FFH, you think it could be a movie?

[Wyrmhero]

TV series could be broadcasted online, so that wouldn't be much of a problem.

That possibility completely slipped my mind (probably because I don't use it myself)

 

[Alzara]

Books usually appear alongside movies and/or series. Books would be a bonus.

If we are discussing a series or movie, I have to agree with Demus. You couldn't possible give appreciation to all the lore with a movie. If some TV channels lacked the FfH series, then FfH fans in these countries could easily get their hands on a DVD when it is (undoubtedly) released. Not ideal, but better than removing content to make a few movies.

Al

 

[Alzara]

Yes... online.... like the Might Boosh...

Good idea!

Al

 

[loki1232]

I think that the best storyline would be one about Cassiel. It would be the story of him falling from heaven--in order to protect humanity from his brothers.

Although any ffh movie would be really really really really cool.

 

[Blackmantle]

Or rather a party of grigori adventurers and their adventures in Erebus. (At least for a series it whould work perhaps. Films most of the time seem to be to short to even grossly cover a good World-background. LotR exepted. But they took 3 movies and quite long ones too and had to leave out quite some things i have heard. Which might be a good thing for the format.) Cassiel could play a supportive cast at that series. I rather think he whould lose his appeal if he whould be in the limelight all the time (which also doesn't seems to fit his nature.)
Has it all. good Taverns / interesting background but not too strange, Human heroics and missing of flat good vs. evil scemes abundant in so many rather mediocre series which lack depth.

And they are indeed having a hard stance in a world ripe with the influence of the gods acting subtly as well as more or less directly so possible plots should be thinkable in abundance.

Especially the curses which deliberately leave out any connections / references to religion whould be fun to hear.
If the Dialogues could get anywhere near the awesomeness of Serenity in that field as well as the splendid backstory of FFH it could indeed become quite an interesting watch. (and given the mode of distribution via Internet might fit the way the mod is distributed. Maybe someone skilled and resourcefull from that field will pick up the idea of a FFH internet series some day. Who knows?)

 

[Popcornlord]

Lol, you're acting as if it was going to happen! A series would be best, but for a movie I would do the Age of Ice. Pretty straight-foward for the basic design, and veiwers would get to see Kylorin reforge the Godsword and the death of Mulcarn.

 

[Sofista]

Books or series, the formula I'd prefer would follow WhiteWolf's Clan/Tribe novels: all civs should thus get roughly the same space.

 

[Alzara]

Well a community can make it happen. It would come to the attention of directors and producers.

I agree a series (or many series ) would be best.

Kael, this thread is advancing like nothing I've ever seen lol

What are your thoughts?

Al

 

[Kael]

If this idea was ever brought onto the tables seriously, then I'd suggest a FfH series instead. A lot more can be covered in a series than in a select set of films. Lots of stories could be covered at once revolving around the world as a whole. I'd certainly love to be involved in a project like that.

Can I guess from your question, Kael, that you have (or are) considering this idea?

Al

Sure Ive considered the idea, but jumping from fun mod to major motion picture is an impossible leap. I mostly asked the question to see what story arcs people prefered most.

A book is a more realistic goal, be it a true novel or a collection of short stories set within Erebus. From there you have the distant possibility of jumping to a movie or such. Ideally I'd always imagined a fantasy series like Babylon 5 that is animation or CGI and shows interconnected episodes about different events/characters.

I think many people assume that fantasy is thematically flat. Its the good guys against the bad guys, you know form the begining who is who and in the end the good guys are victorius. I'd love a fantasy series that blurs the ethical lines, portrays real characters, real loss and good guys dont always win.

 

[Alzara]

I agree entirely! Blurring the lines is something I always do when writing fantasty. Also, as you say, good guys don't always win. The fact that they always seem to has been something of an irritation to me over time.

Babylon 5 is a good comparator. Vorlons, Shadows, who is really evil? Can you really describe any faction as purely good or evil? Centauri, Narn, Minbari; all have their good and bad points. All are quite realistic!

"Understanding is a three edged sword; Your side, their side and the truth." Kosh

Al

 

[hiphopin]

Lol wow, I post this topic a little bit ago and, BAM! 29 replies, hehe lol. Thanks for giving your opinion everyone, well you know, honestly, FFH would make a damn good book series. And Kael, since even a small scale movie or series is far fetched (or you could ask scifi channel to make a shi*y short series, lol) you and your team needs to make Fall from Heaven into a official stand alone game, and as the popularity soars, which it inevitably would, well, it would just go from there.

But what I noticed when reading the fall from heaven story in the civilopedia was, "damn this would be a awsome movie/book" theres just so many good storylines of the civilizations, I can just image there could totally be a movie for every civ that I would watch (yes I know thats not going to happen) bannor escaping from hell, uhhmmm hell yeah. And oh my god, if there was a movie on the elves, yeah, need I say more. Legolas made the lord of the rings movie for me, and every scene with the elves I absolutly loved, so anything with the elves would make me go wild. I can just remember corindale (i think thats his name) the Elohim heros short story in the civilopedia, and I could just picture the whole thing in my mind, the elves exploding with fireballs, yeah seriously woooh thats awesome. Back to the elves though, I love how they are portrayed, there not technicly good, or bad, Amelanchier for example killing the bannors troops sent to cleanse the veil from the elven lands proved just that, and again, goes with the theme that this really is, dark fantasy.

If this was a movie though, it would absolutly NEED to be R rated, since this IS a dark fantasy game. Kael and team you guys just didnt create a mod, you created a world. (yeah I know that was effing corny) Seriously though this is like a full scale game with a full scale story. I created this topic out of curiosity to see if other people had the same thoughts as me as to if they could see this a movie, and hopefully more people comment. ;D

Also Kael, hire more writers and make an online book of any civs storyline, I dont care which one, just do it, no joke I would totally read it. Hell I would almost pay to read it if I wasent broke, being 14 just doesnt have many cash flow enhancing oppertunities.

EDIT-Oh by the way, a good storyline would be of the sidar, im about to start FFH to read the storys again, but from what I can remember so far, the sidar are kick-ass cool. The assassian trying, emphasis on 'trying' to kill him on his leader page story, was so descriptive and awsome, I could picture the whole thing, if it was expanded to an hour short film of the sidar, that would be another film or book or whatever that I would watch/read.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

I'm wholeheartedly for a FFH book/movie series...

There could be an age of ice trilogy/series, encompassing:
Bhall's Fall and the Bannor's Journey through hell
The Rise of the Illians, and finsihing with Mulcarn's destruction of the Luchuirp army
The reforging Of the godslayer and the Amurite's trials
The Elven Schism...

other Storylines could encompass Tebryn Abrindi's quest, and the Sheim summoning Hyborem, and the Bannor summoning Basium.

Ooh! the story of Saverous! it has a few good heroes (saverous himself, valin the phanuel) a few good villains (the burnt priest, the corrupted Bannor Empire.) as a side story, Rosier's Fall could be included...

there are so many good stories there...

Kael: when are you publishing saverous's story?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

I'd probably say the the Life of Auric (especially his escape from the Shadowed Vale) would be best.

 

[hiphopin]

Oh yeah I totally forgot about octapus overlords, that would be an awsome story, come on warriors drowned to rise as kick ass undead water creatures, yes please. I love the OO its a twisted religon, with the asylums and lunatics, speaking of lunatics, hello, Perpentach and the balseraphs, that would be another really cool story, you get to show an insane man lead an empire, I would watch that. Or I could just turn on the news and watch bush, the same thing.

(sorry I had to say that, some people will find it amusing)

 

[Nikis-Knight]

Sure Ive considered the idea, but jumping from fun mod to major motion picture is an impossible leap.

Yeah, I gotta say, getting a movie made (if you aren't already very well known like Transformers or Chronicles of Narnia) is a long shot even if you have a great screenplay already.
Of course, it's the internet age; someone could do it one the cheap with CG and host it online.

As for the script, I'd say something that starts small and then gathers in more and more cultures, if only for brief snapshots.
Grigori would make a fine focal point. Maybe something is found there, like the Godslayer, that draws attention far and wide, drawing a war to their doorstep.

Or it could be cool to do a story centered on the Clans of Embers. I considered writing a short story on this (but lack the initiave these days) wherein Sheelba sends Rantine to the Bannor for help in getting rid of the Ashen Veil, which an aging Jonas Endain has begun encouraging out of a sense of frustration at how his people are dying out. Sheelba realizes that this route is ultimately destructive to the orcs, but doesn't have the authority to fight Jonas on this, so she wants limited help from the Bannor, those best at fighting the Veil... but will they go too far? (probably )

 

[Raize]

Two words: Uwe Boll.

 

[Raize]

Topic-wise, I'd like something non-epic, like the rise of Perpentach over the Balseraph or Auric's resurgeance, perhaps in spite of Elohim efforts. Hyborem, Basium, and the struggles of the Bannor would be some looming background event that the viewers are dimly aware of but isn't central to the plot (until later), like the Empire at the beginning of Star Wars.

The 'aventuring party' theme seems too played out.

 

[hiphopin]

Two words: Uwe Boll.

ROFL. Dude that would kill the FFH image. (I dont know if you where joking or not, but if I offend you, I dont know how, but if I do forgive me) However Kael you need to ask him to direct the movie, have him wire the movies budget money to you, then have woodelf assassinate him. Then continue to direct the film with your FFH team and mourn the sad, yet somehow deserved death of the cinema failure legend himself. Uwe Boll.

No but if FFH ever does actually get made into even a small scale motion picture, maybe even internet only, and no doubt what you guys wrote for a stroyline would, just the problem would be to get it more well known, you would seriously need to make it top notch quality, you know the kind we have took for granted from this UBER l33t mod (sorry for the 1337 sp33k) either that, or, as a last resort, like I said earlier turn to the, *GASP* scifi channel for top quality shi*. Heh scifi is known for there many many many tv films that, well, bomb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g7VH8toFWE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROOyUtvdbRM (lol the guy at the end has super handguns, they dont need to be reloded O_O. And HOW THE HELL did that black guy get stuck on the fence LOL it was like the bottom inch of his shoe was in front of it) yes those are 2 prime examples of scifi's class A shi*

 

[Kael]

The origion story of Auric, Varn, Talia, Rathus and some other characters that are more minor in FfH has the advnatage that I know every scene, every view, every design of the movie from begining to end. All it would take is to write it all out (and then endlessly edit it). I do have the start of a screenplay for it and I started writing it as a story until I realized it would be better as a movie. Its so visual and takes the characters through several key events and interesting environments thaqt its really easy to see as a movie. Briggdarrow, the shadow rift, the malachite palace, the lore of the passage into the underworld, the battle in the boat, the battle against the gnolls, livana, it would all be cool to see.

Which is why I dropped writing it and started on the Saverous story a few years ago. His is better as a book since its mostly about depression, guilt and redemption more than visual events.

 

[Caradoc]

I would advise starting with a series of books. Interlocking but self-contained stories providing different perspectives on Erebus. This is what distinguishes FFH from other fantasy series -- where they may offer one or two points-of-view, FFH has many. The gaming experience revolves around taking different approaches to play according to the individual qualities of the Civilizations and their leaders. Having common promotions, spells, and setting ties them together while preserving their varied flavors. A collection of novels could recreate this motif.

It is no coincidence that the successful fantasy films have been based on books. A fast paced movie cannot afford to lay a rich groundwork for the story. The viewer must have at least some of it to start with. And Kael, by the time Hollywood gets through with FFH, you are unlikely to be happy with the characterizations, so best to lend them the setting for their own story. This worked pretty well in the Conan movies, which I regard as among the best of the genre. (OK, not so much with the D&D movies.) The downside is that the fans most immersed in the game system will be the ones to be most irritated by the adaptation. With novels, you will have full control and be able to mitigate that.