DMI VII - Team BtS

[Refar]

Turns 275 - 285 / 1810AD to 1830AD

We built Oxford in Moskow - the only town even remotely worth it. Some Monasteries for the 10% mainly. Cottaged some of the new cities, and added two cottages in Moskow.

Settled two new cities. Two more Settlers + Buddha Guys in position. They might be sleeping, so don't forget to check on them, as soon as the economy alows for more cities.

Spoiler :

Teched Liberalism. Turned out, we are actually not the last Civ to get it.

Spoiler :

Got the money (and her willing to trade in the first place) by selling Gunpowder to Izzy, so it's actually Lib+Gunpowder for Economics.
Some money left for light deficite-research.

Teching Nationalism. I think Constitution should be next. With all those Scientist we are running, Representation could be our live-saver. Also on the path to Democracy for Emancipation, and with some luck we can trade it to Izzy as well.

We popped a Great Spy in Thebes.
I think golden age as soon as Constitution is done - we have enought cities to benefit from it + Anarchy-free switch to Rep. Then Democracy should be tech-able withnin the duration of the GA, for another Anarchy free switch to Emancipation (and perhaps other civics - at that point Free Religion might be worth a concideration for +10% tech).

Other than this:

Huayan Capac had a two turn Slave Revolt in Cuzco
Wash built Broadway. Electricity
My Computer crashed twice, because i forgot and tried to open the Log

The Save
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/57778/DMI_VII_AD-1830.CivBeyondSwordSave

 

[r_rolo1]

"Come to the dark side, Refar... Adopt BUG or you'll meet ultimate obliteration..."

Ok, I'm up isn't it? Definitely we need Democracy for UniSuf + Emancipation, but Rep may give us a slight push...

And Broadway This is getting completely out of hand

 

[Refar]

And Broadway This is getting completely out of hand

Yea... From Wash who's it War... I wonder BTW how's the war going.

We have a HUGE stack from Louis wandering around in or lands, but so far he did not moved into Wash's territory...

 

[Ad Hoc]

Wash was at war with Louis, Guess Louis is having second thoughts about moving the stack into Wash's territory.

Would there be any mileage in using the great spy to infiltrate and then try to steal democracy (or some other techs)? We are Russia...KGB and all that.

 

[Refar]

Would there be any mileage in using the great spy to infiltrate and then try to steal democracy (or some other techs)? We are Russia...KGB and all that.

I concidered it, but: We have like 130% cost with everyone, because everyone does ourspend us in ESP. Any contemporary tech is beyond what we get from infiltrating. Democracy should be aroung 6000 Points. I guess we could steal Optics and Theology, but i think the GA will help more...

 

[r_rolo1]

Clearly the GA is a better option...... It will allow Rep and UniSuf if well done and will permit to get extra cities.

 

[Bindamel]

I threw up three reports in the main thread to get us up-to-date on reports. They're not spectacular, but they're done.

If anyone sees anything wrong/funky on those reports, let me know and I'll fix it.

 

[r_rolo1]

Thanks for the reports ,bindamel..... May the High one reward you richy, because I don't have cash for that....

I'm playing it ATM... will post atleast the save today

 

[r_rolo1]

Ok, people ,we have a situation that needs some thinking. Basically Louis is asking our assistance against the americans.

if we do it , we'll be the front line of the war and will be hitted with a WW that we don't need, but will win some cookie points from Louis. And that would give us the oportunity of erasing the dreaded Hatty....

If we don't , we'll win some - against Louis

I strongly feel that we don't need this war now ,but I would want some feedback. Will wait half a hour for it

 

[r_rolo1]

This was not my best turnset ever... I'm pretty tired ( both phisically an psycologically ) so please forgive some noobness

To start....

Spoiler :

Go to Constitution ASAP

Then Louis tried to buy us for a war with Wash... As I told before, I denied it... No need for it now.

Spoiler :

But Louis really wanted to drag us ....

Spoiler :

Notice how close we are from louis... Should we try to take control of the AP seat?

Constitution in....

Spoiler :

Slave revolt....

Spoiler :

GA

Spoiler :

Revolted only to Rep now... in retrospective I must say that Refar is right, but we'll be able to change civics in 4 turns to correct it

A event from ruins... choosed this option because the other one would leave us almost without cash, a in BtS

Spoiler :

Regards

I think that we should go to a CE ( US, FS,Ema, FR )..... Most of our land is cottaged anyway and we need to outrun a Fin civ in late game. Most likely we'll need to go space
About FR.... not sure. I'm not so keen of not being a good Friend of Louis

Trieste, you're free to pick it....​

 

[Refar]

We should switch Civics righ now - 7 turns left from GA, so we will have a second switch before the GA ends to go for Emancipation and correct the choices we make now - if needed. I think

now:
Rep - the best we have right now.
FreeSpeach -

Cottages!!! (We are Philo, true, but at this point in the Game, after running Hybrid most of the time...). Moscow has a couple of mature Cottages... Some other cites here and there as well... More will follow soon with Emancipation...
FreeMarket - Not 100% sure on this one - With Multiple Big AI empires, our trade ballance should be nice... With 16 cities -> Rep+Merc = 48 - i expect trade routes in 100-tish - this is one where trying right now, and perhaps correcting befre the GA ends might be good.
Free Religion - 10% Tech - we need al we can get now.... "Brothers in Faith" will go away, but so will the "Infileds"...

Later with Democracy:
Rep -> Univeral Suffrage ??? Not sure - depends on how many Rep we get.
Emancipation - Well with everyone but us in it... will be quite a . Also fast Cottages growth, while cottaging the newly settled cities...
Free Market / Mercantilism - depending on what the Demographics tell us.

 

[r_rolo1]

Updated report

 

[Refar]

Notice how close we are from louis... Should we try to take control of the AP seat?

If we can get the Seat at the next election, it might help to cause some Havoc in the worlds economy - like making some "Infidel Wars", maybe

Revolted only to Rep now... in retrospective I must say that Refar is right, but we'll be able to change civics in 4 turns to correct it

I looked at the save before suggesting civics - We are not in Rep, and can revolt right now... I guess you meant to revolt but hit the wrong button, or forgot because you was of the Slave Revolt...

So if Trieste revolts on the IT, he will be have time for a second revolt in the GA

 

[r_rolo1]

I looked at the save before suggesting civics - We are not in Rep, and can revolt right now... I guess you meant to revolt but hit the wrong button, or forgot because you was of the Slave Revolt...

So if Trieste revolts on the IT, he will be have time for a second revolt in the GA

Probably it was what happened.... slave revolt in Beauro civ in a GA =

 

[r_rolo1]

Trieste missed his got it...pawelo, grab it

 

[pawelo]

I'll try to get the AP seat as advised, also full CE orientation.

Feel free to post more suggestions, I'll likely play tomorrow.

 

[r_rolo1]

Settle the already placed settlers... the GA will permit to get basic infra in there.

And ,most important: revolt to Rep + FS + FM ( not sure about Fr... leave it to you ) ASAP ( this means before hitting the Enter button )

 

[pawelo]

I think I got the Asap message

Btw, someone to game MP tomorrow ? Had a great fun against pholk (I joined the club of those who defeated pholkhero - still growing community) earlier today.
We game tomorrow around 12 PM GMT.

 

[r_rolo1]

Not this weekend ( LHC day )... maybe in the next.

 

[pawelo]

I'm sorry to be the first one to announce it - this game is likely lost in 15-20 turns..

Let's get back to the point anyway.

On the inherited turn, I did a few things :







Revolting cut Demo to 4 turns with a +54 gpt saldo. Not bad.

Four turns later, it finally came :



On the next turn, we refused once again to Dow Washington - no need to pi$$ him at this stage of the game.

Another revolt:



and another city:



Corporation was discovered in 1864AD for even better eco boost and Wall Street followed by Rep Parts. Started Rifling by the end of the turnset, but it's too late. On turn 302 Tiwanaku went legendary.

Three turns later it's Cuzco - only Machu Pichu has to go legendary and we are toast.



World overview:



Too bad for the cultural Inca ( the guy founded 6 religions out of 7 )- given our land and current pace I'm positive we would go to space before anyone else

Good game everyone though. Let's pull it til the bitter end