Fredom of Press in the World - US decline

Do you agree with this index?

  • Yes, I think it's conclusive.

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • Well, not entirely.

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Hell no, it's heavily biased !!! (maybe a french plot?)

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • The truth is out there...

    Votes: 4 10.3%

  • Total voters
    39

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So, the non-governmental organisation Reporters without Borders (Reporters sans frontiéres) has published it's list of press freedom in the world. The results are very surprising, at least for me personaly.

So, here is the full list:

1 Denmark 0,50
- Finland 0,50
- Iceland 0,50
- Ireland 0,50
- Netherlands 0,50
- Norway 0,50
- Switzerland 0,50
8 Slovakia 0,75
9 Czech Republic 1,00
- Slovenia 1,00

11 Estonia 1,50
12 Hungary 2,00
- New Zealand 2,00
- Sweden 2,00
- Trinidad and Tobago 2,00
16 Austria 2,50
- Latvia 2,50
18 Belgium 4,00
- Germany 4,00
- Greece 4,00

21 Canada 4,50
- Lithuania 4,50
23 Portugal 4,83
24 United Kingdom 5,17
25 Benin 5,50
- Cyprus 5,50
- Namibia 5,50
28 El Salvador 5,75
29 Cape Verde 6,00
30 France 6,25
31 Australia 6,50
- South Africa 6,50
33 Bosnia and Herzegovina 7,00
34 Jamaica 7,50
- Mauritius 7,50
- South Korea 7,50
37 Japan 8,00
- Mali 8,00
39 Hong-Kong 8,25
40 Spain 8,33
41 Costa Rica 8,50
42 Italy 8,67
43 Macedonia 8,75
44 United States of America (American territory) 9,50
45 Bolivia 9,67
46 Uruguay 9,75
47 Israel 10,00
48 Bulgaria 10,25
49 Mozambique 10,50
50 Chile 11,75
51 Dominican Republic 12,25
- Taiwan 12,25
53 Cyprus (North) 12,50
- Mongolia 12,50
- Poland 12,50
56 Croatia 12,83
57 Niger 13,00
58 Timor-Leste 13,50
59 Argentina 13,67
60 Botswana 14,00
- Fiji 14,00
62 Albania 14,17
63 Brazil 14,50
- Tonga 14,50
65 Serbia and Montenegro 14,83
66 Ghana 15,00
- Panama 15,00
68 Nicaragua 15,25
69 Paraguay 15,50
70 Romania 16,17
71 Congo 17,00
- Guinea-Bissau 17,00
- Seychelles 17,00
74 Moldova 17,50
- Tanzania 17,50
76 Angola 18,00
- Honduras 18,00
78 Burkina Faso 19,00
- Senegal 19,00
80 Uganda 19,25
81 Lesotho 19,50
82 Central African Republic 19,75
83 Cameroon 20,50
- Liberia 20,50
85 Kuwait 21,25
86 Guatemala 21,50
87 Ecuador 21,75
88 Comoros 22,00
89 Malawi 22,75
90 Burundi 23,00
- Cambodia 23,00
- Qatar 23,00
- Venezuela 23,00
- Zambia 23,00
95 Togo 23,75
96 Jordan 24,00
97 Madagascar 24,50
98 Turkey 25,00
99 Georgia 25,17
100 Kosovo 25,75
- United Arab Emirates 25,75
102 Armenia 26,00
- Gabon 26,00
- Guinea 26,00
- Indonesia 26,00
106 India 27,00
107 Thailand 28,00
108 Lebanon 28,25
109 Chad 30,00
- Kenya 30,00
111 Kyrgyzstan 32,00
112 Ukraine 32,50
113 Malaysia 33,00
- Tajikistan 33,00
115 Sri Lanka 33,25
116 Peru 33,33
117 Haiti 33,50
118 Swaziland 35,00
119 Kazakhstan 36,17
- Morocco 36,17
121 Djibouti 37,00
122 Rwanda 38,00
123 Bahrein 38,75
- Nigeria 38,75
125 Afghanistan 39,17
126 Sierra Leone 39,50
127 Mauritania 40,00
128 Colombia 40,17
129 Algeria 40,33
130 Gambia 41,00
131 Ethiopia 42,00
132 Palestinian Authority 42,50
133 Equatorial Guinea 44,00
- Sudan 44,00
135 Mexico 45,50
136 Yemen 46,25
137 United States of America (in Iraq) 48,50
138 Russia 48,67
139 Philippines 50,00
140 Singapore 50,67
141 Azerbaijan 51,00
142 Bhutan 51,50
143 Egypt 52,00
144 Côte d’Ivoire 52,25
145 Syria 55,00
146 Democratic Republic of Congo 57,33
147 Tunisia 57,50
148 Maldives 58,50
149 Somalia 59,00
150 Pakistan 60,75
151 Bangladesh 61,25
152 Belarus 61,33
153 Zimbabwe 64,25
154 Saudi Arabia 66,00
155 Laos 66,50
- Uzbekistan 66,50
157 Iraq 67,00
158 Vietnam 73,25
159 China 83,00
160 Nepal 86,75
161 Cuba 87,00
162 Libya 88,75
163 Burma 88,83
164 Iran 89,17
165 Turkmenistan 93,50
166 Eritrea 99,75
167 North Korea 109,00

And here the commentary from the RSF pages:

North Korea, Eritrea and Turkmenistan are the world’s “black holes” for news

Western democracies slip back, with the US falling more than 20 places



North Korea once again comes bottom of the Reporters Without Borders fourth annual World Press Freedom Index, released today. It is closely followed in the 167-country list by Eritrea (166th) and Turkmenistan (165th), which are other “black holes” for news where the privately-owned media is not allowed and freedom of expression does not exist.

Journalists there simply relay government propaganda. Anyone out of step is harshly dealt with. A word too many, a commentary that deviates from the official line or a wrongly-spelled name and the author may be thrown in prison or draw the wrath of those in power. Harassment, psychological pressure, intimidation and round-the-clock surveillance are routine.

East Asia (Burma 163rd, China 159th, Vietnam 158th, Laos 155th), Central Asia (Turkmenistan 165th, Uzbekistan 155th, Afghanistan 125th, Kazakhstan 119th) and the Middle East (Iran 164th, Iraq 157th, Saudi Arabia 154th, Syria 145th) are where journalists have the toughest time and where government repression or armed groups prevent the media operating freely.

The situation in Iraq (157th) deteriorated further during the year as the safety of journalists became more precarious. At least 24 journalists and media assistants have been killed so far this year, making it the mostly deadly conflict for the media since World War II. A total of 72 media workers have been killed since the fighting began in March 2003.

But more and more African and Latin American countries (Benin 25th, Namibia 25th, El Salvador 28th, Cape Verde 29th, Mauritius 34th, Mali 37th, Costa Rica 41st and Bolivia 45th) are getting very good rankings.
Western democracies slip back

Some Western democracies slipped down the Index. The United States (44th) fell more than 20 places, mainly because of the imprisonment of New York Times reporter Judith Miller and legal moves undermining the privacy of journalistic sources. Canada (21st) also dropped several places due to decisions that weakened the privacy of sources and sometimes turned journalists into “court auxiliaries.” France (30th) also slipped, largely because of searches of media offices, interrogations of journalists and introduction of new press offences.

At the top of the Index once again are northern European countries Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Iceland, Norway and the Netherlands, where robust press freedom is firmly established. The top 10 countries are all European. New Zealand (12th), Trinidad and Tobago (12th), Benin (25th) and South Korea (34th) are the highest-ranked countries in other continents.
Press freedom, economic development and independence

Countries that have recently won their independence or have recovered it are very observant of press freedom and give the lie to the insistence of many authoritarian leaders that democracy takes decades to establish itself. Nine states that have had independence (or recovered it within the past 15 years) are among the top 60 countries - Slovenia (9th), Estonia (11th), Latvia (16th), Lithuania (21st), Namibia (25th), Bosnia-Herzegovina (33rd), Macedonia (43rd), Croatia (56th) and East Timor (58th).

The Index also contradicts the frequent argument by leaders of poor and repressive countries that economic development is a vital precondition for democracy and respect for human rights. The top of the Index is heavily dominated by rich countries, but several very poor ones (with a per capita GDP of less than $1,000 in 2003) are among the top 60, such as Benin (25th), Mali (37th), Bolivia (45th), Mozambique (49th), Mongolia (53rd), Niger (57th) and East Timor (58th).
 
:lol:
Following the news, the immigration rate of Mali tripled, as American reporters in print and visual media streamed in, seeking a land of true freedom.
 
Now something they say about their methodology:

How the index was compiled

The index measures the state of press freedom in the world. It reflects the degree of freedom journalists and news organisations enjoy in each country, and the efforts made by the state to respect and ensure respect for this freedom.

It is based solely on events between 1 September 2004 and 1 September 2005. It does not look at human rights violations in general, just press freedom violations.

Reporters Without Borders compiled a questionnaire with 50 criteria for assessing the state of press freedom in each country. It includes every kind of violation directly affecting journalists (such as murders, imprisonment, physical attacks and threats) and news media (censorship, confiscation of issues, searches and harassment).

It registers the degree of impunity enjoyed by those responsible for such violations. It also takes account of the legal situation affecting the news media (such as penalties for press offences, the existence of a state monopoly in certain areas and the existence of a regulatory body) and the behaviour of the authorities towards the state-owned news media and the foreign press. It also takes account of the main obstacles to the free flow of information on the Internet.

We have taken account not only of abuses attributable to the state, but also those by armed militias, clandestine organisations or pressure groups that can pose a real threat to press freedom.

The questionnaire was sent to partner organisations of Reporters Without Borders (14 freedom of expression groups in five continents) and its 130 correspondents around the world, as well as to journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists. A scale devised by the organisation was then used to give a country-score to each questionnaire. The Statistics Institute of the University of Paris provided assistance and advice in processing the data reliably and thoroughly.

The 167 countries ranked are those for which we received completed questionnaires from a number of independent sources. Others were not included because of a lack of credible data. Where countries tied, they are listed in alphabetical order.

The index should in no way be taken as an indication of the quality of the press in the countries concerned.
 
Isn't this the thing that ranked postwar Iraq below prewar Iraq? In short, their questionaire is flawed.
 
h4ppy said:
Isn't this the thing that ranked postwar Iraq below prewar Iraq? In short, their questionaire is flawed.

The year 2002:

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...
130 Iraq 79,00
131 Vietnam 81,25
132 Eritrea 83,67
133 Laos 89,00
134 Cuba 90,25
135 Bhutan 90,75
136 Turkmenistan 91,50
137 Burma 96,83
138 China 97,00
139 North Korea 97,50

Nothing really changed.
 
h4ppy said:
Isn't this the thing that ranked postwar Iraq below prewar Iraq? In short, their questionaire is flawed.
In what way? Before the war, there was only one power group putting pressure on journalists in Iraq. After the war, there were at least two.

I think your criteria for determining the quality of the questionaire are flawed.
 
Taliesin said:
:lol:
Following the news, the immigration rate of Mali tripled, as American reporters in print and visual media streamed in, seeking a land of true freedom.
America (as in the "New World"), isn't about getting more freedom, it is about making more money. ;)

I'm not that surprised by France's rank in the end. The press is rather free, but too many subjects are "forgotten" because of politics associations etc... Sometimes the "raison d'Etat" is in order ; like with Mitterrand's phone spying affair eg. And Sarkozy must have done a few things as well... ;)
 
CZ is on the top of the list just because our media love to bash the government, police, army, judicial system, simply everything. The newspaper is full of pessimism. Maybe that's the criterion they like ;)
 
kryszcztov said:
America (as in the "New World"), isn't about getting more freedom, it is about making more money. ;)

I'm not that surprised by France's rank in the end. The press is rather free, but too many subjects are "forgotten" because of politics associations etc... Sometimes the "raison d'Etat" is in order ; like with Mitterrand's phone spying affair eg. And Sarkozy must have done a few things as well... ;)
Problems about freedom of press in France is not only about the government, it's also about other powerful groups which are intimidating the media. I think for instance about Corsican independentists or people like that.
 
What surprises me the most is South Korea, and especially Bosnia! before the USA.

And Trinidad and Tobago in the top 12.....

Nothing surprising about scandinavians.. their always the best at everything :p
 
Doesn't seem very accurate to me.

But then I'm a right-wing neo-con blinded by the Bush administration and fed full of government propoganda. :p What do I know.
 
I think it accurate enough. The United states isn't so dire as what they are trying to make it out to be. The rank is 44th (which isn't that great) but they gave it a mere 9.5 which is pretty good comparitvely. They even praised countries with a worse rating, such as Croatia with 12.83 or East Timor with 13.5. IMO they just hold a bit of a grudge against the USA.

No surprises North Korea is dead last. I expected Saudi Arabia and China to have worse ratings than they have received.
 
I'd say there's a tad of bias or miscalculation in there. How many people in the U.S. are arrested for having an opinion that is not accepted by the state? In parts of Europe, if you express an opinion that is considered "hateful," you find yourself in jail and in this survey it's those countries that rank higher on the freedom of journalism list?
 
Brazil is below Alabania and Botswana... that's one more thing to add in Masquerouge's thread...
 
none of that is particularly surprising. the lack of opposition to the bush administration in the US media has been surprising to me. when the press is so concerned about making money, you are going to get a biased voice.

h4ppy said:
Isn't this the thing that ranked postwar Iraq below prewar Iraq? In short, their questionaire is flawed.
this also wouldn't be surprising. while there would have been a whole heap of propaganda in saddam's iraq, there's a whole lot more now. the US there clamped down early on dissenting press. i know that the US soldiers on the ground there don't get much in the way of unbiased news either.
 
actually, singapore is probably the only surprise for me there. i would've thought they'd rank a lot better than that :\
 
bobgote said:
none of that is particularly surprising. the lack of opposition to the bush administration in the US media has been surprising to me. when the press is so concerned about making money, you are going to get a biased voice.
Lack of opposition? What? Either you've been smoking something funny, or you're reading Frontpagemag.com or Townhall and thinking it speaks for most of the media.

In the thirty days after Katrina hit the New York Times ran 53 articles criticizing George Bush. Come on man, if that's lack of opposition or criticism then I don't want to know what you consider really slamming someone.
 
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