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To: Talephas
From: Sixth-Frei
Tell your vassal to cease his braying.
From: Sixth-Frei
Tell your vassal to cease his braying.
End of Empires - N3S III
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Terrance888
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OOC: Ouch. In the face. I literally winced.
Jehoshua
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The Clerical Hierarchy of the Church of Iralliam
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note: Monastic hierarchy not included, monks in priestly terms may however hold a priestly rank. Likewise certain offices are not mutually exclusive, for example a catechist might also be a priest, or an Exarch an acknowledged Oporeastin (spiritual master/Hierophant). Lay people may also play roles in temples (particularly large ones), such as say in the gathering, arrangement and selling of offerings, the administration of its estate, or the maintenance and production of equipment, vestments, icons and the like.
Also, spoilered for convenience
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EDIT: Oh, and some Old Thearakean terms/grammar I have collected from everything I, or Kal'thzar has written on the thread, or developed recently.
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Perfectionist
Angel of Verdun
This might not be quite appropriate, and I apologise if that's the case, but it's been bothering me for some time, now that I've gone to check it's bothering me rather more, and right before the ET seems like a decent time to raise the issue: scale has gone completely awry in the last ten or so updates. If memory serves NK's repeatedly said that a pixel is about 12 miles, or at least is intended to be so absent projection distortions. If you use that and go have a look, you find that things are really pretty badly out of whack. I imagine we mostly think of the Federation of Kargan, for instance, as a reasonably compact and rational entity. However, it turns out, unless I've done something really stupid, that the straight-line distance from Pisos to Seis is about 2200 miles, or roughly comparable to the distance from London to Damascus. The Federation spans as much distance as the Roman Empire, in other words. The Federation is, of course, far from the worst offender in this regard: the Karapeshai Exatai is, by my crude reckoning, very nearly as big as Russia, and sending an army from the Wind Principality to Krato is ONE AND A HALF times the distance to send an army from New York to LA. There's a problem here, either with my understanding or something more fundamental.
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ooc: If that scale is true it would be observationally most certainly problematic, considering the map is only the northern hemisphere for the most part (ergo it would suggest a monstrously enormous world). That said I'm not sure there is actually a problem, since I would gather rectification has occurred as the map has expanded. Its not like Pisos and Seis have mysteriously got further from each-other over time as the turns have rolled on, after all they haven't moved one iota from where they started.
Symphony D.
Deity
I'll tag this as a spoiler but Eratosthenes did something similar between 250 and 200 BC and I'm obviously just an observer presenting OOC information:
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Well, luckily, we're far enough along, and Kothari and Carohan science is far enough along, that I don't have to be cagey about it anymore; they've measured the planet with a great deal of accuracy.
Thaera, or whatever you want to call EoE's world, is for sanity's sake equal to Earth in pretty much every dimension (mass, volume, etc.). This means its mean circumference is ~40,100 km. The problem is that the map is a somewhat complicated projection. If I were on my other PC at this point, I could provide some nifty alternative projections, but for now it'll just have to suffice it to say Winkel-Tripel is not good for distance measuring (in fact, it's not good for pretty much anything except visually approximating the shape of the world; it's a compromise projection through and through). That said, at the equator (which, extremely conveniently, runs right through the capital of Tsutongmerang), the map is 2,970 pixels wide. Which, for the math allergic, means it's ~13.5 kilometers to the pixel. This gets gradually somewhat smaller and smaller the further you travel from the equator; at the latitude where Atracta lies (about 40 degrees, and I have to eyeball it because, again, literally everything I use for End of Empires is on a different computer), which is about 30,000 km, the figure is closer to 11 km/pixel edge.
For thereal measurement system metric allergic, that means it ranges from ~7-8 miles on a side.
Therefore, the maximum length of the Farubaida is ~1,400 miles, somewhat shorter than the East Coast of the USA, or a little larger than the Western Mediterranean. Gallat (from Gallasa to Talad), for comparison, is more like ~640 miles long, a distance comparable with Italy, which is about what everyone thinks anyway. Helsia is about as big as Greece+Crete. The eastern continent is about as wide as North America from tip to tip, which is probably wider than most people imagine, but it's also pretty darn small owing to the compressed vertical axis. The Karapeshai is the closest thing to a Rome-sized entity we have in terms of land area, and it's rather depopulated.
(The distance the Wind troops marched is still pretty dang far, though).
Thaera, or whatever you want to call EoE's world, is for sanity's sake equal to Earth in pretty much every dimension (mass, volume, etc.). This means its mean circumference is ~40,100 km. The problem is that the map is a somewhat complicated projection. If I were on my other PC at this point, I could provide some nifty alternative projections, but for now it'll just have to suffice it to say Winkel-Tripel is not good for distance measuring (in fact, it's not good for pretty much anything except visually approximating the shape of the world; it's a compromise projection through and through). That said, at the equator (which, extremely conveniently, runs right through the capital of Tsutongmerang), the map is 2,970 pixels wide. Which, for the math allergic, means it's ~13.5 kilometers to the pixel. This gets gradually somewhat smaller and smaller the further you travel from the equator; at the latitude where Atracta lies (about 40 degrees, and I have to eyeball it because, again, literally everything I use for End of Empires is on a different computer), which is about 30,000 km, the figure is closer to 11 km/pixel edge.
For the
Therefore, the maximum length of the Farubaida is ~1,400 miles, somewhat shorter than the East Coast of the USA, or a little larger than the Western Mediterranean. Gallat (from Gallasa to Talad), for comparison, is more like ~640 miles long, a distance comparable with Italy, which is about what everyone thinks anyway. Helsia is about as big as Greece+Crete. The eastern continent is about as wide as North America from tip to tip, which is probably wider than most people imagine, but it's also pretty darn small owing to the compressed vertical axis. The Karapeshai is the closest thing to a Rome-sized entity we have in terms of land area, and it's rather depopulated.
(The distance the Wind troops marched is still pretty dang far, though).
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
From: Talephas
To: Sixth-Frei
You have shown your wisdom as always, my friend, in these dark days.
I am convinced that the recent actions of your vassals amount to a conspiracy to undermine your rule. We must only look to the recent demand of the Star-Prince to himself be recognized as an Ayasi and equal. The Farubaida as well has made it clear that their support of your majesty is but conditional.
Yes, of course, to your face they will do nothing but bow, but the nature of duplicity is such. Like you, I am a kind friend to those below me, and merciful. But when I am openly challenged, I must protect my authority, for on it rests the peace and safety of my people.
Of course I will come to Kirost as you ask, but it is my request that this conclave be ended with the Star-Prince and the Council of Kargan pledging themselves to your authority, in person. I do not suggest you rule them with a heavy hand, but especially with the depredations of the last decade, it is essential that the whole world see the authority of the Moti as truly restored.
We may discuss the religious matters and the status of the Peko as well at that time. I will prepare my armies to march in your name in the event that, as before, this is a ruse and the Faronai and Kothari seek freedom, not submission.
To: Sixth-Frei
You have shown your wisdom as always, my friend, in these dark days.
I am convinced that the recent actions of your vassals amount to a conspiracy to undermine your rule. We must only look to the recent demand of the Star-Prince to himself be recognized as an Ayasi and equal. The Farubaida as well has made it clear that their support of your majesty is but conditional.
Yes, of course, to your face they will do nothing but bow, but the nature of duplicity is such. Like you, I am a kind friend to those below me, and merciful. But when I am openly challenged, I must protect my authority, for on it rests the peace and safety of my people.
Of course I will come to Kirost as you ask, but it is my request that this conclave be ended with the Star-Prince and the Council of Kargan pledging themselves to your authority, in person. I do not suggest you rule them with a heavy hand, but especially with the depredations of the last decade, it is essential that the whole world see the authority of the Moti as truly restored.
We may discuss the religious matters and the status of the Peko as well at that time. I will prepare my armies to march in your name in the event that, as before, this is a ruse and the Faronai and Kothari seek freedom, not submission.
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From: Sixth-Frei
To: Talephas
I know not what I can do to assuage your fears; trust, perhaps, that my eyes and ears are everywhere, and that they would know everything, if these men plan to betray me. I shall summon them -- though I am curious how this will calm you, when you have already insisted they are nothing but duplicitous. But, for the convenience of my friend, Metexares, who must travel far to reach my lands in the first place, I shall move the place of meeting to Bysria, this a much more central location for all involved.
To: Talephas
I know not what I can do to assuage your fears; trust, perhaps, that my eyes and ears are everywhere, and that they would know everything, if these men plan to betray me. I shall summon them -- though I am curious how this will calm you, when you have already insisted they are nothing but duplicitous. But, for the convenience of my friend, Metexares, who must travel far to reach my lands in the first place, I shall move the place of meeting to Bysria, this a much more central location for all involved.
Terrance888
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OOC: I spent an twenty minutes researching the ins and outs of the words "freedom" and "submission". Yeah, those words have very many interesting and possibly applicable meanings, including various cool combinations and clever wordplay possibilities. I'm eager to see the final result of this.
Also, I think the Conclave of Kirost should be held live ala #nes. Elsewise, I don't really see real progress in anyone's arguments, or at least, progress that can be seen as it occurs. Also, a summarized/storified rendition of the Conclave would be fun to read.
Also, I think the Conclave of Kirost should be held live ala #nes. Elsewise, I don't really see real progress in anyone's arguments, or at least, progress that can be seen as it occurs. Also, a summarized/storified rendition of the Conclave would be fun to read.
We are always willing to come to such a Conference; indeed, I have never yet met Sixth-Frei or Talephas in my long life and it would be an undoubted pleasure to do so.
I assure you, Talephas, however, that I have no intention whatsoever of forfeiting any freedom or making myself Sixth-Frei's inferior, or of saying to anyone that I have at any point been subject to the Holy Moti Empire. We will not agree to do that, and if he who you recognise as our overlord wished to try to make us, he would incur our displeasure; but as it is, he has no such intention, and accordingly he has our loyal alliance and friendship, and will always do so.
That he permanently has my loyalty and friendship, I can swear; that I render it anything other than voluntarily, I cannot.
I assure you, Talephas, however, that I have no intention whatsoever of forfeiting any freedom or making myself Sixth-Frei's inferior, or of saying to anyone that I have at any point been subject to the Holy Moti Empire. We will not agree to do that, and if he who you recognise as our overlord wished to try to make us, he would incur our displeasure; but as it is, he has no such intention, and accordingly he has our loyal alliance and friendship, and will always do so.
That he permanently has my loyalty and friendship, I can swear; that I render it anything other than voluntarily, I cannot.
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To: The Pertinent Powers
From: The Grand-Patriarchate in Opios
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In response to continued debate on the status of certain states with regards to the Ayasi, the juridical opinion of the Vastunintyar experts in Opios with regards to the matter of the statuses of the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida o Caroha is that they are sovereign. This is clearly manifest and confirmed historically by the fact that neither power has ever been under the sovereign authority of the Ayasi, in the manner of, for example, the Palmyran and Jiphan principalities as they relate themselves to the Kothari Exatai, being subject to its protection.
The Ayasi's superiority over these two powers lies in terms of his paramountcy, granted by the Church, in the honour hierarchy of Iralliamite sovereigns with the corresponding greater honour and dignity of the Ayasi, and in the case of the Farubaida in the long-standing precedent of acquiescence to this paramountcy by the same (the relationship between Empire and Farubaida having always been one of the Empire having the greater honour and dignity, the Ayasi personally obviously having far greater honour than any member of the Sarafaio). His status as paramount Lord of the South of the World as recognised by the Karapeshai Exatai, noting that the two pertinent powers did not make themselves subject to the agreement, can only be considered as instituted as a recognition of the Ayasi's status within traditional order of the South, with the Karapeshai Exatais recognition being a recognition in their own terms of this native order. The existing state of sovereignty in the southern sphere could not have been altered by it, since alteration of obligations requires consent of both parties. The agreement between the Empire and the Karapeshai Exatai cannot be thus construed to establish the Ayasi as sovereign in either the Kothari Exatai or the Farubaida, since neither party made itself subject to the sovereignty of the Ayasi in the agreement which saw the Karapeshai Redeemer and the Ayasi recognise the primacy of each-other in their respective spheres and commit to the delimitation of their spheres in the interests of peace and order.
The duties and obligations of the Farubaida and the Kothari Exatai and of the other powers subject to the primacy and paramountcy of the Ayasi thus rest in the traditional obligations fidelity and honour. That is to say in the customary obligation of both powers to give their allegiance to the Holy Moti Empire in war and peace, to submit to the primacy of the Ayasi in terms of honour and status, and to uphold faithfully any other obligations that custom, treaty or compact has instituted between the Ayasi and his Empire, and any given party.
Whether the obligations of allegiance and/or recognition of primacy, or any particular obligations whatever, have been violated, thus offending the majesty of the Ayasi, is necessarily for the determination of the aggrieved party, namely the Sovereign Ayasi, with particular note parties outside the sphere of the Ayasi as delimitated by treaty with the Karapeshai Exatai, the treaty pertaining to which, the Sovereign Ayasi has referenced in the summoning of the conference that is to occur in Bysria.
~ The Vastunintyardirnas (ooc: Assembly of the Keepers of Books, that is to say the group of Vastunintyar responsible for advising the Grandpatriarchate and others on canon and law)
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Custom would dictate that the Hierarchy of Rulers, predicated in the paramountcy granted by the Church to the Ayasi and upon custom, would be as such within the Ayasi's paramountcy: excluding the far lands of the west (those regions which would come under the South), the heathens on the edge of the southern world, the powers on the eastern continent, and the Vithanama Empire (noting the ambiguity of their status) from this assessment. Members of the same rank (excluding individual members of the Sarafaio, who's status is held as a collective) are of equal status.
From: The Grand-Patriarchate in Opios
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In response to continued debate on the status of certain states with regards to the Ayasi, the juridical opinion of the Vastunintyar experts in Opios with regards to the matter of the statuses of the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida o Caroha is that they are sovereign. This is clearly manifest and confirmed historically by the fact that neither power has ever been under the sovereign authority of the Ayasi, in the manner of, for example, the Palmyran and Jiphan principalities as they relate themselves to the Kothari Exatai, being subject to its protection.
The Ayasi's superiority over these two powers lies in terms of his paramountcy, granted by the Church, in the honour hierarchy of Iralliamite sovereigns with the corresponding greater honour and dignity of the Ayasi, and in the case of the Farubaida in the long-standing precedent of acquiescence to this paramountcy by the same (the relationship between Empire and Farubaida having always been one of the Empire having the greater honour and dignity, the Ayasi personally obviously having far greater honour than any member of the Sarafaio). His status as paramount Lord of the South of the World as recognised by the Karapeshai Exatai, noting that the two pertinent powers did not make themselves subject to the agreement, can only be considered as instituted as a recognition of the Ayasi's status within traditional order of the South, with the Karapeshai Exatais recognition being a recognition in their own terms of this native order. The existing state of sovereignty in the southern sphere could not have been altered by it, since alteration of obligations requires consent of both parties. The agreement between the Empire and the Karapeshai Exatai cannot be thus construed to establish the Ayasi as sovereign in either the Kothari Exatai or the Farubaida, since neither party made itself subject to the sovereignty of the Ayasi in the agreement which saw the Karapeshai Redeemer and the Ayasi recognise the primacy of each-other in their respective spheres and commit to the delimitation of their spheres in the interests of peace and order.
The duties and obligations of the Farubaida and the Kothari Exatai and of the other powers subject to the primacy and paramountcy of the Ayasi thus rest in the traditional obligations fidelity and honour. That is to say in the customary obligation of both powers to give their allegiance to the Holy Moti Empire in war and peace, to submit to the primacy of the Ayasi in terms of honour and status, and to uphold faithfully any other obligations that custom, treaty or compact has instituted between the Ayasi and his Empire, and any given party.
Whether the obligations of allegiance and/or recognition of primacy, or any particular obligations whatever, have been violated, thus offending the majesty of the Ayasi, is necessarily for the determination of the aggrieved party, namely the Sovereign Ayasi, with particular note parties outside the sphere of the Ayasi as delimitated by treaty with the Karapeshai Exatai, the treaty pertaining to which, the Sovereign Ayasi has referenced in the summoning of the conference that is to occur in Bysria.
~ The Vastunintyardirnas (ooc: Assembly of the Keepers of Books, that is to say the group of Vastunintyar responsible for advising the Grandpatriarchate and others on canon and law)
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attached note:
Custom would dictate that the Hierarchy of Rulers, predicated in the paramountcy granted by the Church to the Ayasi and upon custom, would be as such within the Ayasi's paramountcy: excluding the far lands of the west (those regions which would come under the South), the heathens on the edge of the southern world, the powers on the eastern continent, and the Vithanama Empire (noting the ambiguity of their status) from this assessment. Members of the same rank (excluding individual members of the Sarafaio, who's status is held as a collective) are of equal status.
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Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
From: Veccis-ta-Veccai, Scribe of the Redeemer
To: All parties within and without the Karapeshai Exatai
Terrible, woeful day!
Talephas the Great, the Redeemer of the Karapeshai Exatai and Scion of Taleldil, is dead, murdered in the city of Tisatar by an assassin's blade. The culprit has confessed under torture to being an agent of the Kothari and Farubaida, and revealed that their aim is to destroy the Peace of Magha by killing the Redeemer and the Ayasi both.
Oh you, who would shrink from honest combat to pursue treachery in darkness, tremble at what is soon to come upon you!
The Scroll-Bearer Arteras has accepted the mantle of High Prince, though not of Redeemer, until such a time as a candidate with the greatest Exatas can be acclaimed. Surely this worthy prince will show his face in the combat to come.
We call upon Sixth-Frei to avenge this enormity by joining his forces with ours and ending the false treachery of Kargan and Metexares once and for all. Furthermore, we call upon all our allies and confederates of the North to join us in this mighty contest.
The Third Apocalypse our enemies so desperately wish for is upon us. But the Peace of Magha shall endure.
Revenge shall be ours.
To: All parties within and without the Karapeshai Exatai
Terrible, woeful day!
Talephas the Great, the Redeemer of the Karapeshai Exatai and Scion of Taleldil, is dead, murdered in the city of Tisatar by an assassin's blade. The culprit has confessed under torture to being an agent of the Kothari and Farubaida, and revealed that their aim is to destroy the Peace of Magha by killing the Redeemer and the Ayasi both.
Oh you, who would shrink from honest combat to pursue treachery in darkness, tremble at what is soon to come upon you!
The Scroll-Bearer Arteras has accepted the mantle of High Prince, though not of Redeemer, until such a time as a candidate with the greatest Exatas can be acclaimed. Surely this worthy prince will show his face in the combat to come.
We call upon Sixth-Frei to avenge this enormity by joining his forces with ours and ending the false treachery of Kargan and Metexares once and for all. Furthermore, we call upon all our allies and confederates of the North to join us in this mighty contest.
The Third Apocalypse our enemies so desperately wish for is upon us. But the Peace of Magha shall endure.
Revenge shall be ours.
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
Very sporting of them, to send Thlayli their assassination orders and causing him to believe they have a 100% chance of success, so that he doesn't even need to wait for the update to respond.
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To: All Parties immediately concerned with the death of Talephas the Redeemer
From: The Grand-Patriarchate in Opios
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Lamentations at the death of Talephas, who despite his error and antipathy towards the Church, was of undoubted exatas and was a man of great honour. But to those who grieve at his untimely passing, surely they are aware that confessions under torture are notoriously unreliable? It is known that criminals tend under corporal mortification to say whatever they think their accuser wants to hear in order to gain respite from pain. Thus considering the fact that the Lords of the Karapeshai have had dispute with the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida o Caroha of late (to the point of expressing warlike desire towards the same powers), what is to say that this assassin gave precisely such a false confession that is oft supplied by those mortified in the flesh, that he might gain respite for some little while before his certain, and just, execution.
This concern is pertinent furthermore, since on the face of it, it is quite anomalous for the Kothari Exatai or the Farubaida o Caroha, considering their stated interests and their actions towards the same in attempting to engender order, to assassinate the honourable Talephas (for surely if they had wanted war, why would they have bowed to the Ayasi and willingly agreed to the restoration of his lands? and surely they know the greatness and might of the Karapeshai?). Suspicion about the assasins confession also arises by the fact he said both powers sent him? Surely a single assassin would not be sent at the behest of two masters who's Lords hold court hundreds of miles away from each-other. If the two pertinent powers both had the same murderous intent surely they would have independently sent their own assasins (thus even if it is true that an assassin was sent, it would be more likely to be sent by only one power than by both collectively)? Why confess to being sent by two when it is most unlikely, unless of course it is a warped confession (accusing another power in addition to the one that sent him) or a false one.
The circumstances around this lamentable event thus surely dictate caution and due dilligence in response. Let the Karapeshai provide hard evidence for their claims, showing certain proof that the claims are not but the words of a man giving what his accusers wanted to hear either in full or in part. For if these claims are true than the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida (or one of those) and their sovereign authorities are guilty of a grave crime which necessarily would dictate a grave consequence, as the lamenting Lords of the North rightly note with their talk of war, for such a murder cannot go unpunished. Knowing the ravages of war, which the Ayasi and His Empire are well aware, moral duty to the commons and the thousands who have no part in any crime against the honourable Redeemer and who would be the ones to suffer such an apocalypse seems to us reason enough to stay the hand of vengeance, that the truth of the matter might be first determined with absolute clarity. Likewise, surely the law cannot be dispensed, the accused powers are as the Ayasi noted previously in the South, it behoves the Karapeshai to take council with the Lord of the South and not to intrude in haste into his paramountcy. Let the guilty party be found with certainty we urge, that all might be certain that the terrible punishment meted out upon them is just.
~ The Grand-Patriarch Etraxes.
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ooc: I think its legitimate for him to kill off Talephas by whatever means he wants, Talephas is his character afterall and what goes on in his Exatai with all its creative elements is his business. What he can't do obviously is make it fact (although he can try to frame it as such!) that you or Iggy did the deed (since you obviously control your own countries and what their sovereign authorites do) unless of course you (or one of you) actually ordered it.
From: The Grand-Patriarchate in Opios
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Lamentations at the death of Talephas, who despite his error and antipathy towards the Church, was of undoubted exatas and was a man of great honour. But to those who grieve at his untimely passing, surely they are aware that confessions under torture are notoriously unreliable? It is known that criminals tend under corporal mortification to say whatever they think their accuser wants to hear in order to gain respite from pain. Thus considering the fact that the Lords of the Karapeshai have had dispute with the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida o Caroha of late (to the point of expressing warlike desire towards the same powers), what is to say that this assassin gave precisely such a false confession that is oft supplied by those mortified in the flesh, that he might gain respite for some little while before his certain, and just, execution.
This concern is pertinent furthermore, since on the face of it, it is quite anomalous for the Kothari Exatai or the Farubaida o Caroha, considering their stated interests and their actions towards the same in attempting to engender order, to assassinate the honourable Talephas (for surely if they had wanted war, why would they have bowed to the Ayasi and willingly agreed to the restoration of his lands? and surely they know the greatness and might of the Karapeshai?). Suspicion about the assasins confession also arises by the fact he said both powers sent him? Surely a single assassin would not be sent at the behest of two masters who's Lords hold court hundreds of miles away from each-other. If the two pertinent powers both had the same murderous intent surely they would have independently sent their own assasins (thus even if it is true that an assassin was sent, it would be more likely to be sent by only one power than by both collectively)? Why confess to being sent by two when it is most unlikely, unless of course it is a warped confession (accusing another power in addition to the one that sent him) or a false one.
The circumstances around this lamentable event thus surely dictate caution and due dilligence in response. Let the Karapeshai provide hard evidence for their claims, showing certain proof that the claims are not but the words of a man giving what his accusers wanted to hear either in full or in part. For if these claims are true than the Kothari Exatai and the Farubaida (or one of those) and their sovereign authorities are guilty of a grave crime which necessarily would dictate a grave consequence, as the lamenting Lords of the North rightly note with their talk of war, for such a murder cannot go unpunished. Knowing the ravages of war, which the Ayasi and His Empire are well aware, moral duty to the commons and the thousands who have no part in any crime against the honourable Redeemer and who would be the ones to suffer such an apocalypse seems to us reason enough to stay the hand of vengeance, that the truth of the matter might be first determined with absolute clarity. Likewise, surely the law cannot be dispensed, the accused powers are as the Ayasi noted previously in the South, it behoves the Karapeshai to take council with the Lord of the South and not to intrude in haste into his paramountcy. Let the guilty party be found with certainty we urge, that all might be certain that the terrible punishment meted out upon them is just.
~ The Grand-Patriarch Etraxes.
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ooc: I think its legitimate for him to kill off Talephas by whatever means he wants, Talephas is his character afterall and what goes on in his Exatai with all its creative elements is his business. What he can't do obviously is make it fact (although he can try to frame it as such!) that you or Iggy did the deed (since you obviously control your own countries and what their sovereign authorites do) unless of course you (or one of you) actually ordered it.
Golden1Knight
Emperor
OOC: He may even have been murdered by someone of his own court, this person acting with the goal of getting a Casus Belli, and eventually also get the power.
A good reason to start a long and bloody war that will define the fate of many (but very interesting to witness
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Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
IC:
Of course we have further proof. The very weapon the Redeemer was killed with bears the imprint of a smith of Neruss. How fitting that the makers of the arrows which pierced Vespelai, the last Redeemer of the Ardavai, would craft a weapon to kill the greatest Redeemer of the Karapeshai.
Despite the Redeemer's mercy and desire to forgive, it is clear that the conspirators against the Order of the world will stop at nothing to prevent their unholy alliance from being made subject to the Ayasi's paramountcy, one that even their chief priest recognizes.
Of course we have further proof. The very weapon the Redeemer was killed with bears the imprint of a smith of Neruss. How fitting that the makers of the arrows which pierced Vespelai, the last Redeemer of the Ardavai, would craft a weapon to kill the greatest Redeemer of the Karapeshai.
Despite the Redeemer's mercy and desire to forgive, it is clear that the conspirators against the Order of the world will stop at nothing to prevent their unholy alliance from being made subject to the Ayasi's paramountcy, one that even their chief priest recognizes.
