Borachio
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But by that logic the most faithful person would be the one whose every sense of reason tells them to not believe in God at all.
God exists
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But by that logic the most faithful person would be the one whose every sense of reason tells them to not believe in God at all.
Harv
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So we go from proof to poof?
Angst
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If he still has faith, very much so. Faith overcomes doubt, so there's "net" more of it, arguably.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
For a Christian or any other Abrahamist, it should be.
This is quite correct on intelectual level where you really can observe doubt and faith quite naturally next to each other. On psychic level however this statement is false. You dont need doubt/hate someone to have faith/love in him that would have truly been ridiculous and deeply unsatisfying....
Also psychic faith isnt matter of leap but rather steady and spontaneous flowering of inner strenght...
Angst
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"On a psychic (whatever that means) level this is untrue because I find it funny and don't like it."
"Psychic (whatever that means) faith is steady and spontaneous flowering (whatever that means) because of inner strength (whatever that means)."
timtofly
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He already has. He allowed you the ability to reject the whole purpose of what Jesus was. The whole point of "let His Blood be upon our own hands" applies to those who view Jesus as a mere mortal who was a sinner and in need of Death. If you do not think that Jesus deserved to die, where would that put you? God never punished any one person or group of people for the death of Jesus nor will he ever. It was God's plan. It was the human condition that put Jesus on the Cross. The only punishment would be not accepting what Jesus did, because one refuses to be part of the human condition that put Jesus on the Cross. If one accepts they are part of the human condition that put Jesus on the Cross, then the only punishment is immortality and a life after the current temporal condition.
Faith on it's own does not overcome doubt. The only thing that overcomes doubt is realized faith. Realized faith is not just saying one has faith. There has to be a tangible and physical result for faith to overcome doubt.
The faith that people accept is just a feeling and emotional based acceptance. Faith without a tangible and physical component is dead.
Boy, its like showing a baby how to walk.... Is mothers love for her child intelectual?
Faith can be of different kind and the psychic one is expression of your purest emotions and will power which can not only function separetly of physical reality but also can challenge, conquer and transform it.
Angst
Rambling and inconsistent
Kierkegaard's philosophy about this is not based in thinking "intellectually", he is rather emotional and the doubt part plays into his thoughts about angst and free will.
The mother's love for her child is not "psychic", as far as I'm concerned, at least in the understanding I have of the word "psychic", and you have provided no proper definition of it, you just threw it out there and said that Kierkegaard's conception of love was empty (when it is, on the other hand, quite emotionally intense and meaningful).
When emotion has enough integrity and strenght as not to be spoiled by confusion or reverted into its opposite I call it psychic. I can imagine this is very complex issue and would deserve deep study but I hope we can agree that there are different kind of emotions and different kind of love.
warpus
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If God exists outside of our universe and is not a part of space-time, he may be made up of unimaginable types of particles which don't even exist here and wouldn't make sense logically.
If that's true about God existing outside of space-time, then any images of him seen by people must be a holographic type of projection into our universe from his plane of existence. As such, it wouldn't be possible to touch God, since anything you could touch would only be a representation of God and not actually God itself.
If God exists, he can probably be made out of whatever he wants though, and that would definitely likely include being made out of cheese. And since he's been around for infinity, chances are he's had a chance to use each one of his powers - including the power to be made out of cheese. I doubt he'd ever come down here and tell us that - it would just confuse us and likely crash the world cheese economy by messing with demand and supply... so we'll never know. It's a matter of faith whether you believe the cheese hypothesis or not.
Timsup2nothin
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God is made of god stuff.
madviking
north american scum
What if the multiverse and string theories are false?
Existence-Consciousness-Bliss its called by the Yogis.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
Surely God is made out of dark chocolate
Yeah, you cant miss with that one...
