You've given no information. You said "don't use the word 'scandinavians.'"
I asked why, and your answer is basically "because."
That's not an answer. It doesn't explain anything at all.
Don't call people Scandinavians (split from Very Many Questions 32)
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I asked why, and your answer is basically "because."
That's not an answer. It doesn't explain anything at all.
Lohrenswald
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Nope. The information I'm looking for is WHY. You haven't given a reason.
warpus
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Is this the nordic version of the n-word?
Honestly I have never heard of this problem, I thought the s-word was perfectly acceptable
Honestly I have never heard of this problem, I thought the s-word was perfectly acceptable
Traitorfish
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I agree, there is a meaningful distinction between different kinds of dog.
Lohrenswald
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Self-evident
It's more like you arbitrarily decide three random breeds of dogs is the same
That Web comic is bad and offensive
Lohrenswald
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@Traitorfish you've done the England vs. Scotland spiel for years, why act like this now?
Lohrenswald
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There is some cultural insensitivity to it
bernie14
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staunch nationalism?
Well, if you're genuinely trying to get people to stop doing it, then it's in your best interest to explain why without going all around the houses.
Is this culturally insensitive for Norwegians, for your specific region, throughout "Scandinavia"...?
Is this culturally insensitive for Norwegians, for your specific region, throughout "Scandinavia"...?
warpus
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To me it sounds like the "Eastern European" thing Polish people have to put up with and dislike.
BUt I don't understand why it can't be explained by the person who wants us to stop using the word.
BUt I don't understand why it can't be explained by the person who wants us to stop using the word.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
I've never claimed that the British Isles is not an identifiable cultural area, even if I might have objected to the politically-fraught label of "British". Scots, English and Irish evidently have things in common with each other that they don't have with Belgians or Spaniards.
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How long will this thread go on before some actual information appears in it?
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Moderator Action: Not much longer. @Lohrenswald, since you're the individual placing forward a claim ("don't call people Scandinavians"), the onus is on you to clarify why. "Because I said so" or "it's self-evident" isn't conducive towards a discussion. This thread is liable to be locked if the back-and-forth about non-answers continues.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Well, like I said, it's fraught. Scandinavia has the liberty that no one region of Scandinavia has wielded political and cultural hegemony over the rest, at least not in recent memory, and the term has consequently avoided the same connotations of top-down cultural assimilation.
Gen.Mannerheim
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I have a co-worker from Norway, and he's never had a problem being called Scandinavian.
There's probably plenty of debate room over questions like: Is Scandinavia more of a cultural or geographic term? Who is considered apart of Scandinavia? Is it better to say Nordic instead? etc. etc. etc.
On this side of the pond, since nobody ever really uses North American as a descriptor, I've grown fond of Canmerica & Latin America.
There's probably plenty of debate room over questions like: Is Scandinavia more of a cultural or geographic term? Who is considered apart of Scandinavia? Is it better to say Nordic instead? etc. etc. etc.
On this side of the pond, since nobody ever really uses North American as a descriptor, I've grown fond of Canmerica & Latin America.
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If it was "self-evident" this squabble never would have started.
I asked if it was like the annoyance I feel when people say "American" when referring to Canada since it's "the same thing" (no, it really isn't).
If that's how it is, just say so. That's a reason I could understand. But this "self-evident" mantra isn't a reason.
In Canada, if someone says they have Scandinavian ancestry, that means someone in their family immigrated from Norway, Sweden, or Denmark. That's how it is in my family. My grandfather's mother was Norwegian (she came from the general area where warpus went on his holiday last year) and his father was Swedish. My grandfather was born in Namsos.
My grandmother's family was also Swedish. My grandfather immigrated to Canada in the early 1920s, and my grandmother's family came here 10-12 years earlier. None of us have ever had a problem describing our family as having Scandinavian ancestry. It's a lot faster than reciting the family tree.
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