[RD] George Floyd and protesting while black

[Crezth]

"people should be treated equally under the law",

Protecting churches and not statues is necessarily arbitrary, especially if we're literally only talking about the property involved.

People or property? Pick a lane, guy.

 

[Traitorfish]

If statues organised food drives like churches do, maybe we wouldn't feel like pulling them down.

 

[red_elk]

Statues are decorations, churches are buildings. Burning buildings may put people in danger, destroying decorations is just vandalism.
Would be the same with a Christian fundamentalist church and Martin Luther King statue.

 

[r16]

am quite fine , am doing all right , ı do not support New Turkey , ı love the Phantom , even this example is from an era they were involved in so much bloodshed but it is like quite update to handle Greece , ı do have starships , am superannoyed by State Department crew that try to create precedents by getting themselves "invited" while they are not , reject any and all allegations that ı sabotaged the Disney Triology to improve the reputation of the Prequels and yes ı also know the Stuntwoman . Threadwise , it is quite a fact that Trump winning will be quite a disaster for America even if the hope is also scant for a Biden presidency to fix the abomination called the US .

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Statues are decorations, churches are buildings. Burning buildings may put people in danger, destroying decorations is just vandalism.
Would be the same with a Christian fundamentalist church and Martin Luther King statue.

In the US a house of worship is not just a building. As a place intended for gathering in service of religious beliefs arson of a house of worship is considered to be not only the violent crime it would be for another building, it is considered a direct assault on religious freedom as guaranteed by the constitution.

 

[Kyriakos]

Statues are decorations, churches are buildings. Burning buildings may put people in danger, destroying decorations is just vandalism.
Would be the same with a Christian fundamentalist church and Martin Luther King statue.

What if someone lives inside the statue?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

What if someone lives inside the statue?

Then by law it's considered a dwelling, not a statue.

And don't drag it inside the city wall, but that's another story.

 

[red_elk]

What if someone lives inside the statue?

What if someone made a church-like statue?
Or a statue-like church?

 

[Seon]

I don’t think a model rendition of a church should be considered a church, no.

A statue like church would be a church.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

What if someone lives inside the statue?

good premise for a short story imho.

 

[Takhisis]

Oh... well if I'd stuck round a few more posts I would have seen the level of dishonesty you're stooping to, so never mind.

Aren't you that fella who tried to help Edward push the talking point that anti-Gypsy legislation is not racist because eviction is based on trespassing offences?

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Aren't you that fella who tried to help Edward push the talking point that anti-Gypsy legislation is not racist because eviction is based on trespassing offences?

He just coincidently keeps popping up in topics about minorities to argue against them being treated with respect or equal rights and to give ammo to those attacking them

But i'm sure he doesn't harbor any malice against minorities... right?

 

[Lexicus]

In the US a house of worship is not just a building. As a place intended for gathering in service of religious beliefs arson of a house of worship is considered to be not only the violent crime it would be for another building, it is considered a direct assault on religious freedom as guaranteed by the constitution.

And the whole point of the hate crime thing is that in the US when the KKK does it, I would argue it generally also constitutes a terroristic threat against, at least, the congregants of the church.

 

[Berzerker]

This is also a lie

Last year saw the fewest number of unarmed black people get killed, about 1/4th the number who died in 2015 under Obama.

That was the stat I cited to both Tim and Sommers so they know the context of our discussion and my comment.

Burning down a building is arson, not vandalism...but don't let blindingly obvious facts get in the way of whatever stupidity you are trying so hard to display here.

The trial court determined the terms "vandalism and malicious mischief" encompassed arson within its plain and ordinary meaning and that the insurance carrier was correct in denying coverage.

https://www.propertyinsurancecovera...-can-include-an-intentionally-set-fire-arson/

Yeah that’d be a hate crime dude.

A violent one? How about when 'protesters' loot and burn businesses owned by non-black people? Why else would the black owners of businesses put up signs identifying their color if the looting and burning wasn't based in part on racism?

 

[Crezth]

How about when 'protesters' loot and burn businesses owned by non-black people? Why else would the black owners of businesses put up signs identifying their color if the looting and burning wasn't based in part on racism?

Don't worry the police will make up the difference.


Anyway now for something completely different.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/bluel...-departments-fusion-centers-published-online/

An activist group has published on Friday 296 GB of data they claim have been stolen from US law enforcement agencies and fusion centers.

The files, dubbed BlueLeaks, have been published by Distributed Denial of Secrets (DDoSecrets), a group that describes itself as a "transparency collective."

The data has been made available online on a searchable portal. According to the BlueLeaks portal, the leaked data contains more than one million files, such as scanned documents, videos, emails, audio files, and more.

Interesting highlights from the leaks so far:

1. The FBI uses tweets to scare local law enforcement into thinking they will be defending themselves against extremists.

2. Anyone offering medical aid to the protesters is an extremist, as well as "lawyers" and bail funds.

2a. Hostile "lawyer" extremists includes non-lawyers and/or anyone who takes pictures or videos of police activity during counter-protests.
2b. Anyone wearing "generic clothing," covering their face, or wearing a backpack is also an extremist profile.
2c. Anyone who comes to pay bail or in general is near a police station when protesters are taken is the extremist profile for the bail fund type.​

3. White supremacist groups profiled by the FBI have been known to infiltrate protests posing as antifa false flags.​

So their tactics for dealing with the protests are kinda like counter-insurgency tactics for dealing with an occupied population. Can't wait to see the libertarians go on insisting the People are the enemy, not the beloved State!

 

[Seon]

I’m assuming the “lawyers” they are speaking of are the legal observers. No wonder police have been seen shooting them.

 

[Sommerswerd]

What if someone lives inside the statue?

Depends on how hot she is... and also how much of a bloodthirsty genocidal megalomaniac vampire queen she is... but mostly just how hot she is...

 

[Berzerker]

hot and died far too young

 

[Estebonrober]

Don't worry the police will make up the difference.


Anyway now for something completely different.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/bluel...-departments-fusion-centers-published-online/



Interesting highlights from the leaks so far:

1. The FBI uses tweets to scare local law enforcement into thinking they will be defending themselves against extremists.

2. Anyone offering medical aid to the protesters is an extremist, as well as "lawyers" and bail funds.

2a. Hostile "lawyer" extremists includes non-lawyers and/or anyone who takes pictures or videos of police activity during counter-protests.
2b. Anyone wearing "generic clothing," covering their face, or wearing a backpack is also an extremist profile.
2c. Anyone who comes to pay bail or in general is near a police station when protesters are taken is the extremist profile for the bail fund type.​

3. White supremacist groups profiled by the FBI have been known to infiltrate protests posing as antifa false flags.​

So their tactics for dealing with the protests are kinda like counter-insurgency tactics for dealing with an occupied population. Can't wait to see the libertarians go on insisting the People are the enemy, not the beloved State!

Oh fudge this, we should be pissed the fudge off at this. So glad they did this, ty @anonymous

 

[Takhisis]

Hey, we actually do have a poster called anonymous.

Interesting highlights from the leaks so far:

1. The FBI uses tweets to scare local law enforcement into thinking they will be defending themselves against extremists.

2. Anyone offering medical aid to the protesters is an extremist, as well as "lawyers" and bail funds.
2a. Hostile "lawyer" extremists includes non-lawyers and/or anyone who takes pictures or videos of police activity during counter-protests.
2b. Anyone wearing "generic clothing," covering their face, or wearing a backpack is also an extremist profile.
2c. Anyone who comes to pay bail or in general is near a police station when protesters are taken is the extremist profile for the bail fund type.
3. White supremacist groups profiled by the FBI have been known to infiltrate protests posing as antifa false flags.
So their tactics for dealing with the protests are kinda like counter-insurgency tactics for dealing with an occupied population. Can't wait to see the libertarians go on insisting the People are the enemy, not the beloved State!

Once again I have to highlight the similarity with the teachings of the ‘School of the Americas’.