Esnaz's Mod

[esnaz]

One more thing: are the Geats the same as the Goths? Several sources say yes, some say no. What does the Civfanatics community willing to post here say?

 

[Fierabras]

I would say no, although they might have originated from the same region. Most likely the names are closely linked. This reminds me of the question if the Huns are the same as Hsiung-nu.

As I see it, the Goths (and also the Huns) only became the Goths when they arrived at the borders of the classical western empires.

In the civ game your civilization originates from a fixed spot, your first city. In real world history it is not so clear with migrating peoples.

 

[esnaz]

I would say no, although they might have originated from the same region. Most likely the names are closely linked. This reminds me of the question if the Huns are the same as Hsiung-nu.

As I see it, the Goths (and also the Huns) only became the Goths when they arrived at the borders of the classical western empires.

In the civ game your civilization originates from a fixed spot, your first city. In real world history it is not so clear with migrating peoples.

Although the Goths did live in several areas for long periods of time. They set up cities in those areas, but lack of sources, not lack of settlement, are the cause for the scarcity of cities.

 

[Fierabras]

Although the Goths did live in several areas for long periods of time. They set up cities in those areas, but lack of sources, not lack of settlement, are the cause for the scarcity of cities.

Ok, but my point was that they migrated and not expanded from their first settlement like other "civilizations" such as Rome. So, returning to the original question: are the Geats the same as the Goths?

Maybe they were once one people, but the Goths became the Goths when they "settled" near ancient Greece and by that time they were distinct from the Geats, by location mostly.

 

[esnaz]

Ok, but my point was that they migrated and not expanded from their first settlement like other "civilizations" such as Rome. So, returning to the original question: are the Geats the same as the Goths?

Maybe they were once one people, but the Goths became the Goths when they "settled" near ancient Greece and by that time they were distinct from the Geats, by location mostly.

Ah, okay, I was confused by the phrasing

By the way, if anyone has any requests or suggestions for other versions, let me know and I'll be happy to implement them into the mod!

 

[esnaz]

I have just posted a Robert the Bruce LH (see my sig) that will be featured in the v2 of my mod

 

[Nez477]

Downloading now, will be my first mod, will be fun to get some additional civ's in there

I'll let you know if I run into any problems!

 

[Nez477]

QUick question...

If I wanted to download Civ Gold and use his 23 civs as well, is there a way to combine yours and his into one mod?

Just curious as this is REALLY new territory for me.... I've been playing Civ for like 10 years and have never worked with mods before

Thanks!

 

[esnaz]

QUick question...

If I wanted to download Civ Gold and use his 23 civs as well, is there a way to combine yours and his into one mod?

Just curious as this is REALLY new territory for me.... I've been playing Civ for like 10 years and have never worked with mods before

Thanks!

No, not easily if you aren't acquainted with XML. My mod is modular, but CIV Gold 3.0 isn't. If it was, it might take a little bit of work for the diplomacy and audio files, but not that much..

 

[Fierabras]

BTS CIV Gold 3.0 (to be released very, very soon) is modular, as is the beta version, and contains 36 added civs. Apart from the possible merging of Diplomacy and Audio there is some overlap with added civs between these 2 modpacks.

 

[Nez477]

Played about 4 hours last night with Isreal, and had Ireland right next to me

Both looked fantastic, the music for Ireland was subtle and about perfect... looked through the Civiliopedia, I was really impressed with some of the civs

Overall was really enjoying it, thanks Esnaz

 

[esnaz]

Played about 4 hours last night with Isreal, and had Ireland right next to me

Both looked fantastic, the music for Ireland was subtle and about perfect... looked through the Civiliopedia, I was really impressed with some of the civs

Overall was really enjoying it, thanks Esnaz

Thanks, nice to see you enjoyed it!

 

[esnaz]

What do you mean by:

merging of Diplomacy and Audio

?

 

[JuliusAugustus]

you did a terrible job of editing the leader heads

 

[Vrenir]

That was not very nice. Sure, some of the leaderheads aren't great, but some of them like Yagan are really quite exquisite.

 

[Amra]

Generally, people who complain about how bad something is are incapable of doing better and they expect something that is perfect for free. Don't let it bother you esnaz, you did a fine job.

 

[esnaz]

you did a terrible job of editing the leader heads

Usually, if people aren't satisfied with the creations of another, they either don't say it meanly or offer constructive criticism such as "use this model instead" or "your textures aren't detailed enough." Nasty comments just spoil your reputation and annoy the creator and others and I don't appreciate them.

Generally, people who complain about how bad something is are incapable of doing better and they expect something that is perfect for free. Don't let it bother you esnaz, you did a fine job.

Thanks. I agree with that statement

 

[Agent327]

I for one think the leaderheads look just fine!

 

[Fierabras]

What do you mean by: merging of Diplomacy and Audio?

If you want to combine modular mods, you have to merge/update your Audio and/or Diplomacy XML (and other non-modular parts) one way or the other. I did not mean merging Audio with Diplomacy.

 

[esnaz]

If you want to combine modular mods, you have to merge/update your Audio and/or Diplomacy XML (and other non-modular parts) one way or the other. I did not mean merging Audio with Diplomacy.

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