King Kalmah
Magyar Madness
Japan holds all of US's debts...so China would get sunk
Disputed Islands Situation
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Japan holds all of US's debts...so China would get sunk
Winner
Diverse in Unity
Exactly right, both points.
Not really. I don't see anything that would have China backing themselves into a corner where they feel they really need to kick off a war. China is where the issue is being pushed. All they have to do to reduce the tension is to back off. The gain of grabing the islands is not that great. The loss of not doing so is not that important to who China thinks they are. I mean, if they can live for 50 years without attacking Taiwan, they can live without these islands. And certainly no other nation is going to start a war over them.
What I think is going on is that China is using this as a distraction for their domestic consumption, and also to see just how far they can push their neighbors short of war. More of testing the waters than any actual imperialistic adventure.
dido
Prince
Maybe, but the nationalist sentiments (from both sides) are worrying
I would not be surprised if some sort of skirmish broke out in the not-too-distant future
You need to remember that the people in power aren't really the nationalists everyone's talking about. If any country is governed by unpassionate, calculating bureaucrats it's China, the nationalism is only prevalent among the normal population, which we all know doesn't have much of a say in Chinese politics. So the leadership will play to their nationalism if it benefits them, but that doesn't mean that it will fall for its folly.
GhostWriter16
Deity
If Obama is that stupid I am going to have a heart attack.
If China were to actually call for the US to pay its debt I'd propose simply defaulting on it rather than actually fighting them. It would suck for the dollar but at least millions of people wouldn't die. Better yet, start paying the dang thing so my children aren't saddled with it as well. That's right, pay off every red cent.
We should not be in debt to any country, anywhere, for any reason.
However, the US should not help Japan in any case. In fact, we should get out now and stop prohibiting them from buildingtheir own army. Then let Japan and China do what they want. It isn't worth one red drop of American blood.
How many times do I have to say this? CHINA CANNOT CALL US GOVERNMENT DEBT. No matter what China wants the US has no reason to give them a solitary dime until the debt matures. If owners of the debt want to get cash they will just sell it on the open market to the vast number of people, companies, investment funds, and governments that want to hold US debt. And that would result in a slight rise in interest rates on US debt.
Exactly. Except that if China needs to dump US debt in a hurry, then they'll pay a hefty price in decreased market value as the flood the market short term. And so they'll lose a lot of money without really bothering the US at all.
Domen
Misico dux Vandalorum
I think we should move to those islands, settle there and declare their independence.
Civilization Fanatics' Banana Republic - would be a good name.
Civilization Fanatics' Banana Republic - would be a good name.
