The US political divisions and the role of lies in the media - one case

Do you regret having fallen for the lies on this specific incident?


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Yes, yes. Remember the Maine. You do need to be savvy when it comes to listening to the paid liars. Political and professional of all sorts. But you know who the absolute worst ones are? The ones that will punch you in the mouth if you don't shut up, and they'll shoot you if the prior doesn't work. Impoverishing a man isn't that far off either.

NPR isn't free free either. That one is as it is because the local radio hosts regularly go begging from their broadcast-range listening area. The more they have to take sponsorships, the less "calm duck on head," or whatever it is they are, they get. And the more like everything else.
All businesses cater to their customers who whoever pays the bills. While still biased, major media sources are more responsible about what they "print" because more people are looking to find fault with their product. I would suggest that there is more "yellow journalism" on the right than on the left.

Cherry picking bad news stories is pretty easy to do. As newspapers fade and online stories rise, we see more and more people having access to more and more sources, much of which is free. The demand for eyeballs and clicks has forced significant changes in how information is presented. Some of those changes are pretty nice. Looking back 50 or 100 years it is pretty easy to find poor use of headlines and stories that were used to fuel political objectives.

Yellow journalism[edit]
The New York Journal and New York World, owned respectively by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, gave Maine intense press coverage, employing tactics that would later be labeled "yellow journalism." Both papers exaggerated and distorted any information they could obtain, sometimes even fabricating news when none that fitted their agenda was available. For a week following the sinking, the Journal devoted a daily average of eight and a half pages of news, editorials and pictures to the event. Its editors sent a full team of reporters and artists to Havana, including Frederic Remington,[57] and Hearst announced a reward of $50,000 "for the conviction of the criminals who sent 258 American sailors to their deaths."[58]

The World, while overall not as lurid or shrill in tone as the Journal, nevertheless indulged in similar theatrics, insisting continually that Maine had been bombed or mined. Privately, Pulitzer believed that "nobody outside a lunatic asylum" really believed that Spain sanctioned Maine's destruction. Nevertheless, this did not stop the World from insisting that the only "atonement" Spain could offer the U.S. for the loss of ship and life, was the granting of complete Cuban independence. Nor did it stop the paper from accusing Spain of "treachery, willingness, or laxness" for failing to ensure the safety of Havana Harbor.[59] The American public, already agitated over reported Spanish atrocities in Cuba, was driven to increased hysteria.[60]

William Randolph Hearst's reporting on Maine whipped up support for military action against the Spanish in Cuba regardless of their actual involvement in the sinking. He frequently cited various naval officers saying that the explosion could not have been an on-board accident. He quoted an "officer high in authority" as saying "The idea that the catastrophe resulted from an internal accident is preposterous. In the first place, such a thing has never occurred before that I have ever heard of either in the British navy or ours."[61]
 
Minority papers, and audiences, will always be "more extreme" by very definition. That's how the math works. You need to look way harder at things that sound reasonable. Always remember, ultimately, who is getting punched in the face. Right? That tells you more than anything. Near as I can tell.
 
Jeff Gerth (Pulitzer Prize Winner 1999) has written a 24,000 word review on the media's coverage of President Trump.

Links to part 2, 3, and 4 are at the top of the page.

Over the past two years, I put questions to, and received answers from, Trump, as well as his enemies. The latter include Christopher Steele, the author of the so-called dossier, financed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign, that claimed Trump was in service of the Kremlin, and Peter Strzok, the FBI official who opened and led the inquiry into possible collusion between Russia and Trump’s campaign before he was fired. I also sought interviews, often unsuccessfully, with scores of journalists—print, broadcast, and online—hoping they would cooperate with the same scrutiny they applied to Trump. And I pored through countless official documents, court records, books, and articles, a daunting task given that, over Mueller’s tenure, there were more than half a million news stories concerning Trump and Russia or Mueller.

On the eve of a new era of intense political coverage, this is a look back at what the press got right, and what it got wrong, about the man who once again wants to be president. So far, few news organizations have reckoned seriously with what transpired between the press and the presidency during this period. That failure will almost certainly shape the coverage of what lies ahead.
 
^ I still don't understand any of that stuff. [Although the author's conclusion seems clear enough that maybe journalists ought to exercise a bit more humility.]
In retrospect it sounds as silly as the various Red Scares and communist witch hunts we had before whose practical results were precisely zero. Only this time being elevated ("elevated"?) to this stupid sniping going on between the then-president and the press, to make it sound more intriguing and intellectual.
Considering we've seen Russia's true ambitions don't really revolve around collapsing western governments from within, but rather blunt imperialism and extolling its own apparent greatness...
 
"one partly falsely accused of being insurrectionist"??? You mean the Democrats? Because I watched the whole thing from Trump saying the only way he'd lose is if he was cheated to his knuckle dragging minions beating police officers with flag poles while chanting " hang Mike Pence" in the Capitol, and those weren't Democrats or independents smearing fecal matter on the walls of the Capitol.

Not sure what the point is. News media get things wrong all the time. Sidnick's death was incorrectly reported by every media outlet. Bad info, nothing else. And the zip ties? Why the eff would anyone be carrying around zip ties if not to bind people's hands???

The larger, more important story (Trump's attempt to overthrow the government and install himself as president) was outlined quite accurately by the Times, the Post, AP NPR, and other responsible media.
 
You can tell that story is ridiculously biased just by the use of phrases like "the so-called dossier". You can criticize something, or say why you think it's wrong or irrelevant, but the thing is what it is. It'd be like holding a book in your hand & referring to it as "this so-called book" while claiming you're just being objective.
 
dossier - a file containing detailed records on a particular person or subject


Five years later, it was described by mainstream media as "largely discredited",[4][5] "deeply flawed",[6] and "largely unverified".[7]

Does it qualify as a dossier on a person if large parts are fiction?
 
News is part of the entertainment industry. Expecting to be fed facts from the media is like expecting to be fed food @ mcdonalds.
 
Conservative Talk Radio has been the biggest driver of political division in the US over the past 30 years. Rush Limbaugh being the biggest offender.
 
Conservative Talk Radio has been the biggest driver of political division in the US over the past 30 years. Rush Limbaugh being the biggest offender.

Division, anarchy, and bedlam are most profitable!

Stability and order? Not so much. If anything they are actually a financial burden whereby your more likely to lose money! Either that or society and the economy is so messed up these days that conflict is the only way a man can get ahead. Or just be born rich!
 
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