While proper leftists would disown me, I have much more in common with them than the right.
Do you consider yourself a Lefty or Righty
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rugbyLEAGUEfan
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That's exactly how I feel too I just didn't know how to put it as well as that
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
rugbyLEAGUEfan
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Quackers
The Frog
..ahh the old falsehood that only the right can be authoritarian...
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
...ahh the old falsehood that anyone thinks that only the right can be authoritarian.
Oruc
Reactionary
Nope!
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Oruc said:
Now how is that clear?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Because Oruc said so. Try to keep up.
classical_hero
In whom I trust
That's pretty funny. Tell us more about how the side that wants more freedom for gay people, more freedom for women, and more freedom for atheists are the authoritarian ones.
The Finkelstein Enquiry in Australia is the Left's attempt to stymie Free Speech in Australia. http://www.dbcde.gov.au/digital_economy/independent_media_inquiry/ It is really scary some things proposed.
People who proclaim themselves to be "proper leftists" are generally abusive authoritarians. Do not let them get away with defining anything.
Mr. Dictator
A Chain-Smoking Fox
Well, without using hyperbole or seeking to demonise entire hemispheres of political activity, perhaps you could outline some of their plans.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Who are we talking about here, anyway? Closest I can think of these days is left-wing social democrats who object to the direction taken by right-socdems towards social liberalism, and generalising a bit they don't seem any more abusive or authoritarian than those they criticise. (Of course, arguably they're all abusive authoritarians, but I doubt that's really what you meant.)
Can you give a list of the scariest things proposed?
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Conclusion from this thread: Some people have problem dealing with concepts in 2D, and will shoehorn the whole stinking mess kicking and screaming into a 1D one.
I would like to suscribe to Mise's newsletter. Thats where I am as well.
There are some old-school Communists (The Communist Party of Germany comes to mind with their hatred of the SPD)
kochman
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I don't really agree with this, though that is sometimes the case...
"bleeding heart" vs "selfish" is too broad though. I know a lot of conservatives that want to help people, but think the current entitlement system of the US is a total hogwash way of doing it... Bill Clinton was one of those, and enacted welfare reform...
You can be both, wanting to help people, but wanting to do it in a way you think is more sensible.
You paint it as people either care about others or don't... that's how the left loves to paint it, I've seen, because then they can stand on a soap box and think how nice they are.
I have heard, on the other hand, some repub friends say things like, "I don't want to give my money to help others"... I have a really hard time respecting that. So, I say, "what if you need help one day?", I get, "I've planned so that I won't"...
Ok, great, you also weren't born to a crackhead mother who abandoned you... not everyone has the same opportunities you had... etc.
It's pointless though.
The person in this context, she's actually very nice and giving to her friends... When she told me she'd take the shirt off her back to help a friend, I told her, I need lots of help so I'll need you to take off all your clothes. Hahahahahah... I ramble.
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