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Yoda Power

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im so tired of the all the american treads, so heres an european one. I have a question what do you think of the EU, please explain.
 
The EU is the western mau tze tong - it destroyes the economy it controlls, yet people still believe in it.
 
Well put. The European Union is well on it's way to becoming a totalitarian organization, similar to the Soviet Politburo.
 
The EU?

The beginings of a unified continent, curently only an economic union, but the foundation of a United States of Europe.

It has promise, but it seems the southern and eastern states don't always feel equal in the union.
 
The E.U. should be neutralized before it does more harm than good, yet it's too late.

This 'union' has been overrun by commies who are stuck in a bureaucracy of unprecedented proportions.
One's said it before, but one believes wholeheartedly in the notion that the E.U. was partially created to deter American 'aggression' following the end of the Marshall Aid. Another reason; some French and German socialists believe that war in Europe could be averted if Europe was united and became a single entity. That's a naive and laughable assumption, which has been proven false many times since the creation of this monstrous bureaucracy.

Thousands of Europeans have been killed on European soil, yet these countries are not even a part of this 'harmonious union'. You can't create a union and then call it the 'European Union', if some countries are relinquished.

It's a nice little dream, though, Europeans living in peaceful harmony, but it will continue to remain a distant collective illusion.
It should have remained a great capitalist trade alliance, not a striving towards 'uniting' Europe and impose the same laws etc. on each country. Europe consists of too many different etnical entities that uniting them in a union controlled by the French and German socialists simply can't work. Europe can't compete with the United States anywhere in the future, if it continues to lie on socialist foundations and creeds.

Disband it immediately, just like the U.N. ought to be disbanded too.
 
Originally posted by nixon
The E.U. should be neutralized before it does more harm than good, yet it's too late.

This 'union' has been overrun by commies who are stuck in a bureaucracy of unprecedented proportions.
One's said it before, but one believes wholeheartedly in the notion that the E.U. was partially created to deter American 'aggression' following the end of the Marshall Aid. Another reason; some French and German socialists believe that war in Europe could be averted if Europe was united and become a single entity. That's a naive and laughable assumption, which has been proved many times since the creation of this monstrous bureaucracy.

Thousands of Europeans have been killed on European soil, yet these countries are not even a part of this 'harmonious union'. You can't create a union and then call it the 'European Union', if some countries relinquished.

It's a nice little dream, though, Europeans living in peaceful harmony, but it will continue to remain a distant collective illusion.
It should have remained a great capitalist trade alliance, not a striving towards 'uniting' Europe and impose the same laws etc. on each country. Europe consists of too many different etnical entities that uniting them in a union controlled by the French and German socialists simply can't work. Europe can't compete with the United States anywhere in the future, if it continues to lie on socialist foundations and creeds.

Disband it immediately, just like the U.N. ought to be disbanded too.

This absolutely disgusts me, how you say such things.
 
Originally posted by Ohwell
This absolutely disgusts me, how you say such things.

I guess I will disgust you by agreeing with virtually all of it. The EU is a dangerous institution. It represents an incremental takeover by foriegn forces, only the foreigners are all domestic to another part of the Union.

Free trade in Europe is a good idea. It worked well when that's what it was. "Managed trade," a common currency and other policies executed by a bunch of bureaucrats from countries with different economies, expectations, aspirations and systems of government is a recipe for lousy accountability and political disaster.

If Europe wanted to unify under a real unitary parliament, that would be another thing entirely: but Europe doesn't want that, so it's getting the worst of both worlds: institutions with a built-in incentive to centralize without the accountability needed to make such centralization work. It won't be good for competition with the rest of the world, and it won't be good for Europe either in the long run.

A sad thing, really.
 
Well, Yoda Power, I suppose that you should be a little sad to see that there is nearly only Americans that are posting in this European thread ^^

This absolutely disgusts me, how you say such things.

Because he is a fascist still living in the McCarthist era. Don't pay any attention to him.
 
So you want people in here to pay attention to a red monstrosity, but simply because you fail to hide your infirmities, that doesn't mean you are to force upon the people, the absurd and twisted red hallucinations of your amiss upper story.

Do relieve us from your rueful unavailing insults. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by nixon
So you want people in here to pay attention to a red monstrosity, but simply because you fail to hide your infirmities, that doesn't mean you are to force upon the people, the absurd and twisted red hallucinations of your amiss upper story.

Do relieve us from your rueful unavailing insults. :rolleyes:

:yawn:
You should see a doctor about this red thing. You see it everywhere and it seems to be the good excuse for anyhting.

Well, at least it's enjoybale in a way, it reminds me the good ol' propaganda that florished in the WW2 and the 50s.
 
Originally posted by Akka


:yawn:
You should see a doctor about this red thing. You see it everywhere and it seems to be the good excuse for anyhting.

Well, at least it's enjoybale in a way, it reminds me the good ol' propaganda that florished in the WW2 and the 50s.

Akka: I believe he is talking about communism. But if he is...I think that is a slightly anachronistic belief.

CG
 
And one suggests you go see a doctor about your massive hemorrhoids, you obviously have some sort of major malfunction.

One does not use 'red scare' as in the 1950s, moreover one doesn't think the McCarthy was a particularly great man.

Too soft. :p :evil:
 
Originally posted by cgannon64


Akka: I believe he is talking about communism. But if he is...I think that is a slightly anachronistic belief.

CG

He sees anything left to Pinochet as a commie, which help in seeing the "red menace" everywhere.
 
hmmm.......nixon, nixon, nixon......if you can get past your commie paranoia, I think your life will be much better for you.

But on a different note, my opinions on the EU.

Enlargement could be a good thing, because it will force the EU to a crossroads. It can either intensely reform itself until it is democratic, or lose its significance.
 
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