqueducts and hospitals, irrigate everything around small cities (they grow faster) Make sure non of your workers are going to be occupied on your last but one turn, and join all workers on your last but one turn (or after the land limit is reached).

Good luck, and post the victory screen.

 

[ChrTh]

Aque/Hosp growth may be slow. It may be quicker to pop off a worker from any size 6/12/stuck city and join it to a city that won't grow for more than a couple turns. I'll have to analyze.

 

[a space oddity]

...and there are 2 settlers waiting on the spot to be turned into cities, they'll grow fast too.

 

[mad-bax]

Originally posted by ChrTh
Aque/Hosp growth may be slow. It may be quicker to pop off a worker from any size 6/12/stuck city and join it to a city that won't grow for more than a couple turns. I'll have to analyze.

Very good idea. Try to keep a lid on pollution in our mainland too.

BTW Space. Just in case you didn't get the message - great turns

 

[Earp]

I am not sure how to post a table, but here is a list of our cities with 5+ fpt(from MapStat). I think we should produce workers from our smaller cities with high fpt. They have smaller food boxes and regenerate the pop faster. We want to add these workers to large cities with lower fpt, but enough fpt to support the increased pop. Does that make sense?

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  Mauch Chunk - pop 7 - 14 fpt
  Nara - pop 12 - 14 fpt
  Boston - pop 27 - 13 fpt
  Karachi - pop 10 - 12 fpt
  Washington - pop 10 - 11 fpt
  New York - pop 16 - 11 fpt
  Tokyo - pop 12 - 10 fpt
  Chittagong - pop 17 - 10 fpt
  Chicago - pop 12 - 9 fpt
  Calcutta - pop 19 - 9 fpt
  Cincinnati - pop 21 - 9 fpt
  New Edo - pop 5 - 8 fpt
  New Calcutta - pop 7 - 8 fpt
  Suo - pop 12 - 8 fpt
  York - pop 13 - 8 fpt
  Seattle - pop 21 - 8 fpt
  Baltimore - pop 21 - 8 fpt
  Echizen - pop 6 - 7 fpt
  Miami - pop 23 - 7 fpt
  New Yokohama - pop 2 - 6 fpt
  New Nara - pop 4 - 6 fpt
  New Izumo - pop 4 - 6 fpt
  Matsuyama - pop 6 - 6 fpt
  Nagoya - pop 7 - 6 fpt
  Niagara Falls - pop 8 - 6 fpt
  Jaipur - pop 11 - 6 fpt
  New Delhi - pop 11 - 6 fpt
  Sirp-Orange - pop 15 - 6 fpt
  New Kyoto - pop 3 - 5 fpt
  Grand River - pop 4 - 5 fpt
  New Kagoshima - pop 5 - 5 fpt
  Yokohama - pop 6 - 5 fpt
  Sapporo - pop 6 - 5 fpt
  Tonawanda - pop 7 - 5 fpt
  Paris - pop 11 - 5 fpt
  Dark Blue - pop 15 - 5 fpt
  Rheims - pop 17 - 5 fpt
  St. Louis - pop 20 - 5 fpt

 

[ChrTh]

Yes, it makes sense however, if we get them into a 'starvation' mode, that's ok--as long as they have enough food in the food box to last them until the end of the game.

 

[ChrTh]

Ummmm...

F!#$@!

 

[ChrTh]

Turn 0 -- 1575 AD

Could this be the end?!?

Let's find out...

You know, we may the first game ever to have to worry more about Pop than Land for a Domination win ...

I change some builds to Workers and rush a few temples. I think England is down to one city and thus doomed.

I hit enter, and hope Persia doesn't win a Cultural Victory ...

IT: Persians wipe out the English ... well, at least we don't need to worry about flips any more

Turn 1 -- 1580 AD
We Love the Shogun Day Celebrated Everywhere!

DAMMIT, New Lahore flips :grr:


I realize I don't have Mapstat installed on this PC ... I go and download it ...

Tiles to Limit: 30. Pop to Limit: 49 Dammit, losing New Lahore cost us ...

Persian borders had expanded, so one Settler couldn't settle


End of turn: Tiles 27, Pop 47

IT:
PERSIANS (hereafter known as THE F!ing Persians) DECLARE WAR

We lose Ise
We lose Yokohama
They raze New Echizen
We lose New Delhi
We lose Hakodate
We lose some workers and take some bombardment damage


Tiles at beginning of Turn 2 1585 AD:
83 tiles to Dom
43 pop to Dom


I'm going to need to spend some time working on this ... I'll continue my turns later

 

[a space oddity]

Yes, that always was a danger. Sorry it had to happen to you, I know how you feel (those %$&, backstabbing Indians) but in the end that gave us a chance.

I've build some infs during my turns, use all defense you have on our continent and move NW leave some cities empty, we're railroaded all over so move them where they're needed (I'm sure you know all this already...). The number of Persian units should be limited in the end, they could not have built much in those cities.
In the southren continent you should have no trouble taking the Persian cities, the stack is still there. It's in a new city in the east(not on the Perisan border, luckily). I think you can still do it

Good luck, and feel free to discuss options.

 

[Earp]

Considering that we need to double Persia's pop to get to 66%, capturing Persian cities should get us to the domination limit very quickly. Thier pop decreases as ours increases. Of course, capturing Persian cities is easier said than done. Good luck. I think Xerxes is just trying to delay the inevitable.

 

[ChrTh]

Analysis of the situation:

We have 87 tanks, 42 artillery, and 74 infantry
Persia has 40 tanks, 23 artillery, 175 mech infantry, 31 cruise missiles, 11 tactical nukes, 6 icbms, 13 destroyers, and 29 battleships ... oh, and 3 immortals

If we could somehow take a net of 10-11 cities between our turn and Persia's turn, we probably would win by domination at that point. There are 5 vulnerable cities in the formerly British area (6? -- Reading may be vulnerable). There is a small stack (11 units) blocking the way to Leeds and Birmingham, so I think we need to worry more about holding Norwich and New Sapporo.

That brings us over to our continent. We would need to take a bunch over here as well; the problem is, the bulk of our forces are over on the Southern continent.

Can it be done? Well...

BUT, since this is a team game, I've decided to do the following:

Open the game up to the team. ALL of us should play at least 5 turns to see if we can win. Whoever does the best (i.e. pulls off the victory)--we'll take his or her game as the main one!

So, who wants to beat the Persians? I'll have my results up later today.

 

[a space oddity]

Very smart move , I like it!

edit: ... but it feels a bit like cheating too..

 

[ChrTh]

Originally posted by a space oddity


edit: ... but it feels a bit like cheating too..

Not really. The point of this game was to take a bunch of Deity newbies and make 'em Deity oldbies. Some of us are already at this point (having played GOTM), but in the end, I didn't want one player to be the difference between victory and defeat. Well, now more than ever, that is the case.

Besides, this is a situation everyone who plays Deity gets into; why should I be the only one who gets experience from it?

Is that enough rationalization?

 

[a space oddity]

Fine by me, I've played them. 't Was less then 5... The result? That'll have to wait until everyone is done.

 

[ChrTh]

Originally posted by a space oddity
Fine by me, I've played them. 't Was less then 5... The result? That'll have to wait until everyone is done.

The ... suspense ... is ... killing ... me ...

I'm still formulating my plan

 

[a space oddity]

The sooner you all play the sooner you'll know... (hint, hint).
One thing I'd like to add, that there's an empty army in one of the cities on the home continent. BTW I thought you'd already played ChrTh, that took away a lot of the pressure..

 

[mad-bax]

Space: Now you've played, look at the autosave before the end with Apollo.

This is a succession game. Everyone can play this set as much as they like. The only person that matters is ChrTh. Don't bottle it. Just play it.

 

[Earp]

I played. Are we going to wait before posting how many turns it took and whether we won or not?