Goz-12 - 5CC - Large map - Space Race

[Bucephalus]

Buce remember the capital can run 1 turn MA's by disbanding one slave in the city. The airfield can probably be moved to a mountain or hill near Munich once you've taken that city.

Ah, another fine wrinkle, thanks. We can achieve the same result by mining an irrigated plains; we would lose 1 food per turn but the box is pretty full.
But looking at the glut of slaves that we have, I like your idea better.

I'm looking forward to these turns, this game is a lot of fun.

 

[Bucephalus]

Would it be likely that Germany would use it's last remaining worker to found a colony? There are 4 available sources of Uranium in no-man's land, and the only units with free movement are on our other colonies.

 

[zerksees]

Great tip Whomp. You are an expert at getting the most out of the cities that's for sure.

Bucephalus: Germany might have slave workers (or did you check that too?) I'd say it would be OK to leave them go unprotected. If you must have a unit, you could draft one from 4 cities, and join a dead civ worker to cover.

 

[Whomp]

Would it be likely that Germany would use it's last remaining worker to found a colony? There are 4 available sources of Uranium in no-man's land, and the only units with free movement are on our other colonies.

You may want to plant on those sites. I doubt they'd risk sending a worker through the gauntlet since most of their rail routes are cut off hence the attacks I experienced on the oil colony to their south.

 

[Bucephalus]

If you must have a unit, you could draft one from 4 cities, and join a dead civ worker to cover.

I'm unfamiliar with this. Do we get the unit instantly? And I vaguely remember that it has happiness issues. If it does it's probably not worth it, I'm just a little paranoid about nukes; Germany could still have a sting in the tail.

 

[zerksees]

You get the unit immediately and you can move it just like you built it. You will get conscript mech inf at this stage of the game. Of course it adds unhappiness - but only to the city where the unit is drafted. Drafting one citizen is not too bad. It's when you keep doing it turn after turn that the people really start getting upset. Try it in one city (maybe Nampo) to see what the bad effects are. Worst case we need another clown or bump the lux up 10% more.

 

[Whomp]

I don't think it's necessary but maybe I'm overconfident. There was no point where the Germans were able to force my hand. I think we dictate the battlefield by controlling the railnet.

 

[Bucephalus]

Apologies, these are long turns, but I'll have them finished today.

I've played 7 turns and destroyed 31 cities, mostly German. They are down to 38 MI, 25 TOW.

I'm hopeful that Aztecs and Iroquois will be gone by the end, now I have more MA to play with.

With the Mighty Zerksees still to come, I'd say that we are on target to clear our continent in 20.

 

[Bucephalus]

Nothing to be done pre-turn, except to cover the Uranium East of Rojo; I think Whomp is right about us controlling the railnet, but they can reach this one.
Hurry ICBM in Pyong (460g)

Enter:

8 German TOW approach Aluminium colony from the South.


Turn 1:

Pyong > ICBM > MA
BB > ICBM > MA
Nampo > ICBM > MA
Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo >MA > MA

Germany still has no Oil or Uranium.

Gather together our forces so I can better see what I've got to work with. I'm glad to see we've plenty of Arty, my favourite toy. only 8 undamaged MA free at the moment.

Destroy Varna (3-0)
Destroy Buffalo, lost 1 MA to a red-lined TOW (6-1}
Send workers to RR around Caramech; it's preventing passage to the southern German cities, and reinforcement of our Aluminium colony. I can't constrain Zerksees with a ROP.
Destroy Smirna, the last of the German cities in the East. (8-1)
Held up at Munich; I think our pilots are trained by USAF - they hit civilians, buildings, everything but the enemy. Army down to 5 hp.
Move a large stack of Arty + escort to the North of Berlin.

IBT:

German TOW attack Munich stack, lose 1 MI (9-2)

Turn 2:

Seoul > MA >MA
Rojo > MA > MA
Workers finish RR to German flank;
Destroy Lapurdum (11-2)
Send in more Workers to RR, and now the entire Southern flank is open to us.
Destroy Zariqum (13-2)
Take out German Dyes colony - the MI on it was taking pot-shots at passing units. (14-2)
Destroy Rouen (16-2)
Hire new pilots, red-line everythng in Munich; Destroy Munich , lose 1 MA (20-3)
Stack moves in to range of Berlin;
Frustratingly, I've ran out of healthy MA, and I've still got Arty left.

IBT:

Germans attack injured units losing 9 TOW to kill 1 MI (29-4)

Turn 3:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
BB > MA > MA
Nampo > MA > MA
Pyong > MA > MA

Bombard Berlin; Destroy Berlin (40-4)
Destroy Avignon (42-4)
Destroy Tours (44-4)
Destroy Orleons - Theatre lovers everywhere outraged as we raze Shakespeare's Theatre.

IBT:

Babylon wants to renew peace; if I do Zerksees is stuck with a treaty - DOW Babylon

Turn 4:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
Stack to new capital, Leipzig
Destroy New Leipzig (47-4)
Destroy Lyons, sinking Magellans Voyage. (50-4)
Destroy Grenoble (52-4)
Destroy Dijon (54-5)

IBT:

Skirmishing, lose 1 MA (55-5)

Turn 5:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
BB > MA > MA
Nampo > MA > MA
Pyong > MA > MA
Rebase Bombers to new Airstrip
Stack to within range of Liepzig
Destroy Rheims (60-5)
New stack to German core between Hamburg/Chartres
Mop up stray TOW {65-5)
There are enough captured workers to disband 4 in Pyong for 1 turn MA's.

IBT:

Skirmishing, no losses (70-5)

Turn 6:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
BB > MA > MA
Nampo > MA > MA
Pyong > MA > MA

Destroy new Capital Liepzig, taking 18 slaves. ((78-6)
Destroy Eridu (German) (82-6)

I've finaly got some spare MA, so I turn my attention to the Aztecs;
Destroy Ecatepec (85-6)
Destroy Cuatepec (87-6)
Destroy.......somewhere Aztec, sorry missed the name. (89-6)
Destroy Atzcapotzalco (91-7)

IBT:

Nada:

Turn 7:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
BB > MA > MA
Nampo > MA > MA
Pyong > MA > MA


Destroy Nimrud (Babylon) (93-7)
Destroy Hamburg (97-7)
Destroy Chartres (German) (101-7)
Destroy Bescanon (German) (104-7)
Destroy Berdigala (Germany) (107-7)
Destroy Eulbar (Germany) (109-7)
Destroy Nippur (Babylon (112-7)
Destroy Babylon (Babylon) (115-7)
Destroy Akkad (German) (118-7)
Destroy Ellipi (Babylon) (121-7)
Destroy somewhere else Babylonian (124-8)

IBT:

Nada.

Turn 8:

Seoul > MA > MA
Rojo > MA > MA
BB > MA > MA
Nampo > MA > MA
Pyong > MA > MA

Destroy Marseilles (German) (126-8)
Destroy Mari (German) (128-8)
Destroy Sippar (German) (130-8)
Destroy Augustadurum (Babylon) (132-8)
Move two new stacks in to Aztec territory
DOW Iroquois
Destroy Gewarga (Iroquois) (135-8)
Destroy Oil Springs (Iroquois) (140-8)
Destroy Ganogeh (Iroquois) (142-8)
Destroy Chalchihuites (Aztec) (143-9)

IBT:

Pollution hits Seoul, Rojo and Pyong, robbing us of this turn's MA

Turn 9:

Two stacks besieging last Aztec cities
Two stacks besieging Hannover and Heidlburg, Germany's third Capital
Destroy Caughnawaghna (147-11)

IBT:

German TOW stack enters Korean territory

Turn 10:

Destroy Malinalco (Aztec) (151-13)
Destroy Tlacopan (Aztec) (155-14)
Destroy Tamuin (Aztec) (159-15)

Destroy Hastings (German) (163=15)
Destroy Hannover (German) (168-15) Newton's razed - we now have destroyed all Wonders except those we own. We are Philestines.
Destroy Heidlburg (172-15)
I can't reach anything else this turn, so I've left movement on a lot of units for Zerksees to do with as he will.


Just check out the mini-map.

Zerksees, 48 cities down; you have 15 cities remaining, 9 German, 3 Celt, 3 Babs.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/38078/Goz12_810AD_Buce.SAV

 

[Whomp]

Hah! What a map!! Nice work Buce. The stronger military left is the Hittites and their 350 three horse chariots and spears.

We should crank up science for the finish, yes?

 

[Bucephalus]

Hah! What a map!! Nice work Buce.

Thanks Whomp.

I must say, I'm seriously impressed at how you nailed down the railnet; again, you've added yet another string to my bow.

We should crank up science for the finish, yes?

Yeah, I can't see Bismark being much help.

 

[zerksees]

Absolutely awesome. Now I have to do my part.

I laughed about the city names you forgot. You wreck them so fast you forget to write down what they are - I've been there.

 

[Ansar]

lurker's comment: Nice job, Bucephalus! Eliminating two civs in one turnset is quite impressive, IMHO.

Also, looking at the minimap, it seems the AI have finally understood how to play the game (5CC).

 

[Bucephalus]

Absolutely awesome. Now I have to do my part.

I laughed about the city names you forgot. You wreck them so fast you forget to write down what they are - I've been there.

Thanks, Zerksees.

I get so focused on the fighting that I'm sure I sometimes miss noting cities altogether, never mind the name.

lurker's comment: Nice job, Bucephalus! Eliminating two civs in one turnset is quite impressive, IMHO.

Also, looking at the minimap, it seems the AI have finally understood how to play the game (5CC).

Cool, we have lurkers! Thanks, Ansar.

 

[zerksees]

Quick update:
The Celts and Germans live on in history only. The game is now even - The Hittites have their own landmass and 5 cities and we have our own landmass and 5 cities. Pretty sure they have more war units than us for the moment.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to get to some RL and researching nuclear power. Oh and I have some ICBMs to "disband".

Hope to finish tonight or tomorrow. I am on turn 5 - any thoughts about extending these turnsets to 20 turns? After my next turn there won't be much to do except clean up pollution and press enter

 

[Bucephalus]

Oh and I have some ICBMs to "disband".

Hope to finish tonight or tomorrow. I am on turn 5 - any thoughts about extending these turnsets to 20 turns? After my next turn there won't be much to do except clean up pollution and press enter

Seems like a good idea to me.

 

[Whomp]

Sounds good Zerksees. Go for 20. May as well disband the majority of our military too.

 

[zerksees]

Pre flight

Clean up pollution on mountain near Nampo
Knock off a German and a Bab TOW in our territory, and one TOW in the free zone [3-0]
Disband a barb camp that was annoying me
Science is off for some reason. Lone scientist will finish nuclear power in 34, 100% science in 29. Stay at lone scientist for now.

Cut the rails to the eastern half of the continent except for passages I control.
Pepper the invading German TOW with arty
Put 5 MA deep into German territory near Konigsberg and Bonn

IBT
BB: MA -> bomber
Nampo: MA -> bomber
No thanks on the UN vote

Turn 1: 1812 AD
Kill off fleeing TOWs and marine [6-0]

Attack Konigsberg. Defeat a TOW and an MI to clear rader towers, then take 2 MI and 2 TOW. Lost an MA. Raze the city [12-1] +1 city

Attack Bonn. Used too many bombers on Konigsberg. Try to push it and lose 2 MA. Not enough to finish it so just settle for whacking marine under the radar tower. [13-3]

Take the German saltpeter colony defeat defending MI [14-3]. Last thing I need is cavalries running loose in our territory.

Took Zamua from Babylon TOW – autoraze, + 11 gold. [15-3] +2 cities

IBT
Babs want to talk – no thanks

Turn 2: 1814 AD
Defeat 1 TOW, 1 MI and Izibia falls from German control. 2 free arty [17-3] +3 cities

Attack Bonn. 3 MI, 2 TOW fall, we lose one MA and Bonn is razed. [22-4] +4 cities
Attack and raze Nuremburg [25-5] +5 cities
Clear up some strays [28-5]

IBT
BB and Nampo: MA -> MA

Turn 3: 1816 AD
Attack and raze Brennan (German - was that Bremman?) 2 more arty [32-5]
Attack and raze Uruk (Babylon) [37-8]
Attack and raze Shuruppak (Babylon)
Attack and raze Cologne (German)
Plant a spy with Celts, they have 5 inf, 6 TOW and 1 MI. No brainer we DOW Celts immediately
Attack and raze Rutupiae (Celts) [44-8] + 10 cities
Build a transport – disband arty to do it

IBT
Celts fail on a counter attack [45-8]

Turn 4: 1818 AD
Attack and raze Nemausus (Celts) [47-8]
Attack and raze Cataractonium (Celts) [52-8]
Attack and raze Ashur (Babylon) [57-9]
Attack and raze Gayagahee (German) [59-9]
Attack and raze Ratae Coritanorum (German) [61-9] +15 cities

IBT
Knock off two TOW [63-9]
Build a destroyer

Turn 5: 1820 AD
Attack and raze Stuttgart [66-9]. Germans are out of the game. 15 TOW, 6 MI and 1 marine out defending radar towers as their capital is wrecked

Attack and raze Gergovia [70-11]

17 cities wrecked and the challenge is met.
Our war weariness disappears. Science up to 100%. Convert specialists to scientists

Hittites have 2 settler, 2 warrior, 1 archer, 104 spear, 42 longbow, 1 caravel and 89 3-man chariot

We have 146 units. Start disbanding units in Rojo and Pyong to build some ICBMs. Of course that is not how I disbanded the 3 ICBMs we have. Other cities building wealth

Turn 6: 1822 AD
“Disband” two more ICBMs in Hittite territory. Now all their cities are hit

Hittites now have 74 spear, 25 LB, 64 3MC and 1 caravel
We disband enough units to build two more ICBMs in 1 turn

Irrigate all possible tiles around cities. Join workers.

Turn 7: 1824 AD
We are down to 61 units
Got bored. Decided to count our slave workers. Put them in stacks of 40. We have 387 slaves on the mainland
For the record we have 74 free enemy artillery also.

Turn 8: 1826 AD
Nuclear power due in 15 at 100% science

Turn 9: 1828 AD
All cities exc bouncing Bucket on wealth. BB building ships for zerksees’ fancy. At 100% sci we are running deficit of 18 gpt. Not bad

1830 AD – 13 to NP
1832 AD – 12 to NP. Ready to invade Hittites – bringing MA army and two MA. Our first sign of Hittite WW. MM cities
1834 AD – 11 to NP. Wreck 8 units on way to Hattusha [78-11]
1836 AD – 10 to NP. Hattusha is razed [83-11] + 18 cities
1838 AD – 9 to NP. Moving on Tarsus, clearing stray, which are everywhere they should be exc in the cities [87-11] Located the Hittite ship, it is west of us, build a cruise missile.
IBT – Left a 3 HP MA in the open and the Hittites kill it [90-12]. So much for going undefeated against Hittites.
1840 AD – 8 to NP. Tarsus is razed [95-12] + 19 cities
Two MA going after Harran
1842 AD – 7 to NP. Hittites move a bunch of spears into Hattusas. We can’t take them all fast enough. Found 42 in there. Nuke ‘em again. 13 are left. Knock off 8 of those [103-12]
Second transport drops 6 more MA next to Ugarit.
1844 AD – 6 to NP. Raze Harran and Ugarit. I did work on Hattusas a little before attacking Ugarit, but then decided it was landlocked and liked that better. Also wrecked a Hittite settler [118-12] + 21 cities
Made peace with Hittites collecting 4 gold and ROP.
1846 AD – 5 to NP. Not much
1848 AD – 4 to NP. For fun I put the Hittite slaves to work cleaning up some of the ICBMess I created
1850 AD – 3 to NP.
We can build it. We will research the technology.
And we have a slight budget surplus and 12000 gold

I will be curious to see if we can disband units to speed building ship parts.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/27707/goz12_1850AD.SAV

Whomp you are up. Play as many as you like.

 

[zerksees]

Before:

After:

Certainly did not need to disband the ICBMs this way. But I wanted to

 

[Whomp]

1848 AD – 4 to NP. For fun I put the Hittite slaves to work cleaning up some of the ICBMess I created

You are such the humanitarian.

OK I got it and will play some tonight and tomorrow.