[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

[cardgame]

I've bullied some folks outta here and have not a shred of remorse.

Was it the white guilt bullying? I hear that's super-effective

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Was it the white guilt bullying? I hear that's super-effective

To these people, white guilt is being forced to acknowledge and come to terms with the fact that some people are inherently disadvantaged by what they ARE NOT, rather than by what they ARE, which makes them feel uncomfortable and rather than admit that when it contradicts with their deeply held beliefs, they double down and deflect.

To be fair, this could equally apply to any and every form of priviledge.

Apologies for laboring the point but goddamn it, we're literally living through a protest that was sparked by racial injustices and people still want to quibble over whether that's even a tangible thing

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Was it the white guilt bullying? I hear that's super-effective

LOL...no, it's really not. The places people have tried to use that on me I either just got tired of stooping to their level and beating them on their own terms, or I got banned. I don't think it would be accurate to say they ever "bullied me out."

 

[Farm Boy]

Tim, God Money has politicized everything. Don't want a rail line obliterating you retired neighbors home and lifestyle? That's a political belief. Need a pipeline to do that? Political. Want conservation of the earth around you? Political. Because somehow all political lifestyle are somehow less important than if you have a good or bad tan, because literally the shittiest type of human will build an identity out it and treat you with whatever fever dream that was. It's a stupid boring line. It's a conceit, and a piss poor one.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

You're being awfully cryptic...

But isn't that what you regularly do here? Are you aware of it? Your implicit bias? I get it, fellow members won't call you out on it, you probably are literally unaware of it.

It's just what they do here. It doesn't matter what you say, they know what you think, and because they know what you think they can retrospectively interpret everything you say through the lens of knowing what you're really saying. It's lots of fun isn't it. Basically it doesn't really matter what you actually say, or even if you say something that is essentially identical to something one of their friends has said and they have "liked". If you're on the list of disapproved persons, you'll get flak.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It's just what they do here. It doesn't matter what you say, they know what you think, and because they know what you think they can retrospectively interpret everything you say through the lens of knowing what you're really saying. It's lots of fun isn't it. Basically it doesn't really matter what you actually say, or even if you say something that is essentially identical to something one of their friends has said and they have "liked". If you're on the list of disapproved persons, you'll get flak.

Since you opted to be spiritual advisor here perhaps the two of you should discuss how he made it so quickly onto this "list of disapproved persons."

 

[cardgame]

It's just what they do here. It doesn't matter what you say, they know what you think, and because they know what you think they can retrospectively interpret everything you say through the lens of knowing what you're really saying. It's lots of fun isn't it. Basically it doesn't really matter what you actually say, or even if you say something that is essentially identical to something one of their friends has said and they have "liked". If you're on the list of disapproved persons, you'll get flak.

Humans are very, very good at finding patterns

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Since you opted to be spiritual advisor here perhaps the two of you should discuss how he made it so quickly onto this "list of disapproved persons."

Not toeing the line is all it takes to be honest.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Not toeing the line is all it takes to be honest.

How brave of you and others to challenge the supposed orthodoxy of non-discrimination against minorities

 

[Syno]

How brave of you and others to challenge the supposed orthodoxy of non-discrimination against minorities

But Cloud, what if Black Lives DON'T Matter? We need to hear all sides. Let's take a look at the s t a t i s t i c s.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

Humans are very, very good at finding patterns

They're also very good at being tribal asshats.

 

[Farm Boy]

Humans are very, very good at finding patterns

Double rainbow guy found the meaning better than what we're observing.

 

[cardgame]

But Cloud, what if Black Lives DON'T Matter? We need to hear all sides. Let's take a look at the s t a t i s t i c s.

Despite making up just 0.227% of the population, police are responsible for 8% of all adult male homicides!

What?

Oh, now context matters?

 

[Cloud_Strife]

They're also very good at being tribal asshats.

You forgot to include the part where you advocate against those people, supporting discrimination against them and argue for both and then expect them to remain neutral and unemotional

Everythings in bad faith with you guys.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Not toeing the line is all it takes to be honest.

LOL...no, clearly incorrect.

My views on violence are totally out of step here and always have been and I am not on any "list of disapproved persons."

 

[H4run]

supporting discrimination against them and argue for both and then expect them to remain neutral and unemotional

It requires you to achieved a zen like state of mind to be in such state of peace and serenity when at the same time poking around on a highly disturbing topic. That's the reason why he is the spiritual guru.

 

[Farm Boy]

LOL...no, clearly incorrect.

My views on violence are totally out of step here and always have been and I am not on any "list of disapproved persons."

I don't know. I hit my fill of violent men in the world every now and then and have to check out. They're everywhere, particularly on television and the internet. I'd say you fit right in. I almost never pull up my own netflix account anymore, almost never watch it so it shows a listing of popular in America or whatever, it's usually depressing.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I don't know. I hit my fill of violent men in the world every now and then and have to check out. They're everywhere, particularly on television and the internet. I'd say you fit right in. I almost never pull up my own netflix account anymore, almost never watch it so it shows a listing of popular in America or whatever, it's usually depressing.

The idea was that not "toeing the line" here at CFC gets you on a "list of disapproved persons." That claim is demonstrably false.

I have gotten into it, hard, with the large majority here on the issue of when violence is appropriate. I have gotten into it, hard, over the necessity of vaccination against the standard childhood diseases. I could find other examples. So that demonstrates Manfred's claim is false.

 

[Farm Boy]

<shrug> If that's how you want to go with it.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

<shrug> If that's how you want to go with it.

Are you agreeing with Manfred's claim here?

Are you saying that my individual case does not disprove his idea in at least a general sense?

Are you just being "cryptic with an air of disagreement" for some other reason?