Flag Burning - do you have a double standard?

[El_Machinae]

Oh, and if anyone gets bits of burning nylon dripped on them, they should be able to sue. Those hurt

 

[I. Shogaatsu]

I dont see any problems with burning other country's flags. However, I do want to see the burning one one's home country to be illegal since I see burning your own country's flag is a sign of disrespect and being unpatriotic to your own country.

Why do you hate freedom?

 

[GenMarshall]

Why do you hate freedom?

I dont hate freedom, It just breaks my heart to see my fellow country men and woman defacing their country's own flag. Blood has been spilt in all of the wars since the foundation of the United States and the Republic to ensure that we defend ourselves from other nations who want to take our freedom away.

 

[Red Stranger]

It's not double standard if the same standards shouldn't be applied in first place. The American flag stands for freedom of expression, and if you're burning it, you're burning away that freedom. The North Korean flag stands for oppression, and by burning it, you're showing you'll no longer tolerate this oppression.

 

[CIVPhilzilla]

As long as it is not a danger to the public its protected by free speech. All free speech has to be protected, either everythings fair game or nothing is.

 

[JollyRoger]

It's not double standard if the same standards shouldn't be applied in first place. The American flag stands for freedom of expression, and if you're burning it, you're burning away that freedom. The North Korean flag stands for oppression, and by burning it, you're showing you'll no longer tolerate this oppression.

Actually, if you are an American burning the American flag, you are exercising your freedom to do so. If you are a North Korean burning the North Korean flag, you are symbolically fighting oppression.

 

[Kan' Sharuminar]

I really don't care either way. I remember someone (possibly from these forums) saying something along the lines of "you may burn flags if you want, I may call you an idiot for doing it." Such is the nature of freedom of speech. It would never bother me to see someone burn a British flag. I have my own, and it'll keep my pride.

 

[woody60707]

I am pretty much with almost everyone here on. You should of the right to burn a flag. Unless you pretty much to the right, you are not going to want to ban flag burning.

So what about (with out breaking any other laws "trespassing") burning a cross?

Should that fall under same standards?

 

[GenMarshall]

It's not double standard if the same standards shouldn't be applied in first place. The American flag stands for freedom of expression, and if you're burning it, you're burning away that freedom. The North Korean flag stands for oppression, and by burning it, you're showing you'll no longer tolerate this oppression.

Same if I whipe my butt with a North Korean flag?

 

[Red Stranger]

Actually, if you are an American burning the American flag, you are exercising your freedom to do so. If you are a North Korean burning the North Korean flag, you are symbolically fighting oppression.

If I have a hundred dollar bill (which only is symbollic of $100- the cotton it's printed on is not nearly that worth as much) and I decide to burn it. Do I still get the $100?

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

I dont see any problems with burning other country's flags. However, I do want to see the burning one one's home country to be illegal since I see burning your own country's flag is a sign of disrespect and being unpatriotic to your own country.

While I hate to see the American flag being set on fire, I don't think it should be illegal. Protesters should have the freedom to burn or disrespect the flag if they want to.

 

[woody60707]

@Red Stranger
money and the goods it buys are tangible (in most cases) Rights and freedoms are not.

Money can buy you goods. just having a flag gets you nothing. (less then nothing if you spent money on it)

 

[El_Machinae]

I think the cross, though I'm not sure, would fall under the hate legislation.

 

[Red Stranger]

@Red Stranger
money and the goods it buys are tangible (in most cases) Rights and freedoms are not.

Money can buy you goods. just having a flag gets you nothing. (less then nothing if you spent money on it)

Money is only good if the person you're trying to buy the goods from accepts it. If I take couple of $100 bills and try to buy a goat from a goat farmer in the himalayas, it's worth nothing. It's the symbollic worth that makes the $100 dollar bill so valueable. If I decide to burn the $100 dollar bill I'm not really burning $100 worth of good, but I'm burning what it symbolizes and what it could grant me.

The cloth that the flag is printed on is worth nothing. But the value the flag symbolizes is worth everything. If I decide to burn the flag I'm not really burning society's morals, I'm burning what it symbolizes and what it could grant me.

 

[GenMarshall]

While I hate to see the American flag being set on fire, I don't think it should be illegal. Protesters should have the freedom to burn or disrespect the flag if they want to.

So you think it is alright for protesters to burn the White House, the Capital Building, or even your own front yard?

 

[El_Machinae]

I think you have misread Chaos's post.

 

[Mr. Dictator]

i support flag burning.

i support freedom and america.

how about all the flag worshippers start being productive and do something that actually helps america.

its a rag. that's all it is. it STANDS for a nation. if you feel the nation is going in the wrong direction then you should make a stand.

america was built on the idea of having your voice heard and it is also the same freedom that our troops are supposedly fighting for. well, if they get offended when someone burns a flag then they dont love freedom. they only love peoples freedom to be just like them.

So you think it is alright for protesters to burn the White House, the Capital Building, or even your own front yard?

hyperbole doesnt argue a point, it proves a lack of logic.

a building is very different from a flag, you know this but it suits your argument to exagerrate.

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

So you think it is alright for protesters to burn the White House, the Capital Building, or even your own front yard?

Well no that would be arson.

The person owns the flag and should be able to set it on fire in protest. It makes me sad to see the American flag treated like it but the people have the right to do it.

 

[Pyrite]

So you think it is alright for protesters to burn the White House, the Capital Building, or even your own front yard?

I don't have a front yard.

But besides that, sure!

 

[Red Stranger]

i support flag burning.

i support freedom and america.

how about all the flag worshippers start being productive and do something that actually helps america.

its a rag. that's all it is. it STANDS for a nation. if you feel the nation is going in the wrong direction then you should make a stand.

america was built on the idea of having your voice heard and it is also the same freedom that our troops are supposedly fighting for. well, if they get offended when someone burns a flag then they dont love freedom. they only love peoples freedom to be just like them.

Obviously you haven't read my posts. The dollar bill is just a piece of paper, but if you burn it, you lose what it symbolizes.