Geneva Conference-The World Turned Upside Down NES Subthread

[TheLastJacobite]

The British people openly embraced Communism after the Civil War. If we install a democracy, they will simply elect die hard Communists, either under thar same banner or another. Nothing would change, except they would hate our countries even more.

 

[The Farow]

The British people openly embraced Communism after the Civil War. If we install a democracy, they will simply elect die hard Communists, either under thar same banner or another. Nothing would change, except they would hate our countries even more.

No they didn't. The communists siezed power in a civil war. In other words they forced to embrace communism.

I am sure at least 50% of the population will oppose the communists reestablishing power.

 

[Azale]

Russia will not allow a revanchist British Empire, simply an England under English control.

The links will be there undeniably anyway, might as well make the Indians serve a part in occupying and contributing.

An renewed England will not be the same England that was defeated in the Great War, but one checked by two alliances. It is not the same situation.

 

[The Farow]

Here is a compromise:

Scotland gains independence.
England falls under control of India to reestablish the English Empire as a new ally in the fight against communism.

The world is a different place and we believe that this is the only stable solution to the British isles.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

@Farow, the dissent is 25% in the CBW against the commies, the majority of the British people support the success of the communist regime.

 

[The Farow]

@Farow, the dissent is 25% in the CBW against the commies, the majority of the British people support the success of the communist regime.

How would that change in post-occupation if the regime destroyed the lands. A majority of the people supported Hitler but that changed after the war because of the destruction he caused.

Could we see a similar situation? Probably will not tell us that will you . Do they embrace communism because of years of propoganda? If we introduce our own will it sway the minds of the people?

 

[TheLastJacobite]

Cut the Bull, the only reason you want the Royal Family to be reinstated is because they are members of your alliance and you undoubtably promised them England if they sided with you. We WILL NOT allow the English Empire be reestablished and become a rallying cry for rebellion and riots in the territories we captured from the English.

 

[The Farow]

Cut the Bull, the only reason you want the Royal Family to be reinstated is because they are members of your alliance and you undoubtably promised them England if they sided with you. We WILL NOT allow the English Empire be reestablished and become a rallying cry for rebellion and riots in the territories we captured from the English.

And how is your situation better. Our troops will be occupying the island for decades to come as we try to maintain order. IF you have a solution that allows for a democratic England that is strong enough to fight the communists by all means I am listening. But taking away all their territory and giving it to the Celts is stupid. Under that excuse Germany has a right to rule over all Germanic cultures. The different Celtic cultues are distrinct and tied more so to England then Ireland.

England is war torn how will giving it to India really boost their power anymore?

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

@Farow, following the conquest of Britian, the English will evolve into a super-race. They will combine the genetics of the common Indian misquito with human organisms. They will proceed to fly around the world drawing blood from all the merely human nations. A thousand years from the dark "vampire age" the world will be liberated by a zany collection of heroes, leading a secret underground resistance movement. Following this will be a golden age of humanity, led by the hero who looks oddly like Keanu Reeves. After his death in bed, his children will divide the world into numerous sections, ultimately devastating the earth more than the vampires could ever have done. This be a lesson to all of you. Don't lie about bears.

Seriously, I'm not telling you the future. Only Xenu knows how things will turn out.

 

[Azale]

India has its own huge minority issues to deal with, they can not afford to sponsor any Canadian or Australian uprisings as you postulate, Mr. President.

India has the most men available to lend to an occupation. It makes sense to hand over control of the government to them as well. As I said, this is not the same Britain.

 

[Swissempire]

IC: 25% Dissent means that 75% support Communism. Lern 2 Mathz N00b
OOC: Interestingly enough, Historians trace the beginning of Internet Slang to Malcolm Little

IC: Liberia sees a perfect compromise

England can be reunited with India, but only England. Scotland, Wales, and Cornwall will be given to Eire, which will join the Tehran Pact as to maintain balance of Power. When redrawing the Map, Indochina will be given to Ireland. Thusly, the two powers of the Isles will both have Asian Colonies that border each other.

And the commies go to the Isles of Man.

Liberia sees this as the best possible compromise

OOC: It is the best compromise. I mean it creates PERFECT balance. Nippon-China, Russia-America, Ireland-England, Germany-Italy, German Africa-Liberia, British Africa-Boer Republic, South America Balance....

I mean damn.

 

[The Farow]

IC: 25% Dissent means that 75% support Communism. Lern 2 Mathz N00b
OOC: Interestingly enough, Historians trace the beginning of Internet Slang to Malcolm Little

IC: Liberia sees a perfect compromise

England can be reunited with India, but only England. Scotland, Wales, and Cornwall will be given to Eire, which will join the Tehran Pact as to maintain balance of Power. When redrawing the Map, Indochina will be given to Ireland. Thusly, the two powers of the Isles will both have Asian Colonies that border each other.

And the commies go to the Isles of Man.

Liberia sees this as the best possible compromise

OOC: It is the best compromise. I mean it creates PERFECT balance. Nippon-China, Russia-America, Ireland-England, Germany-Italy, German Africa-Liberia, British Africa-Boer Republic, South America Balance....

I mean damn.

Except the fact the Wales is part of England. Scotland should hold a referdum for independence or to join Eire. Eitherway they can become allies of the Tehran Pact.

How is Ireland going to control Indochina? Swiss, I sense your Irish bias here

 

[jeps]

OOC:that would set up the perfect world war.

 

[TheLastJacobite]

Last we checked, all German lands ARE under the control of Germany, or is Austria-Hungary no longer your puppet?

England cannot be democratic until its people have been freed of the brainwashing that has been done to them by the Communists.

As for the Royal Family, whether or not they will purposefully incite the Canadians and Australians, it will happen any way. The return of the Royal Family to England (and thus returning their two largest colonies of South Africa and India to them) would be seen as a reunification of the lands that we seized from them during the Great War. There would be full scale riots across Canada and in all three zones of Australia, as well as the territories seized in Africa. All the areas that were under British control in 1900 would rise up against those who currently control them.

 

[Azale]

The HRE tentatively agrees with the Liberians crazy mad plan.

 

[The Farow]

Last we checked, all German lands ARE under the control of Germany, or is Austria-Hungary no longer your puppet?

England cannot be democratic until its people have been freed of the brainwashing that has been done to them by the Communists.

As for the Royal Family, whether or not they will purposefully incite the Canadians and Australians, it will happen any way. The return of the Royal Family to England (and thus returning their two largest colonies of South Africa and India to them) would be seen as a reunification of the lands that we seized from them during the Great War. There would be full scale riots across Canada and in all three zones of Australia, as well as the territories seized in Africa. All the areas that were under British control in 1900 would rise up against those who currently control them.

-So your justification is riots in Canada. Why do the British have to suffer more years of instability just so a few Canadians do not riot.
-Backs up our reasons for an independent Australia
-Africans could care less who rules them. They are all imperialists to them

 

[Swissempire]

Except the fact the Wales is part of England. Scotland should hold a referdum for independence or to join Eire. Eitherway they can become allies of the Tehran Pact.

How is Ireland going to control Indochina?

Wales is not a part of England And if we give Scotland a Referendum, we should give England and the Netherlands one too!

And they would control Indochina the same way the French did.

Swiss, I sense your Irish bias here

Pfft, I sense your Anti-Irish, Surrender Monkey bias, padawan

But seriously, that is the best compromise and we can all develop peacefully for a little while and then start conquering those who aren't part of the alliance system!

What possible compromise could be better?

 

[Azale]

America; We could leave the Royal Family in India perhaps?

 

[The Farow]

Wales is not a part of England And if we give Scotland a Referendum, we should give England and the Netherlands one too!

And they would control Indochina the same way the French did.


Pfft, I sense your Anti-Irish, Surrender Monkey bias, padawan

But seriously, that is the best compromise and we can all develop peacefully for a little while and then start conquering those who aren't part of the alliance system!

What possible compromise could be better?

What I meant by part of England it is culturally closer to England then Ireland.

Eire does not have the power to suddenly control the colony of Indochina which will be very hard to gain recontrol over and require a large force.

 

[EQandcivfanatic]

OOC: I'd like to make some of my own recommendations and input for this proposal.

1. THere is no way possible for Ireland to hold onto Indochina, plus it is still French, Republican French at that. May as well try to give them the whole French Empire.
2. Wales is definitely part of England as of this time frame, and it would be far more likely to find collaborators for an independant Wales than one run by Ireland. Same goes for Scotland. Cornwall is too English to even bear mentioning.