Facebook

[Snerk]

People still use Facebook? Instagram and Twitter are where all the cool kids are now.

The cool kids are indeed long gone but the rest of us are mostly still using it.

 

[uppi]

Was it not against policy for the app to scrape the data from people who didn't use the app?

As far as I understand it, it is now, but it wasn't really back then when the data was scraped.

 

[Cutlass]

I'm just going to steal from reddit.

Russia is deeply embedded into Facebook.

In 2009, Russian social-media mogul Yuri Milner invested $200 million into Facebook at a valuation of $10 billion dollars without voting rights or a seat on the board. To understand this investment, at the time the world was going through a global recession and Facebook's general valuation had dropped from the $15 billion from the year prior to $4-$6 billion in 2009.

https://www.cnet.com/news/facebooks-valuation-the-cheat-sheet/

One company did offer a valuation of $8 billion, but with a seat on the board, which Zuckerberg was strongly against. In other words, Yuri Milner invested in Facebook when they were strapped for cash and at an inflated price without voting rights or a seat on the board. That's an amazing deal for Zuckerberg!

Here's Yuri Milner and Mark Zuckerberg hanging out for an interview: https://techcrunch.com/2009/05/26/m...er-talk-about-facebooks-new-investment-video/

The deal was coordinated by Alisher B. Usmanov, a Russian oligarch that earned his fortune managing steel mill subsidiaries for Gazprom.

Usmanov spent six years in prison for fraud and embezzlement in the 80's.

In 2008, Usmanov fired a publisher and editor at one of Russia's most respected news paper after it published detailed accounts of Russian election fraud.

It is said, "His ties to the Kremlin and Facebook have stirred concerns that he might influence the company’s policies in subtle ways to appease governments in markets where Facebook is also an important tool of political dissent, such as Russia." This was in 2009.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/16/technology/a-russian-facebook-bet-pays-off-big.html

Usmanov is close friends with Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alisher_Usmanov

Ivanka Trump and Wendi Deng are good friends with Abramovich's then wife, Dasha Zhoukova. Here they are watching a tennis match.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rlie-Kloss-Wendi-Deng-Murdoch-watch-Open.html

The leak of the Paradise Papers revealed the money Yuri Milner used to invest into Facebook came from Gazprom, a US sanctioned Russian oil and gas company, at one point owning 9% of the company.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what...-facebook-yuri-milner-facebook-twitter-russia

Soon after, Zuckerberg and Milner became friends, meeting monthly:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zuckerberg-got-early-business-advice-194957335.html

And even spoke together in November 2015 at the 2016 Breakthrough Prize Ceremony.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what...-facebook-yuri-milner-facebook-twitter-russia

In May 2012, Milner attended Zuckerberg's wedding. In 2014, Milner moved to California home he paid 100% above value on.

http://time.com/5011000/paradise-papers-tax-havens-leak/

For those who aren't familiar with Gazprom, Gazprom financed the spy ring that in 2013 tried to recruit Trump Advisor Carter Page before being broken up by the FBI. One of the spies trying to recruit Page said of Page, "He got hooked on Gazprom."

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/04...iser-carter-page-and-thought-he-was-an-idiot/

Around the time Yuri Milner was investing in Facebook, they lost their CFO Gideon Yu. Reason given: Facebook wanted a CFO with public company experience, suggesting they were thinking of an IPO at the time of Milner's investment (the reason given was deemed nonsensical).

https://techcrunch.com/2009/03/31/confirmed-facebook-loses-cfo-gideon-yu/

Yuri Milner's DST was one of the big winners over Facebook's botched IPO.

https://www.ft.com/content/281a8420-a46e-11e1-a701-00144feabdc0

When Facebook was confronted about the fake news epidemic on Facebook and it's influence on the election, he said it was "crazy."

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-zuckerberg-russians-20170929-story.html

When Facebook put out a report in April 2017, it conspicuously left out any mention of Russia:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...sia-references-from-report-on-disinformation/

US political ads were at times paid for by rubles:

http://thehill.com/policy/technolog...book-for-accepting-rubles-for-us-election-ads

Facebook had "embeds" into the Trump campaign working with Brad Parscale, Trumps digital director.

https://mashable.com/2017/10/10/facebook-responds-embeds-trump-campaign-60-minutes/#BrZIcKnffGqw

Based on Kushner's quotes, these "embeds" may have worked closely with Cambridge Anayltica:

“We found that Facebook and digital targeting were the most effective ways to reach the audiences. After the primary, we started ramping up because we knew that doing a national campaign is different than doing a primary campaign. That was when we formalized the system because we had to ramp up for digital fundraising. We brought in Cambridge Analytica. I called some of my friends from Silicon Valley who were some of the best digital marketers in the world. And I asked them how to scale this stuff."

Here's a video explaining just that: @2:37

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine...uru-who-helped-donald-trump-to-the-presidency

Theresa Wong from the Trump campaign says that people from Facebook, Google, and Youtube "...were helping us... They were basically our hands-on partners..."

In the video above, Theresa Wong from the Trump campaign says, "Without Facebook, we wouldn't have won." (@4:21)

For those who aren't familiar, Cambridge Analytica was communicating with Julian Assange about Hillary Clinton's and DNC's stolen emails. So was Don Jr. Michael Flynn, who pled guilty to lying to the FBI, also had an advisory role at Cambridge Analytica.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/04/michael-flynn-cambridge-analytica-disclosure

Zuckerberg admitted there was overlap between Russia ads and the Trump Campaign.

http://www.techheadlines.us/faceboo...een-russia-ads-and-president-trumps-campaign/

Facebook recommended Russian propaganda to users:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/25/fac...-software-recommended-russian-propaganda.html

Facebook helped Agata Burdonova, who was a manager at the IRA (Russian Troll Factory) that meddled in the US 2016 elections, and her husband, Dmitry Fyodorov, immigrate to Seattle Washington. Burdonova's husband has received a job offer from Facebook.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kevincollier/a-former-manager-at-the-russian-troll-factory-is-now-living

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/967559297516425217/photo/1

Yuri Milner made these investments into Facebook with the help of Jared Kushner's friend and old classmate Ryan Williams. Yuri Milner also invested in Cadre, a company co-founded by Ryan Williams, Jared Kushner, and his brother Josh Kushner. However, Jared Kushner conveniently failed to disclose his ownership of the company. Milner's investment is likely through Gazprom as well.

http://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-white-house-forms-omissions-cadre-millions-679231

https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/10/13594558/mark-zuckerberg-election-fake-news-trump

Guess who's friend's with both Mark Zuckerberg and Yuri Milner? Suspected Chinese agent and Vladimir Putin love interest Wendi Deng Murdoch.

Wendi Deng introduced her then husband Rupert Murdoch to Mark Zuckerberg:

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jun/13/rupert-murdoch-divorce-wendi-deng

Yuri Milner and Wendi Deng attended a Time 100 Gala together in New York, April 2016.

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Yuri+Milner/2016+Time+100+Gala+Time+Most+Influential+People/quud6cf3as-

Here's Wendy Deng with Yuri Milner's wife and Karlie Kloss, who's dating Josh Kushner, Jared Kushner's brother.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/...ith-wife-of-russian-entrepreneur-yuri-milner/

Wendi Deng also hosted a dinner that included Jared Kushner, Josh Kushner, and Ryan Williams, amongst others.

https://www.vogue.com/article/businesswoman-wendi-murdoch-career-profile

Wendi Deng is know as a match-maker to her friends and actually helped reunite Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner after a break up, eventually leading to marriage. Wendi Deng may be the link between Yuri Milner with Zuckerberg, as well as with the Kushners, and Ryan Williams.

Wendi Deng was spotted on Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich's yacht several times.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...band-Rupert-Murdoch-tied-knot-Jerry-Hall.html

Wendi Deng introduced Ivanka Trump to Dasha Zhoukova, then wife of Roman Abramovich.

Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner met at a business lucheon led by Abramovich associate Lev Leviev. At the time, Lev Leviev was hosting the bris for the grandson of Tamir Sapir, who's daughter Zina Sapir married Lev Leviev's Africa-Israel US CEO Roten Rosen. Trump, just months priors, hosted Zina Sapir and Roten Rosem's wedding at Mar-a-Lago.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2008/05/highprofile_bris_on_sunday_you.html

The Sapir Organization, in conjunction with Bayrock and the Trump Organization, put together the scandal-ridden Trump SoHo and were working together to replicate that with a Trump Tower Moscow.

https://therealdeal.com/2013/11/12/the-donald-sapir-execs-mull-bringing-trump-soho-to-moscow/

In 2000, Abramovich and Oleg Deripaska, along with others, made a deal that ended the "Aluminum wars" and turned the industry into a near monopoly.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/jul/06/russia.football

Oleg Deripaska and Alisher Usmanov have been business ties together.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...ou-doing-in-a-steelworks-like-this-65258.html

https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/co...cebook_movement_gains_steam_after_50/dvz4y6o/


In short. destroy facebook at any cost.

 

[Hehehe]

Relevant, from another thread:

Standard operating procedure for me…

Now, seriously, I always enter FB/Google/other sites from private windows and they get to leave no cookies. I never enter newspapers/news sites in one same browser session as the one I entered Google/FB with.
I never enter FB/Google (again!) with cellphones.
If at all possible I don't ever login to any site from anywhere.

People are just handing these people their highly valuable information when it wouldn't cost them anything to block that. Common sense really might not be that common a sense.

Mate, I see what you did there but you don't even understand the basics. Did you change your MAC adress? IP address? Browser fingerprint? Do you even know what those things are?

If they got your name and phone number (say, from your friends phone) they can cross check that. Have you ever used that same number on Twitter/Facebook/Youtube/Steam verification/email verification/online shopping account? If yes, then they can connect it to you. If you've used any of those services, then they've got your IP address, MAC address and browser fingerprint. So imagine, for example, that someone with your browser fingerprint has visited an adult entertainment site dedicated to busty asian ladies. They can connect that to you, and you will get ads for busty asian ladies. And if any of those accounts (Twitter/Facebook/Youtube/Steam account/email verification) yields any useful information (user names, emails, password hashes), they'll crosscheck that too. The system is complicated, but essentially they know everything you've ever done online. A private window does nothing.

 

[Takhisis]

That they're using it as a "news aggregator" is likely to be more accurate. I "follow" a bunch of different media outlets on Facebook, but all those media outlets are my real news sources, not Facebook.

Yes, well, most people cannot tell between an aggregator, a portal, and an actual newspaper.

 

[Takhisis]

phone number

No phone. Ever. And adult entertainment sites… I happen to think that ‘adult entertainment’ is only meant for people who are not really adults.

 

[Synobun]

No phone. Ever. And adult entertainment sites… I happen to think that ‘adult entertainment’ is only meant for people who are not really adults.

Says the guy who linked to furry porn a while ago here on this very site.

 

[Takhisis]

That is not furry porn, although, to avoid repeating a certain incident, this time I won't say that you cannot masturbate to such imagery.

 

[Hehehe]

No phone. Ever. And adult entertainment sites… I happen to think that ‘adult entertainment’ is only meant for people who are not really adults.

That was just an example, if say, they got your phone number and name from your friend's Facebook. As for adult entertainment, that was just an example. They know everything you've ever done online. Maybe you've got nothing to hide, but some people might

 

[Takhisis]

Everyone has something to hide, but the whole point of it is that those things are never discussed in a digital format.

 

[Lexicus]

That is not furry porn, although, to avoid repeating a certain incident, this time I won't say that you cannot masturbate to such imagery.

The best definition of pornography I've ever seen is the tvtropes one, "any media in which you immediately lose interest after masturbating"

 

[Archbob]

Personally, I don't really care. They can have all the data they have on me, I don't care if they know how old I am or who my Ex is, doesn't really matter to me. FB is still a good way to keep in touch with old friends and keep up with church events. I have nothing to hide on facebook.

 

[Zelig]

Mate, I see what you did there but you don't even understand the basics. Did you change your MAC adress? IP address? Browser fingerprint? Do you even know what those things are?

If they got your name and phone number (say, from your friends phone) they can cross check that. Have you ever used that same number on Twitter/Facebook/Youtube/Steam verification/email verification/online shopping account? If yes, then they can connect it to you. If you've used any of those services, then they've got your IP address, MAC address and browser fingerprint. So imagine, for example, that someone with your browser fingerprint has visited an adult entertainment site dedicated to busty asian ladies. They can connect that to you, and you will get ads for busty asian ladies. And if any of those accounts (Twitter/Facebook/Youtube/Steam account/email verification) yields any useful information (user names, emails, password hashes), they'll crosscheck that too. The system is complicated, but essentially they know everything you've ever done online. A private window does nothing.

Websites certainly don't have your MAC address.

IP address and browser fingerprint aren't particular relevant if you don't contact Facebook servers except for when accessing facebook.com.

Twitter/youtube/random other facebook competitors certainly don't share your phone number with facebook.

You seem to be conflating bitter rivals (Facebook and Google), and ascribing magical abilities to website operators.

 

[Commodore]

I'm just going to steal from reddit.





https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/co...cebook_movement_gains_steam_after_50/dvz4y6o/


In short. destroy facebook at any cost.

Destroy Facebook at any cost? And here I thought it was the right in the US that was still gripped with Cold War paranoia.

It never ceases to be funny to me that all it took was for Hillary to lose an election to turn the left in the US from mostly rational people to "OMGZ, TEH RUSSIANZZZ!!!!" tinfoil hat wearers.

 

[Cutlass]

Destroy Facebook at any cost? And here I thought it was the right in the US that was still gripped with Cold War paranoia.

It never ceases to be funny to me that all it took was for Hillary to lose an election to turn the left in the US from mostly rational people to "OMGZ, TEH RUSSIANZZZ!!!!" tinfoil hat wearers.

It's not even about the Russians. It's about liberty. And it's about property. Things conservatives know nothing about.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Facebook...

 

[Commodore]

It's not even about the Russians. It's about liberty. And it's about property.

What liberty and property has been taken from you?

 

[Cutlass]

What liberty and property has been taken from you?

The liberty to control your own property, for one. The right to privacy, which has been accepted as an American constitutional right. And my info is my property. If someone else is taking and selling it, that's robbery.

 

[uppi]

IP address and browser fingerprint aren't particular relevant if you don't contact Facebook servers except for when accessing facebook.com.

The problem is that you are contacting Facebook servers all the time via the Like button on third-party websites (unless you take special measures against it).

 

[hobbsyoyo]

These hipsters think they're hardcore by just deleting their facebook page. I took more direct action:

Spoiler :

Amos-6 was primarily leased to Facebook when we blew it up.