Graphics Modification Requests Thread

[SaibotLieh]

I just hoped that the model I had shown could be rigged over the bone structure of your sealion with less effort than creating a new model.
Also is a very realistic model for a walruss and I also already use your sealion as well thus the new resource should look a bit different.

But if you can create something that looks even better I am perfectly open for all ideas.
As long as it looks like a walruss and is thus easy to visually differentiate from a sealion it would be fine.

Okay, try if this works for you. I had to tinker a bit to make it work and it seems to work okay in NifSkope, but I have not tested it in-game so far.

 

[raystuttgart]

@SaibotLieh

Thanks, works like a charm.

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[raystuttgart]

Hi guys,

could somebody help me and animate this Penguin resource?
It is again a converted Unit graphic, so the bone structure is probably worthless.

If somebody already has better model for Penguins than this one that is of course perfectly fine.
I have found this specific model as a Unit in Caveman2Cosmos mod.

It would be cool if they would be wabbling a little bit from left to right and walking in circles.
But like always, I will of course take whatever I get, as long as it is somehow moving.

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[SaibotLieh]

Hi guys,

The NIF of this Llama Resource in the Civ4 Download section is crashing Civ4Col.
Could somebody please convert it for me as an _FX NIF (ShaderNif) version?
I guess I can then just try to use the Horse KFM to animate it, as the link told.

Thanks in advance.

Due to the lack of Civ4Col I could not test, but hopefully the attached version of the Llama resource works for you.

 

[raystuttgart]

... but hopefully the attached version of the Llama resource works for you.

Thanks a lot.
I will try it this evening.

 

[raystuttgart]

@SaibotLieh
Just confirmed that it works great now in Civ4Col.
Thanks again.

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[MightyToad]

I've done the vulture and gull. This was a really interesting one. The only animation of a bird flying that I could think of was the birds in the main menu for BTS. So, I used those and added them to the solar system nif from Final Frontier. I liked that one because the planet bones all orbit at different speeds. This looks better than using a single bone like from the olive press like I was initially thinking. Both of these have the animations built into the nif. So, no KFM.

A question I have is will this be for a resource? Because I don't think sky rats and vultures are good for anything.

Also, I didn't know the canadian geese were going to be used on water. I it could be modified using the same sheep animations to sit lower and appear to be floating. The question is how will they look using the fishing nets or whaling boats when worked.

Will the Ducks, Boobies and Loons be water resources as well? I don't think having the penguins waddling about is possible using low effort hack stuff.

 

[raystuttgart]

A question I have is will this be for a resource?

Yes, e.g. Vultures could give Yield Health to the next adjacent city if worked on, since they clean decaying carcasses that reduces spread of diseases.
(The Yield Health is not produced on the Plots, but our Bonus Ressources can give Yield effects indirectly.)

Gulls could e.g. be hunted for Feathers and Food which is pretty realistic for the early colonial times.
(There is a "Hunting Feature" in our mod. Which creates 2 separate Yields by Hunting Profession.)

e.g. Hunting can produce these Yield combos:

• Fur and Food ("Hunting" feature)
  
• Premium Fur and Food ("Hunting" feature)
  
• Feathers and Food ("Bird Hunting" still in implementation)

Fur, Premium Fur, Feathers can then be used to produce further goods.
(Like Fur Coats, Pillows, ...)

Those are then transported and traded.
(e.g. with Native Cities, Europe, Africa Port Royal other Europeans.)

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Also our mod does not only have "fishing nets" as coastal improvements on fishable resources.
It also has "hunting stage" that is only available on water animal resources.

Well again, different game with lots of differences.
They basically just share the same engine.

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Bonus Resources worked on can also simply trigger effects in the City. (Mostly used for our Health System.)
If there is not something in our mod that already fits, I will simply program something, since I am a feature programmer.

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Because I don't think sky rats and vultures are good for anything.

Probably not in Civ4BTS, because Civ4BTS has only so few Yields, but our mod already has about 70 yields and I intend to introduce even more.
There are vast production chains and trade chains that you can use. Also all the other Features like (Health, Religion, Culture, Liberty Bells, ...) work vastly different.

Summary:

When you think about Civ4Col / WTP think about Anno series, not Civ4BTS.
The gameplay of Anno is much closer to WTP than the gameplay of Civ4BTS.

 

[raystuttgart]

I've done the vulture and gull.

They look awesome !!!
Their animations work perfectly.

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[raystuttgart]

The question is how will they look using the fishing nets or whaling boats when worked.

You imagine Civ4BTS gameplay for WTP (the largest Civ4Col mod) which is not the case.
In Civ4BTS there is only fishing fish on water. --> Food (Fish)

But in WTP coastal water animals can also be hunted. ("Hunting" feature.)
("Bird Hunting" is a new feature I am currently implementing that does not yet exist in previous releases.)

• We e.g. already have proession "Seal Hunter" that hunts e.g. seals or fur seals on water. --> Furs + Food
• We e.g. already have a profession "Trapper" that can also hunt sea otters on water. --> Premium Furs + Food

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To simplify our mod:

Imagine "Anno" being developed since 13 years on the Civ4BTS engine.
It is an "economy and society sim" in the colonial times up to War of Indendence.
(Thus very strongly trying to be immersive and focussed on one time period only.)

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For more infos and better understanding:

Here is one of the steam guides if you want to read more.
Alternatively there are also youtube videos from our community like this one.

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This is for example how our City Screen looks like:
(It is a screenshot of an older release though.)

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Summary:

A lot of stuff that makes little sense in Civ4BTS works perfectly great in WTP.
When thinking about WTP forget most of the Civ4BTS gameplay, especially for Yields.

 

[raystuttgart]

Also, I didn't know the canadian geese were going to be used on water.

They are perfectly fine as they are.

I am not even sure if we will put them on Lakes (a dedicated Terrain in our mod) or on Taiga, Tundra or Wetlands (Terrains in our mod).
The current release is still in the middle of its development phase and we will probably still change much after internal testing.

Will the Ducks, Boobies and Loons be water resources as well?

Most likely yes, I was intending to put them on "Large Rivers", "Lakes", "Ice Lakes" or "Coasts" or "Shallow Coasts". (All of them dedicated Terrains in our mod.)
But just like above, I might also put them on land Terrains as well if internal testing shows that balancing would be better if they were on land.

Summary:
You could simply create them just like the "Canada Goose" and it should be fine.
The current development branch of WTP is still an alpha and lots of things may still change.

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Comment:
If you create them like the "Canada Goose", Civ4BTS mods may use it as well.
So let us create it in a way that not just WTP can use it. The more mods profit, the better.

 

[raystuttgart]

I don't think having the penguins waddling about is possible using low effort hack stuff.

I just naively thought it was easy to do something like that.

If any other solution works better, I will take the other solution.
If there is currently no way to animate them without massive effort, then we can also live without them having an animation.

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As I said, I have no idea how much effort it is to animate.
I will take whatever is possible and accept of course if something is not possible.

 

[MightyToad]

I got the rest of the birds. I modified the booby quite a bit. The feet were comically over sized. I also removed the cool feathers from the penguin because there were removed from the texture, and I didn't have the original. Shame, cause rock hoppers look awesome and stylish with their head gear.
I included sheep animations that have the sounds removed since birds don't sound like sheep.
They are all rigged to sheep. I rigged the whole body of the penguins to the leg bones in an attempt to simulate the penguin walk. It looks semi-convincing.
I suppose the boobies could be rigged to the FF solar system bones so they swim in circles, I figured that would look lame IMHO.

 

[raystuttgart]

@MightyToad
Awesome.
I will test them tomorrow.

I am a bit tired and unconcetrated today.
Seems like I somehow caught a cold.

Edit:
Tested and verified that thew work perfectly.
(see below)

 

[raystuttgart]

@MightyToad

Why do some of the ressources you created use the Sheep_NO_SOUND.kfm and others still use the Sheep.kfm?
What is the difference between those 2 other than obviously one having sound and the otherone not?

Otherwise the resources work perfectly in Civ4Col.

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[raystuttgart]

Ok guys, here I am again already.
I know what some may think: "How much do you want?" ... "Tree Fiddy" ... ...

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But we simply still have more Bonus Ressources that are missing animations.
Good news: Those seem to be the last ones though. (Unless I missed one in my checks.)

• Cabybara: Hunted for Fur and Food
• Tapir: Hunted for Fur and Food
• Redfox: Hunted for Premium Fur
• Arcticfox: Hunted for Premium Fur
• Iguana: Not completely sure yet. Giving a bit of food to survive in a desert?

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Credits for original graphics:
Those were originally Unit graphics from Caveman2Cosmos mod.
(Thus also the skeleton most likely does not make sense for a resource.)

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Since they are wild animals, not living in large groups, it might be better to have them only as a pair of 2.
If they would simply be walking / running around a bit, I would be perfectly happy.

But as always, as long as it moves, I will take whatever I get.
Thanks in advance for all help.

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[MightyToad]

I am a bit tired and unconcetrated today.
Seems like I somehow caught a cold.

Yeah, I got a booster shot friday, and it really kicked my ass yesterday.

Why do some of the ressources you created use the Sheep_NO_SOUND.kfm and others still use the Sheep.kfm?
What is the difference between those 2 other than obviously one having sound and the otherone not?

I did the "sheep_NO_SOUND" after the other birds were already done. It is identical to the vanilla sheep animations except I removed the sheep sound effect. You don't have to use it.

I've made a button for everything, but I was wondering how to set up a font button. I am assuming <FontButtonIndex> refers to the unit/resource atlas. If so, is it possible to add the individually rather than making a new atlas?

 

[raystuttgart]

<FontButtonIndex> refers to the unit/resource atlas

No, this actually does not refer to the Button, but to the tiny GameFont icon.
(It is the ID of the icons in the "row for Bonus Ressources" in GameFonts.)

e.g. the new GamFonts I recently created for our mod look like this:
(The 2 row at the bottom is the "row for Bonus Ressources" in our mod. Its IDs can be changed or read by DLL.)

By the way:
You can create any layout of GameFont you want.
But you may have to adjust DLL referencing accordingly.
So every mod can basically have different GameFonts.

As a small info:
@Nigthinggale wrote a small ingame debugger for GameFonts for WTP. (see spoiler)
It is really useful and if anybody wants to use the code he is of course welcome to do so.
(We also have other several other ingame debuggers and ingame modding tools of course.)

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The Buttons can easily be referenced as a file path to a single file like e.g. this:

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<Button>Art/interface/buttons/Beaver_Button.dds</Button>

But you can also reference Buttons by coordinates in an Atlas (of course also a file):

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<Button>,Art/Interface/Buttons/Unit_Resource_Atlas.dds,6,13</Button>

 

[<Nexus>]

I know what some may think: "How much do you want?" ... "Tree Fiddy" ... ...

Well, I was rather thinking: "If Ray looks like this when retired from modding, what does he look like when active?"

 

[raystuttgart]

Well, I was rather thinking: "If Ray looks like this when retired from modding, what does he look like when active?"

I revoked my retirement from public modding once more a while ago. So no, this old modder is still active.
(I tried to explain why I so often retired and then later returned to public modding in the last 13 years - see here.)