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[to_xp]Gekko
QCT junkie
well, since you think that doviello need something... you could borrow the changes from Orbis, they're pretty damn flavourful there 
Fall Flat Release
- Thread starter Iceciro
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Was I supposed to delete the old mod before installing the new one?
The new shortcut directs to a new directory for RC5, while the mod actually installed itself to the old directory of RC3.
Not a major thing at all, but thought I might point it out.
The new shortcut directs to a new directory for RC5, while the mod actually installed itself to the old directory of RC3.
Not a major thing at all, but thought I might point it out.
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
Yeah, I do that to prevent mod pollution if I revert changes or anything.
It also lets you continue savegames if you have a desperate ache to. Otherwise it's no big deal t delete the old RC3 directory.
It also lets you continue savegames if you have a desperate ache to. Otherwise it's no big deal t delete the old RC3 directory.
Haerzog
Warlord
My Jotnar cities are unable to grow past population level 8, they just keep recirculating. I heard that they stopped at 10. Not so? And the Jotnar worker doesn't gain xp, as you know. Also, is there an Archer equivalent in the Jotnar? Because they should at least have somebody that can hurl boulders at other things beside city walls.
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
It was originally 10, was changed to 8 without updating the documentation.
The Jotnar worker is a known bug. It actually DOES gain xp, it just can't take any promotions to spend it on.
No, there is no archer equivalent as far as I know. However, all Giants are able to bombard defenses, even workers.
The Jotnar worker is a known bug. It actually DOES gain xp, it just can't take any promotions to spend it on.
No, there is no archer equivalent as far as I know. However, all Giants are able to bombard defenses, even workers.
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
Please direct all Jotnar related issues to one of the appropriate threads - I've done no work on them in Fall Flat and therefore any issues you have with them are not limited to Fall Flat.
Not to say I won't be looking at balancing them eventually, but right now they're kind of a novelty in Flat - part of the reason AIs cannot play them.
Not to say I won't be looking at balancing them eventually, but right now they're kind of a novelty in Flat - part of the reason AIs cannot play them.
Vermicious Knid
King
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Is it still OK to lobby for including the Orbis Doviello changes?
If so, consider yourself lobbied.
DavidB1111
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Just a couple of questions. Will this work with the latest version?
Oh, and what's with this.
*Korinna is now Agnostic, and can build the Temple of the Gift and the Scion preist unit line. The Risen Emperor can still not construct the Vacant Mausoleum.
Stop mocking me! Seriously, I'd like to play as a religion leader someday as the Scions, and it doesn't really make sense that The Risen Emperor isn't the only anti-religion person in the group...
Really, it boils down to the Agnostic trait is a bit on the Fail side, it's just mind numbing broken and useless...and makes no sense. Also, it will never change unless Kael is susceptible to bribes.
But I've argued that point too much.
As it stands, I don't see why every member of their race has to be agnostic, let alone their leaders..
I mean, I didn't think I was playing around with Uber Nietzsche.
Oh, and what's with this.
*Korinna is now Agnostic, and can build the Temple of the Gift and the Scion preist unit line. The Risen Emperor can still not construct the Vacant Mausoleum.
Stop mocking me!
Seriously, I'd like to play as a religion leader someday as the Scions, and it doesn't really make sense that The Risen Emperor isn't the only anti-religion person in the group...Really, it boils down to the Agnostic trait is a bit on the Fail side, it's just mind numbing broken and useless...and makes no sense. Also, it will never change unless Kael is susceptible to bribes.
But I've argued that point too much.
As it stands, I don't see why every member of their race has to be agnostic, let alone their leaders..
I mean, I didn't think I was playing around with Uber Nietzsche.
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
Xivan T'nava is a new leader for the Scions (among others) and he can follow a standard religion.
Korinna got access to the full Scion lineup in exchange - all of the units that she used to be locked off from.
Korinna got access to the full Scion lineup in exchange - all of the units that she used to be locked off from.
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Xivan is not agnostic, and can adopt any religion. Only Scion leader if Fall Flat able to do so.
Edit: Damn, Iceciro beat me.
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
I'm actually trying to decide whether to lock him off from the standard Scion religious units - but using them to snag Reborn is pretty important, so *shrugs* not sure.
DavidB1111
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Hmm. Fair enough. I just don't think it balances it out at all. Nuking Religion in order to get Religion units doesn't quite form a logical connection...
I dare say even the full range of units is kind of a loss when you notice how hard it is for Agnostics to get money.
Can't switch a religion, you're stuck with low units until 40 dungeons spawn gold. Or, spamming great merchants...
That's another reason why said Agnostic is broken. Not to mention the whole useless naming. It's not Agnosticism, I'll tell you that much.
I'm aware unless I bribe Kael, it will never change, I just, I don't know, I find that insulting, I guess, considering I'm Agnostic. And I wouldn't be such a jerk to my kingdom...like some...with the exception of Cassiel anyway. Human/Angels would know.
I dare say even the full range of units is kind of a loss when you notice how hard it is for Agnostics to get money.
Can't switch a religion, you're stuck with low units until 40 dungeons spawn gold.
Or, spamming great merchants...That's another reason why said Agnostic is broken. Not to mention the whole useless naming. It's not Agnosticism, I'll tell you that much.
I'm aware unless I bribe Kael, it will never change, I just, I don't know, I find that insulting, I guess, considering I'm Agnostic. And I wouldn't be such a jerk to my kingdom...like some...with the exception of Cassiel anyway. Human/Angels would know.
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
Yeah, I went over the whole Agnostic/Intolerant trait name scheme on these forums long before I started modding - I think somebody beat me over the head with a dictionary definition and won, though.
In any case what Agnostic seems to mean in this game is "Has their own religion" except for Cassiel who's the only real agnostic in the game. Khad worships Oghma(Mammon) the Scions have their own religion, etc.
I could change the name for everybody but Cassie, but I have effort to be directed elsewhere.
I've never had any trouble making money as the Scions - remember, you don't have to work any food tiles. Any. You can have entire cities that do nothing but work tiles and tiles of cottages covered in Haunted Lands for 7 commerce each.
In any case what Agnostic seems to mean in this game is "Has their own religion" except for Cassiel who's the only real agnostic in the game. Khad worships Oghma(Mammon) the Scions have their own religion, etc.
I could change the name for everybody but Cassie, but I have effort to be directed elsewhere.
I've never had any trouble making money as the Scions - remember, you don't have to work any food tiles. Any. You can have entire cities that do nothing but work tiles and tiles of cottages covered in Haunted Lands for 7 commerce each.
DavidB1111
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Whoops. I forgot about Haunted Lands. Of course, My Korina is like Red, instead of Black, so I don't know how to cast the freaky spell.
I'll keep that in mind though. Yeah, now deserts are useful.
I'll keep that in mind though. Yeah, now deserts are useful.
Valkrionn
The Hamster King
Scion Ranger UU or Druid UU can both spread Haunted Lands. There should actually be a concept section about it in the 'pedia.
Haerzog
Warlord
I think that the conditions by which you can acquire the Risen Emperor as a unit should be explicitly specified in the unit card. From what I can only guess, he is only available if you play Scions as Korinna leader. I can understand his not being available for the usurper, but then that means that he and Korinna can never be in the same game as a unit, since I also guess that you cannot play with him and play as him. Is this right?
Iceciro
Special Ability: Decimate
Yeah... I should really give him a help text flag somewhere that states his requirements.
He comes into play for free (as an event) once you've built the Vacant Mausoleum, but only for Korrina the Protector (who doesn't get herself as a hero.)
He comes into play for free (as an event) once you've built the Vacant Mausoleum, but only for Korrina the Protector (who doesn't get herself as a hero.)
