Swissempire
Poet Jester
I demand Affalon get the most screwed up nation for my wierd attempts to make all Native Americans Irish!
DisNES II "A Twist of Fate"
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JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Yay for awards! Yay for sort of First place!
Though to be fair, being handed France had little to do with my own ability (other than just being smart enough to stay out of the French war
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And yes Das, it was obvious you still had intent on the Indian ocean, and me and Iberia were prepared to fight you and Malaya for it when the time came.
What is this word on another NES by Dis?
Though to be fair, being handed France had little to do with my own ability (other than just being smart enough to stay out of the French war
).And yes Das, it was obvious you still had intent on the Indian ocean, and me and Iberia were prepared to fight you and Malaya for it when the time came.
What is this word on another NES by Dis?
Symphony D.
Deity
Most Screwed Up means most damaged or devastated, not weirdest.
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Ah the most screwed up nation...hmmm its a toughy, but I think the Ottomans have to win this one with their imploding economy and enemies on all sides. Sorry Symphony but Russia is drained, not screwed as it is now purified and determined 
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alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
OOC: Qing China didn't have a very good time alas... Invaded by two nations and spent the whole nes fighting the Ming to a minor defeat and a standstill with the Japanese *shakes head* 
Not a very productive nes at all and to boot, the players who STARTED the war both QUIT before the war ended!
When, if ever, do you plan to continue the nes?
Not a very productive nes at all and to boot, the players who STARTED the war both QUIT before the war ended!
When, if ever, do you plan to continue the nes?
Disenfrancised
Beep Beep
Can you people not read? it says just above the awards - in answer to your question; sometime in march, maybe.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
It was a rtherorical question since the answer was obviously there? 
Hooray! An award!
I'd like to think that my 65 divisions would have had at least some say in the outcome. And Bengal had a respectable 51 to contribute, too, and I think they'd have come down on our side because of their close relationship with Malaya.
I'd like to think that my 65 divisions would have had at least some say in the outcome.
And Bengal had a respectable 51 to contribute, too, and I think they'd have come down on our side because of their close relationship with Malaya.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
Anyone else see the irony of the Iberian Kingdom fighting their "orphaned" children Malaya?
JosefStalinator
Я буду снова здесь
Hooray! An award!
I'd like to think that my 65 divisions would have had at least some say in the outcome.
I have no Idea what you were doing the entire time I was colonizing India - I swear I devoted entire pages to countering a Gujarati counter-attack, but your constant state of warfare with others must have distracted you...
das
Regeneration In Process
Give me some credit please, I'm sure that my huge numbers, annoying economy-disrupting operations and the assorted rebels running around at least helped. Plus you were beginning to win in the end, though you probably would've fared far worse if not for me having to fight off a horde of rabid (I dare even say mad) pandas.
Well he did give you the luckiest player for that one, so I'm sure he had noticed.
Yay me!
Its becoming a tendency for me to lead huge, hegemonic empires into oblivion. Though I'm hoping to reverse this trend in BirdNES.Its like Russia in OTL after the Time of Troubles, or the Russian Civil War; perhaps even after WWII, but its gains are not that great, at least not yet. On one hand, it is simply devastated, but on the other hand it could mostly rebuild from a (comparatively) blank slate and has indeed solved lots of problems during the war. Still, its quite rewarding to know that I managed to delay its ascent by a few decades at least.
I was pretty busy failing at my attacks on Persia at the time, and in general I'm a very conservative (probably too much so) player. This was also the first NES I was particularly active in (I joined 1 or 2 before this one that didn't get off the ground), so I wasn't quite comfortable in my own skin, so to speak. Not attacking you earlier was probably the second of my 2 biggest mistakes here, the first being letting Bengal off easy. Still, I dare say Gujarat would have been no cakewalk, even in the current situation.
Symphony D.
Deity
Right, but that doesn't do anything to change the fact my biggest enemy was dwindling manpower reserves. As long as I had people you weren't going to win a damn thing, and I was rapidly running out of those.
Which is why I should have focused on quality first instead of massed human wave attacks, which cost me terribly. If I had done that I would've been in a much better position at the end. That was my grossest error and one of the reasons a lot of offensive stalled or failed.Hah. I engineered that whole scenario.
It's not what you know, but who. Though the stupid Christianity-betraying nobles and their fears of "oh noes now teh russia wil b teh thret... n liek 50 yrs!11" was incredibly annoying.
das
Regeneration In Process
I could only reply with the same about this:
Symphony D. said:Hah. I engineered that whole scenario.
Admittedly Russia didn't have all that much people in the early 18th century even early on, but I did slaughter, raid and salt so much with the specific goal of sabotaging your manpower (and economy in general, ofcourse).
I do agree that it probably would have been more prudent to be less wasteful with your soldiers, at least after the critical period; all you needed to do after that was to tie down enough of my troops in Crimea, let Panda do the fighting for you and launch a final assault on Crimea when we actually begin crumbling.
Well surely the fact that I set up all those fortifications and consistantly tried to maximise your casualties (via artillery, supply raids and so forth) to speed up my attrition victory helped as well. Ofcourse, its all varying factors that contributed to the general cause of your setbacks, on which I mostly agree.
Well seeing that you're a heretic, they can't really be blamed can they?
Symphony D.
Deity
As could be seen by his campaigns stalling out (he was just throwing men at the problem, to the way he [and the updates] described it) and his inability to control his subordinates, he clearly was not to be trusted to land such a killing blow.das said:
Also, the damage to Ukraine did fairly little, to be honest, other than neutralize Kiev, as you had insufficient time to do much to the soil, and charred buildings and dead people make excellent fertilizer. In the end there were still about 40 Divisions worth of (male) troops left and I was gearing up to begin deploying female soldiers.
Yes, but you're ignoring my point. Everything you did was grand. I'm not disputing that. The singular outstanding reason everything you did was devastating on my troops to the degree it did, beyond it being there, was because my troops sucked. They had inferior weapons, inferior training, and generally inferior morale. Once these situations were rectified (or beginning to be) in the last few turns those countermeasures were nowhere near as lethal.
For everything you did to stop me, my own method of attacking compounded the problem. That is the point I am getting at here, not discrediting your efforts. Had I recognized this problem earlier, I would have fared much better and been in a superior position by the end of things. Once again going to prove human-wave armies suck. My failure to account for this and just barely holding on is part of the reason I'm playing down any acclaim for my actions in the realm of strategy, because its fundamental basis was flawed.
They were opposing it almost entirely out of future geostrategic concerns. Believe me, I know. Which is nonsense, because there's no such thing as a far-sighted politician, let alone groups of them.
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