Dubya goes cap in hand to the UN

[Yago]

Exactly, and the camp that wanted to push on to Baghdad took a lot of accusations of being warmongers, wanting to dominate the ME etc etc back then too, and not just from the Arabs. Nothing changes really.

Well, I think the reason was, that they for one thought that it would come to a change inside Iraq, but they more feared what would happen if they go inside Iraq, what would happen and how to control the outcome. The money they would need to invest. They feared to open a pandora's box. Or to say it otherwise, the exact reasons are not fully known, because the documents form that time are not released to the public yet. It propably funny to read about it 2060, when all relevant decision points are open. Hintsight is beautiful, once you actually have it.

 

[Kentonio]

It certainly is.

 

[Finmaster]

Originally posted by Mr Black
I had you Euros figured out wrong.

I thought you all cared about the Iraqi people, but you don't.

You just want to see the U.S. get fvcked, and if that means the Iraqi's get fvcked, NO PROBLEM.

I expected better, I was wrong.

You are right about this, Mr Black. After EVERYTHING that USA has done to screw up Europe, to screw up the UN and to screw up the entire world, I would REALLY want to see Bush get fvcked. Before this whole crisis, I expected better from America and the Americans. I was wrong.

If you are so much into war, you at least have to ensure that you have the resources to clean up after the war. It was the US that refused to co-operate with the rest of the world; I don't see any reason why the rest of the world should co-operate with the US right now. If you think that the people of Iraq aren't doing too good, then blame yourself - it was your idea, not Europe's, to use the most inhuman way possible to get rid of the "threat" of Saddam. After you do all that, you DON'T whine to others how you need money now. You clean up your own mess. Why? Because it is YOUR mess. Period.

 

[Archer 007]

Originally posted by Finmaster

You are right about this, Mr Black. After EVERYTHING that USA has done to screw up Europe, to screw up the UN and to screw up the entire world, I would REALLY want to see Bush get fvcked. Before this whole crisis, I expected better from America and the Americans. I was wrong.

I would put hard feeling toward all America. Many people here dislike him and as of now, he is projected to lose the 2004 election.