Timsup2nothin
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I don't consider applying a means test to be 'stopping SS'. I put money into the system. Call it forced loan or call it forced saving for retirement call it whatever, I did it. In practice that money went immediately back out to people who had put in before me. In theory me and everyone else my age will be able to draw out money based on what we put in, and the workers of that time will chip in to cover that.
Well, here's something you should know about people my age. In the eighties there was widespread recognition that Social Security was badly broken and was not going to work. People my age started paying into the system with a very low level of confidence that it would be able to do anything for us, ever. (shouldn't claim to be spokesman for a generation...let's add 'if we were paying the slightest attention to events') So if the system were changed and we got screwed it isn't like we didn't have every opportunity to see it coming.
Now, if that 'getting screwed' was in the form of a means test, I personally don't think it would be so bad. If whatever I've 'got coming' were distributed instead to people who actually need it I'm quite fine with that. I frankly don't understand why anyone wouldn't be. If you planned to live on social security, and you need it, great, take it. If you don't, don't. If your savings run out before your time, take it then.
Well, here's something you should know about people my age. In the eighties there was widespread recognition that Social Security was badly broken and was not going to work. People my age started paying into the system with a very low level of confidence that it would be able to do anything for us, ever. (shouldn't claim to be spokesman for a generation...let's add 'if we were paying the slightest attention to events') So if the system were changed and we got screwed it isn't like we didn't have every opportunity to see it coming.
Now, if that 'getting screwed' was in the form of a means test, I personally don't think it would be so bad. If whatever I've 'got coming' were distributed instead to people who actually need it I'm quite fine with that. I frankly don't understand why anyone wouldn't be. If you planned to live on social security, and you need it, great, take it. If you don't, don't. If your savings run out before your time, take it then.