Epic IOT I- The War to End them All

Mexico declares war on Austria-Hungry for their unlawful DoW on Serbia. May God bless those souls for whom the bell tolls.
 
I'm the lazy one? You're the one who didn't balance the game or write down all the rules, such as what constitutes as a colony or regular province. I have, what, 40 non-colonies and evidently useless islands for the rest of the game?
 
The Istanbul Inquirer

The Ottoman Empire is now at War!

Today, spokesmen for the Grand Vizier Said Halim Pasha and Sultan Mehmed V both revealed that the Ottoman army will be moving to attack the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Mehmed states "The war is entirely necessary to protect and promote trade." When asked why the Ottomans would not declare war on Serbia, the Grand Vizier's spokesman told us "It is not wise to align ourselves against the EAAP, the European Anti-Agressiveness Pact. If we fought the EAAP, we would assure our own destruction and restrict trade even more!" Neither spokesman has disclosed any information about Germany. However, Germany is not directly involved in this war and has not responded to Austro-Hungary's request. For more information about this war, and why cheese is not considered a cause of this war, turn to page 7.
 
You attacked Serbia.
 
Declared War on and Attacked on synonymous in IOTs pretty much.
 
Declared War on and Attacked on synonymous in IOTs pretty much.

So this is not justified:
Austria vs Serbia when Serbians killed the heir to the throne

But this is?
Austria vs Serbia when Serbians killed the heir to the throne

Serbian allies fighting against Austria:
Russia, Italy, Ottoman Empire, France, Mexico, Denmark
 
It is justified, however certain European want to keep peace. Just like Russia attacked in real life, Italy did instead. And since Italy was an ally of France and Denmark, it brought them and their allies in too. Its like how WWI started, except without Germany.

I have no clue why Mexico and the Ottomans declared war though.
 
It is justified, however certain European want to keep peace. Just like Russia attacked in real life, Italy did instead. And since Italy was an ally of France and Denmark, it brought them and their allies in too. Its like how WWI started, except without Germany.

I have no clue why Mexico and the Ottomans declared war though.
It's called dog piling a person that is roleplaying something that happened historically in the first year of the IOT and also accusing this said player of metagaming.
 
Not everyone wanted to dog pile you. Russia had legitimate reason to Declare War, and so did Italy. Italy then asked France and Denmark for help. Like I said, I have no clue why Mexico or the Ottomans declared war, I am only defending my actions.
 
Not everyone wanted to dog pile you. Russia had legitimate reason to Declare War, and so did Italy. Italy then asked France and Denmark for help. Like I said, I have no clue why Mexico or the Ottomans declared war, I am only defending my actions.
I don't understand either why the Ottomans would help a nation that stole territory from them just before the IOT started.

Sidenote: Serbia is a military dictatorship.
 
I don't understand either why the Ottomans would help a nation that stole territory from them just before the IOT started.

ooc: who stole my territory? according to the map in the signups, the Ottoman Empire only extended to Istanbul/Thrace. See? The Balkans are independent.
Spoiler :
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I only attacked because I knew I would be dragged in anyway, and I wanted to not be destroyed.
 
ooc: who stole my territory? according to the map in the signups, the Ottoman Empire only extended to Istanbul/Thrace. See? The Balkans are independent.
Spoiler :
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I only attacked because I knew I would be dragged in anyway, and I wanted to not be destroyed.

OOC: The Balkan wars in 1912/13 kicked the Ottomans out of Europe.
 
occ: I know, but Gem made it sound like Serbia claimed land inside my empire before I claimed it.
 
I don't understand either why the Ottomans would help a nation that stole territory from them just before the IOT started.

OOC: I read that as "Serbia took it from the Ottomans before they had a chance to claim it. So why should they help Serbia?" I probably misunderstood you, though.

IC: The Ottoman emperor declares that the war against Austria is partly because of trade and partly because the Ottomans failed the first time to take the country over. Now, when Austria is fighting on all sides, is the time to strike.
 
OOC: I read that as "Serbia took it from the Ottomans before they had a chance to claim it. So why should they help Serbia?" I probably misunderstood you, though.
It is exactly as I had stated: I don't understand why the Ottomans would help a nation that stole territory from them just before the IOT started."


READ IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
One last thing: Real-life alliances and grudges don't exist yet, so the French can ally with the Germans, and so on.

OOC: I don't have to hate Serbia, because I don't want to.

Me said:
the Ottomans failed the first time to take the country over. Now, when Austria is fighting on all sides, is the time to strike

OOC: I can attack Austria, because I want to. Austria is going to be weakened by all this fighting, so I will fight, too. To be honest, I have more historical reason to attack Austria in this case then Mexico does. And I don't really want to help Austria because I will be crushed. Problem?
 
OOC: I don't have to hate Serbia, because I don't want to.



OOC: I can attack Austria, because I want to. Austria is going to be weakened by all this fighting, so I will fight, too. To be honest, I have more historical reason to attack Austria in this case then Mexico does. And I don't really want to help Austria because I will be crushed. Problem?
No. I was only trying to get you to try to understand the point of that post which you now do.
 
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