Favorite type of NES?

[Symphony D.]

Since nukes keep getting brought up I just want to say that honestly, until 1970+ in any vaguely historical althist, or history, the only people who have them are the UNSC members, and only two of those in any disastrously high quantity. Any mod worth their weight will pick those two players carefully, and will similarly take steps to prevent those players from irrationally using their weapons. After 1970+ at best a handful more of countries have them and most of them are capable of only using them in an effectively tactical fashion.

So, really, all this talk about no war and blah blah blah is out of place.

The main danger of nukes isn't games that start with them (in which the situation has usually stabilized), it's games that are immediately before their development (ie: 1920s to 1930s); that's where ugly situations like NES2 I and NES2 III come from, because then a given player is free to unrealistically race for the bomb and deploy it against whomever.

Once you're beyond that point and two or more entities have weapons it's really a non-factor, and in fact helps promote and encourage diplomacy among the superpowers, while forcing intrigue and roundabout ways of doing business and leaving the smaller powers to fight, instead of the "Lets form two giant coalitions centered on the first and second largest powers and try and beat the snot out of each other in total war for world supremacy" scenario which tends to develop out of industrial games.

 

[silver 2039]

Earth based alt-history or OTL from knights to beyond.

 

[Dachs]

Any mod worth their weight will pick those two players carefully, and will similarly take steps to prevent those players from irrationally using their weapons.

Since when are those the people running the game?

So, really, all this talk about no war and blah blah blah is out of place.

I never said anything about "no war" - clearly that's silly, what with the many, many OTL examples - but I would be annoyed were a superpower war to break out almost immediately that goes nuclear with the game ending in a bunch of gray circles or however you denote it in the first few updates.

Once you're beyond that point and two or more entities have weapons it's really a non-factor, and in fact helps promote and encourage diplomacy among the superpowers, while forcing intrigue and roundabout ways of doing business and leaving the smaller powers to fight, instead of the "Lets form two giant coalitions centered on the first and second largest powers and try and beat the snot out of each other in total war for world supremacy" scenario which tends to develop out of industrial games.

That's true, again assuming that relatively good players are in charge of those two superpowers, instead of ones that are all too trigger happy.

 

[Abaddon]

I am surprised at the large desire of alt hists.. whats so facinating about them?

 

[das]

Largely, they provide an advanced setting without demanding too much research.

 

[Dachs]

They're also pretty fun for people to make.

 

[Abaddon]

Oh a can see that, letting creativity an imagination flow; but this poll is asking about playing in a NES.

 

[das]

One does not at all prevent the other.

 

[Luckymoose]

I love Alt-Hist's. You make the similar world fascinatingly different. I think is our primal deserve to change things.

 

[Dachs]

Oh a can see that, letting creativity an imagination flow; but this poll is asking about playing in a NES.

Yeah...and? You makes a fun alternate history universe, you lets someone else make a NES out of it, and you plays in it.

And yeah, I do have a particular interest in changing the way things were, because the regular way's overdone.

 

[Disenfrancised]

Oh a can see that, letting creativity an imagination flow; but this poll is asking about playing in a NES.

Alt histories are more fun for the Mod as they can just make crap up if needed, and more fun for the players as although the setting is defined, there is still great sweeps of detail they can add themselves that its lacking in the vastly higher resolution information we have for the OTL during its colonial and industrial points.

 

[Abaddon]

I've just realised of the NES running, the majority are Alt-hists... TWTUD, NukeNES, SerfNES an more im forgetting

 

[das]

You've realised that just now?

 

[Dachs]

I've just realised of the NES running, the majority are Alt-hists... TWTUD, NukeNES, SerfNES an more im forgetting

Which is as it should be. Fresh starts are an abomination unless diluted by an IT/BT system or, even better, an AFS one; they either take too long or offer the wrong amount of player control to make things interesting and/or realistic. Fantasy NESes...something just rubs me the wrong way about those. That's not really logical, but I can't really explain why I dislike fantasy games. As for all non-Earth maps, I am somewhat leery of their geographical work (despite the long hours the mod may put into them) and cultural makeup; Bird's current NES may put paid to that particular notion, but I'd have to wait and see for a while more before I can decide about that.

 

[Abaddon]

Daft's nes? LINES?

 

[Abaddon]

Well my best experience with NES thus far has been BJ's first one, and that was historical...virtually all others failed after two or three updates at best thinking about it..

It seems Alt-hists would be the easiest to mod. My nes is just about to enter a BT.

 

[Luckymoose]

Well my best experience with NES thus far has been BJ's first one, and that was historical...virtually all others failed after two or three updates at best thinking about it..

After update one it could be considered Alt-Historical.

 

[Dachs]

Daft's nes? LINES?

I mentioned a dislike of non-Earth maps; I'm not entirely convinced that Iggy's managed to transcend that, while Daftpanzer's is just a Civilization map, and I don't much like them either.

 

[das]

After update one it could be considered Alt-Historical.

All historical NESes could be, but there still is a difference in the starting point and related assumptions.

 

[carmen510]

Anything that doesn't have magic or requires evolution. I also dislike story-heavy NESes, due to my lack of good writing skills.

In contrast, I love NESes that are alternate historical, mainly from the 1800s~ to the present. I also love modern NESes.