Economic Sanctions for Rogue States

[Timsup2nothin]

I must admit, back when I was bidding jobs all the time if I found out the customer was a cop I just turned and left. But discrimination based on occupation isn't illegal.

 

[Zelig]

Tim Cook leads tech sector opposition to “dangerous” Indiana law

"Yelp will make every effort to expand its corporate presence only in states that do not have these laws allowing for discrimination on the books," Stoppelman wrote in a letter that echoed the points he'd made to Arizona last year over similar legislation.

May's Indy Big Data Conference appears to be the first major Indiana tech event to suffer from the law's signing, as major companies like Oracle, EMC, and Cloudera have already pulled out in protest.

Gogobot has begun warning users who look up travel tips in Indiana about the law with a warning that states, "critics of this law say that it may legalize discrimination against travelers due to their sexual orientation."

 

[Commodore]

Tim Cook leads tech sector opposition to “dangerous” Indiana law

This is an extremely good thing and I hope it not only continues but intensifies as well. Basically, the rest of the nation needs to make a concerted effort to completely wreck Indiana's economy until they are so impoverished that they have no choice but to repeal the law in order to see any kind of relief.

Either way though, Indiana is fighting a losing battle. Soon there will be federal laws that nullify state laws like this anyway. Given the way federal courts have been ruling on gay rights lately, I also doubt this law would survive its first legal challenge.

 

[Hygro]

Corporations having cultural sway this way doesn't make me feel particularly better even if they're on the right side.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Corporations having cultural sway this way doesn't make me feel particularly better even if they're on the right side.

Fact is that they have it. Seeing a few use it responsibly is a nice change.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay, this is hilarious.

In a press conference this morning the Governor of Indiana urged the legislature to provide 'clarification' to the law allowing businesses to refuse service based on religious grounds to make it clear that the law was not intended to allow businesses to refuse service to anyone on any grounds. That certainly sounds like it will clarify things to me.

"It shall be legal in the State of Indiana to do thus and so...no it isn't. We were just kidding."

That looks like something useful to put on the books.

 

[Berzerker]

not sure why someone has to be religious to have sincerely held beliefs

sounds like unequal protection

 

[JollyRoger]

Religion seems to be a lifestyle choice where many of them demand special treatment backed by laws.

 

[Berzerker]

and Rand Paul said in 2013 that gay rights dont exist because its a behavior

uh oh, will Rand tell the religious right they have no rights based on their religion?

 

[Zelig]

This leaves me wondering how this law could be exploited. For example, my (new) religion is the church of healthy people. It explicitly forbids me to enter into any financial arrangement with unhealthy people. I also happen to run a health insurance business, and for religious reasons I cannot sign up people with pre-existing conditions (because they are not healthy). The fact that this puts me at a commercial advantage in the health insurance market is purely by chance. Does this sound a) legal b) a good idea?

People are already ahead of you.

The First Church of Cannabis was approved after Indiana’s religious freedom law was passed

The church’s founder Bill Levin said he filed paperwork in direct response to Indiana Gov. Mike Pence’s signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law last Thursday. Secretary of State Connie Lawson approved the church as a religious corporation with the stated intent “to start a church based on love and understanding with compassion for all.”

Once the church is established, members will be asked for individual donations of $4.20 a month, Levin said.

There's also the St. Priapus Church, whose official website is decidedly NSFW.

 

[Arakhor]

Their sacred text is called the Scripture of the Holy Seed.

 

[Zelig]

Their sacred text is called the Scripture of the Holy Seed.

I'm not sure which of those churches you're referring to.

 

[Arakhor]

St Priapus, from the very link you posted.

 

[Berzerker]

I was wondering how the religious drug users would respond...

Seems awfully hypocritical to tell people they can mistreat others based on religion while putting other religious folk in jail for smoking a plant

oh wait, thats actually not hypocritical

until they call themselves Christians

 

[Zelig]

St Priapus, from the very link you posted.

It would work for either.

 

[JollyRoger]

Even a mainstream Christian should be exempt from marijuana prohibition:

Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth

 

[caketastydelish]

http://news.yahoo.com/indiana-gov-pence-set-sign-religious-objections-bill-050305160.html

It seems to me that the people that fear Sharia law coming to the U.S. are likely the same people that support legislating this pro-religious bigotry nonsense.

The DOC is one of the most liberal, tolerant christian churches in america. We (as I am a member) do not fear Muslims. Oh wait, what was that about being a 97 year old beating up plumbers or whatever?

edit: More seriously, it's ironic you think we're opposed because of "sharia "law" rather than the actual bigotry of the bill.

 

[Zelig]

Wal-Mart, an unlikely hero of the left, could turn tide against Arkansas religious law

What even Starbucks, for all its progressive bona fides, couldn’t do for race relations, Wal-Mart, reputedly the most hated retailer in America may be able to do for the fight against “religious freedom” legislation.

The retail behemoth came out swinging against the bill passed in its home state of Arkansas on Tuesday, which is similar to the one enacted last week in Indiana. The uproar looks to be ready to rival Indiana’s, with the hashtag #BoycottIndiana having now been joined by #BoycottArkansas on Twitter.

“Today’s passage of HB1228 threatens to undermine the spirit of inclusion present throughout the state of Arkansas and does not reflect the values we proudly uphold,” said Doug McMillon, Walmart CEO, in that statement.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

So how stupid is the Arkansas legislature?

"Sure, let's pass this. It's working so well in Indiana."

What a bunch of buffoons.

 

[JollyRoger]

Texas has about 20 so-called religious freedom bills in the hopper, one of which states the government shall not place a burden on religion. The usual language is substantial burden. Take out the word substantial and you basically have a free for all.