Elimination Game Thread - Which Civs Need a Second Leader?

Americans 10 + 1 = 11 Extremely influential world power
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Kongolese 3 - 3 = ELIMINATED Not a priority
Persians 22
Poles 12
Romans 19
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 11+1=12
Arabs 21
Aztecs 16-3=13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Persians 22
Poles 12
Romans 19
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10

Even though America is a relatively young nation its leadership has gone through such drastix changes in paradigm and politics over its short time that it's produced an incredibly diverse array of rulers in a very short frame of time. Also according to the game's clock the USA isn't all that young, as due to the slowing down of game time to represent the increasing pace of technology they've existed for a LOT of turns.

As for Aztecs Monty II isn't known for much more than losing the empire and the rest of the emperors pretty much just continued the policies set by Monty I.
 
Americans 9 (12 - 3) The Americans are an incredibly influential power, but every Civ on this list has held a significant amount of power at some point in their history. While I think the US is a great country I dont think its as worthy as other Civs on this list.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Persians 22
Poles 13 (12 +1) This may be a sinking ship but the history of Poland has led to some great leaders that I have to throw my support behind.
Romans 19
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 9
Arabs 21
Aztecs 113
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Persians 22-3=19 As much as I would like a second leader for Persia and Poland all I have to ask is this, why would firaxis lower the value of their dlcs by reintroducing it in an expansion with just a different leader.
Poles 13
Romans 19+1=20 I have already stated my reason.
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 9 - 3 = 6 People want it to have a 2nd or 3rd leader, but if i hear who they propose, i just can't help it but downvoting them.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 13 +1 = 14 I would like a second leader
Romans 20.
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 6 - 3 = 3 Overrated because they are the greatest world power of our time, but this does not matter much when it comes to leaders. Alternative leaders are much more appropriate in civilizations that have centuries of much history, which is not the case of the USA, Brazil and Australia. They are in lower priority.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29
Germans 18
Indians 32 + 1 = 33 Give me two more Indian leaders besides Gandhi and I'll be happy.
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 14
Romans 20.
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 3
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27
English 20
French 29 + 1 = 30 Need one. The most important European civilization after Rome. Current leader is meh.
Germans 18 - 3 = 15 They will probably got one (good market to milk), but they don't need. Blob civ, united history shorter and less revelant than American one. Current leader is probably the best possible option anyway. I would prefer two leaders for Austria - Theresa and Charles V would be great.
Indians 33
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 14
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Americans 3 -3 = 0 ELIMINATED. They would all seem pretty similar anyway... except for Trump, but he's more fit as a community mod.
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 27 + 1 = 28. The Egyptian culture was around for thousands of years, and had a bunch of semi-mythical wierdos on the throne. Perfect for Civ!
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 33
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 14
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 13
Chinese 26
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 33+1=34 - India is in a biggest need of a leader. Why? Because Gandhi is not a leader!
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 14-3=11 - Poland is actually one of the Civs that doesn't need a second leader. Poland maybe was quite vast, but it wasn't so important. Neither it had long history of Egypt, India, China or Persia.
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians 10
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs (13-3)=10 People can't tell the Aztec Kings apart, so why bother. Leugi has an Itzcoatl mod and JFD created a Cuauhtemoc mod.
Chinese 26
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 11
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18
Sumerians (10+1)=11 I would like another leader for them, if only to have someone else than Gilgamesh

I hope Firaxis gives us a second American leader just to make you guys upset. :p
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs =10
Chinese 26
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 11-3=8 the poles didn't do that much to deserve another leader
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 18+1=19 I would love another Spanish leader please
Sumerians 11

@Guandao of course we are going to have another American leader for the same reason you said that, you guys are too patriotic for this day and age, but for now I see this as a great triumph,
Europe (and Canada) 1 America 0:p:p
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 10
Chinese 26 + 1 = 27 (Chinese history is ginormously long, and a second leader is suitable for this titan)
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 8 - 3 = 5 (Among the lowest priorities for a second leader in this game. Sorry.)
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 11
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 7 (10 - 3) Out of these remaining Civs the Aztecs are going to be one of the next ones eliminated and I'm not going to stand in the way of that.
Chinese 28 (27 + 1) China is one of Earths oldest civilisations, its only fair that they get a second leader.
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 20
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 11
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 7
Chinese 28
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 15 + 1 = 16 - Calling Germany a blob civ is like stating the Germans are not a nation, which is not true, and they need another leader, especially Bismarck - the unifier of Germany
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 20 - 3 = 17 - A very low priority
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 11
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 7 - 3 = 4 I do not oppose to the inclusion of an Aztec alternative leader, but I still do not know how a second leader would add to civilization.
Chinese 28
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 16 + 1 = 17 Too few points, I would not say that Germany is in high need of a second leader like India and Egypt, but surely the Germans need an altenative leader.
Indians 34
Japanese 17
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 17
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 11
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 4
Chinese 28
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 17
Indians 34
Japanese 17 + 1 = 18 They have a great number of leaders to choose from.
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 17
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 11 - 3 = 8 They don't really need a second leader.
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 4-3=1 - Monty is enough.
Chinese 28
Egyptians 28
English 20
French 30
Germans 17
Indians 34
Japanese 18
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 17
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 8+1=9 - Tired of Gilgamesh. I want either Puabi or Ur-Nammu.
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 1
Chinese 28
Egyptians 28 + 1 = 29 An actual egyptian leader is needed.
English 20
French 30
Germans 17 - 3 = 14 Have I ever told you the story of darth Italy the wise? It was never represented in civ series, while Germies were probably included in every single game. So we can have some boring modern leader (or whatever) to waste memory or bring justice and security to our new Italy. Italy needs not only medieval/renaissance leader, but also Victor Emmanuel II (jk). As we know Italy unified earlier, discovered fascism earlier, while Germany was a mere copyist. Germany is a blob civ in the crowded region, neighbours outshine it, one leader is more than enough. As I said earlier, they were worse than Americans, which are gone now. Now they are worse than Sumerians, which also do not need another leader.
Indians 34
Japanese 18
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 17
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 9
 
Arabs 21
Aztecs 1-3=0 Eliminated! One Aztec leader is enough
Chinese 28
Egyptians 29
English 20
French 30
Germans (14+1)=15 Not convinced that they are unworthy of a second leader
Indians 34
Japanese 18
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 17
Russians 21
Spanish 19
Sumerians 9
 
Americans 3 -3 = 0 ELIMINATED. They would all seem pretty similar anyway... except for Trump, but he's more fit as a community mod.

Is this a joke:hammer2:Maybe you wanna play Tetris with/against Benin or Moldova - Good luck:D

Arabs 21
Chinese 28
Egyptians 29
English 20
French 30
Germans 15
Indians 34
Japanese 18
Persians 19
Poles 5
Romans 18 (17+1) If we talk about a Civilization there is a undisputed number one
Russians 18 (21-3) Peter is fitting a. A separate Soviet Civ would add more to the game
Spanish 19
Sumerians 9
 
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