Design: Civilizations

[Gladi]

I would say: Jungle was the LAST place where cities are built.

What about Empire of Kongo? I heard those guys had HUGE cities. And Khmer and Mayas and...

 

[Hian the Frog]

Gladi,

You are rigth. I said IN MY PLAY, cities are nearly always the last place were cities are built. Probably because of the lack of food, the illness, some of the various beasts that are living there. In fact, until you have "Survival" you could not build huge cities in jungle. IN THE GAME.

What do you think about a Lizardmen Civ ? (Read post above...)

Thx.

The Frog.

 

[woodelf]

I misread you at first as well Hian. Jungles are crap IMO. A Lizard civ would be awesome and they would most likely be able to appear since the Jungles are open longer than most terrain.

Maybe Kael will do a "Design a Civ" contest. Enter this one.

 

[Gladi]

Gladi,

You are rigth. I said IN MY PLAY, cities are nearly always the last place were cities are built. Probably because of the lack of food, the illness, some of the various beasts that are living there. In fact, until you have "Survival" you could not build huge cities in jungle. IN THE GAME.

What do you think about a Lizardmen Civ ? (Read post above...)

Thx.

The Frog.

Ah oopsie.

Well what have they done during Ice Age? Where would a jungle civilization be hiding? Do they have any other Whoa factor beside being jungle (oh Kurioartes right now don't have enough of it). But I am all for races that play very differantly.

Speaking of Ice Age? When did it end? Right now? Or could there be some script simulating last retreating ice sheets?

 

[Hian the Frog]

I misread you at first as well Hian. Jungles are crap IMO. A Lizard civ would be awesome and they would most likely be able to appear since the Jungles are open longer than most terrain.

Maybe Kael will do a "Design a Civ" contest. Enter this one.

Woodelf,

I hope that Kael create a "Design a Civ" contest . As an old Runequest and Rolemaster RPG player and gamemaster, i created a race of Lizardmen, semi-barbarian and mystic, looking for their god. I could try to translate you some of my ideas.

Because my english is not as good as i hope, can explain to me what means "Jungle are crap IMO" ?

As i don't really explain what i hope for a new Lizardmen Civ, i can't reply about your "awesome".

Meanwhile, even without Lizardmen , FfH2 is absolutely GREAT !

The Frog.

 

[Gladi]

Hian- Where are you from? Do you know what drek is? well drek is crap.

and IMO is "in my opinion".

And it means that jungles are bad- full of disease, no production way too little food...

 

[ChaoticWanderer]

well ice ages dont survive in all aprts of the world. maybe instead of a lizardman race a snakeman race that thrives in deserts and jungles yet does poorly in ice and tundra.

 

[woodelf]

Hian - like Gladi said. Without a civ that likes Jungle the Jungle itself is bad for everyone. A civ that thrived in the Jungle would make for even more fun.

Also, I just like lizards too.

 

[Hian the Frog]

Hian - like Gladi said. Without a civ that likes Jungle the Jungle itself is bad for everyone. A civ that thrived in the Jungle would make for even more fun.

Also, I just like lizards too.

Woodelf, Gladi,

First, i am from France. I lived just near the city of Nancy, near the German Frontiers.

Second. My Lizardmen would be THE civ that thrive in the jungle. For exemple, Lizardmen workers would be used as those of the elves but in the jungles: irrigate, build mines,.... without destroying the jungles. On the other side, malus may exist in grassland and plains. They could also receive a health bonus from their palace to compensate illness from jungle. And...many others things.

So , IMO a Lizardmen Civ linked with a "Jungle way of live" may be fun.

The Frog.

 

[Gladi]

Ah okay . So you should know drek then .
Third type of improvements? Some people will post entire pages of about such "bug"

Oh and Nancy is nice. It was the city where Frederick Palatinate lived out his days right?

 

[Hian the Frog]

Ah okay . So you should know drek then .
Third type of improvements? Some people will post entire pages of about such "bug"

Oh and Nancy is nice. It was the city where Frederick Palatinate lived out his days right?

Gladi,

I still doesn't understand "drek".
And Nancy was the city of Frederic. We just don't call him "Palatinate" in France. We give him his "number". I don't remember it. Nancy is also the city of a King of Poland and Duke of Lorraine, Stanislas Leczinsky.

The Frog.

 

[Gladi]

My vocabulary gives me several options, merde, langage, causerie.

And here I thought that whole world know drek.

And I visited only because of Frederich

 

[phoulishwan]

I still doesn't understand "drek".

Based on the rules we're not allowed to have a conversation in French. But crap = "merde" or "du chiez". I lived in Toulouse for 8 years in my high school days, I loved living in France. Great country.

The lizardman civ idea is really cool, their workers/druids could plant jungle instead of forests. Basically the civ should just have the jungle overlay penalties removed, have them act like forests for this civ. And forests would act like jungles with all the associated penalties etc...

 

[puck11b]

hmm, or perhaps the lack of jungle or forrests should act as jungle, so they have problems with plains, grassland, desert, etc

 

[loki1232]

I don't think that Kael will be a having a create a civ contest, for the reason that all of the magic spheres are filled. Lizardmen are most likely to appear as barbs and Doviello UU's.

 

[Hian the Frog]

Loki1232,

If kael doesn't want, there would be no lizardmen. This mod is his creation, so...we have to accept his choice.
Meanwhile, i still think that a specific Civ specialized in Jungles is not a bad idea. I don't know what he think about this idea....

The Frog.

 

[woodelf]

I really hate Jungle, but that's OT.

 

[Hian the Frog]

I really hate Jungle, but that's OT.

I also hate jungles, it's full of diseases, spiders, .... and Lizardmen ?

Again sorry for my poor english, what means "OT" ? I don't practice english for nearly 11 years, when i was in Bosnia/Serbia with the French, US and German troops.

The Frog

 

[Corlindale]

Again sorry for my poor english, what means "OT" ?

It means "Off-topic". I.E. talking about stuff that's not really meant to be talked about in that particular thread. Very common on internet forums.

 

[woodelf]

I also hate jungles, it's full of diseases, spiders, .... and Lizardmen ?

Again sorry for my poor english, what means "OT" ? I don't practice english for nearly 11 years, when i was in Bosnia/Serbia with the French, US and German troops.

The Frog

OT = Off Topic.

No need for apologies.

I think Lizardmen should find a place here. They don't need new spells or new content. But if a civ can't make use of Jungle I think we should remove it via a mapscript.