Elimination Game Thread - Which Civs Need a Second Leader?

Americans 14
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Brazilians 8 - 3 = 5 As a Brazilian, I say that most Brazilians have not been very proud with their leaders.
Chinese 26
Egyptians 23
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 30 + 1 = 31 I would be happy with India having 3 leaders.
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 13
 
Americans 14
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Brazilians 5-3=2 - Brazil is quite modern "Civ". It doesn't have very long history, and actually, it's leaded by the best leader in it's history. It doesn't need another leader.
Chinese 26
Egyptians 23
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 13+1=14 - I'm tired of Gilgamesh. Bring me Ur-Nammu or Puabi!
 
Americans (14+1)=15 It's too important to go without another leader. Give me Lincoln!
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Brazilians 2-3=0 ELIMINATED, Brazil already has its greatest leader
Chinese 26
Egyptians 23
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 14
 
Americans 15 + 1 = 16 - Of course they need another leader
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 23
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 14 - 3 = 11 - Yeah, they were the first civilization and all, but Civ does not really need them
 
Americans 16-3=13 no I disagree there are civilizations in this list that lasted thousands of years, America only existed for 200 ish years, and just because it's the superpower of our time we don't have to glorify them giving them the importance they shouldn't have.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 23+1=24 they definitely need a real Egyptian Pharaoh
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 11
 
Americans 13
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 15
Persians 22
Poles 18 - 3 = 15 (We know not every civ will get a second leader, so why give one of the non-world powers a second leader?)
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 11 + 1 = 12 (One of the most worthy civs for a second leader, since their current one is basically legendary. We need someone who was real, like Ur-Nammu, he of the warriors and legal code, or Gudea of Lagash, he of the devout holiness and defenses.)
 
Americans 13
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24
English 22
French 28
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 12 (15-3) there is no other possible
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21 (20+1) thousand years must be represented
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12
 
Americans 13
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24
English 22-3=19
French 28+1=29
Germans 21
Indians 31
Japanese 17
Kongolese 12
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12

If "British Museums" Victoria's ability then I would gladly trade her out for someone else. However, since that's unfortunately the entire civ's ability and her "Pax Brittanica" ability seems far more fitting for the entire civ I feel like England is least in need of a new leader of all the remaining European sides. Seriously, it almost seems like they got Britain's civ and leader abilities backwards.

On the flipside France's "Le Spy" ability definitely doesn't do service to the country's long and storied history and Medici is... not the best choice to lead France. To say the very least.
 
Americans 10 (13-3) I still don't see the U.S as more worthy than any of the other Civ's listed here in terms of getting a new leader.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24
English 19
French 29
Germans 21
Indians 32 (31 + 1) Representing pre-colonial India would be great with a second leader.
Japanese 17
Kongolese 12
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12
 
Americans 10
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24
English 19 + 1 = 20 Victoria was meh choice.
French 29
Germans 21 - 3 = 18 Even America has much more interesting and valid leader(s). France and England cover region well enough.
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 12
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12
 
Americans 10
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 24 + 1 = 25 I haven't upvoting them. And we need the return of Old Egypt.
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 12 - 3 = 9 One leader is enough, focus on Ethiopia, morocco, Zimbabwe, kilwa or mali/songhai
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12
 
Americans 10 - 3 = 7 Let's be honest, America has only a few decades of independence more than Brazil. And when I compare America with India, China, Egypt, Persia, France, England and other civs with many centuries of history, the priority for an American alternative leader falls far below.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19
Chinese 26
Egyptians 25 +1 = 26 I need a Pharaoh.
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 9
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12
 
Americans 7
Arabs 21
Aztecs 19-3=16 - Monty is enough.
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 9
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 12+1=13 - Puabi would make a great woman leader. Ur-Nammu is also a perfect choice for an alternate leader of Sumer!
 
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Americans 7 + 1 = 8 - What does it matter how long they have been around? It would still be weird to kick them our before certain other civs
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 9
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 21 - 3 = 18 - Trajan represents Rome well enough, no need for another leader
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 13
 
Americans (8+1)=9 Too soon to eliminate them
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese (9-3)=6 Without Mvemba's limitation, Kongo will be OP, plus the other Kongolese kings don't seem interesting enough or are too similar to Mvemba
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 18
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 13
 
Americans 9 you're safe until the poles and Kongo go down
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 6-3=3 doesn't particularly need a second leader
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 18+1=19 there's no civilization game without a Caesar, Augustus or Julius
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 13
 
You know that in-game Trajan calls himself "Caesar Traianus", right?
Well yeah but that's coming from the original Caesar that kick-started the trend of every emperor should be called Caesar, and besides Romans had very long and complicated names
 
Americans 10 (9+1) at least Homer Simpson as second leader is needed:D
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 3
Persians 22
Poles 15
Romans 19
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10 (13-3) Akkad, Babylon, Assyria, Phoenicia...
 
Americans 10
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 26 + 1 = 27 (Could use someone with more military flair, like Thurmond III).
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 3
Persians 22
Poles 15 - 3 = 12 (Among the lowest priorities for a second leader.)
Romans 19
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
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