Greatest Naval Commander in History

Thomas Cochrane...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane

A hero of Britain, Chile, Brazil, Peru and Greece for his naval exploits and a champion of defeating corruption in British politics and the Admiralty.

I've read plenty about him and it is just amazing, puts Hornblower to shame :D
 
kittenOFchaos said:
Thomas Cochrane...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cochrane

A hero of Britain, Chile, Brazil, Peru and Greece for his naval exploits and a champion of defeating corruption in British politics and the Admiralty.

I've read plenty about him and it is just amazing, puts Hornblower to shame :D

:goodjob: My thoughts exactly.
 
skadistic said:
Adm. Nimits........

Chester Nimitz gets my 2nd place... definitely the finest fleet commander.
 
sorry guys.
its NELSON ALL THE WAY!

read up on him and you find a humane, human, bold warrior.
a leader that his troops would willingly DIE for.

add to that his exploits and you get the greatest naval commander.
 
Bombardment of Copenhagen?

Not heroic.

Real problem with those 18th C naval skippers was their greed for prize money.

Corchrane had honesty and integrity. He didn't believe in a crusade against Republicanism, he didn't blindly follow the system's rules.

Neither did Nelson all the time... but Nelson's memory is somewhat tainted by Copenhagen, not to mention the discipline imposed on his navy.
 
CruddyLeper said:
Bombardment of Copenhagen?

Not heroic.

Real problem with those 18th C naval skippers was their greed for prize money.

Corchrane had honesty and integrity. He didn't believe in a crusade against Republicanism, he didn't blindly follow the system's rules.

Neither did Nelson all the time... but Nelson's memory is somewhat tainted by Copenhagen, not to mention the discipline imposed on his navy.
i see nothing wrong with giving the sailors some proper rewards.
its not like only the english were doing this? is it?
and you do have to actually PAY for your wars.
better to make your enemies pay... no?
and NO, i dont want toargue about the justifiability of warfare.

NO commander will EVER be "untainted" by a few mistakes.
let him who is, fire the first volley :D
all in all i still think nelson merits the all time greatest badge :worship:
 
Yi-sun Shin of Korea was the greatest naval commander in history, Nelson was the second. You can read about his exploits in the Korean War of the 1500s on wikipedia or for more detail "The Influence of the Sea on The Political History of Japan" by George Alexander Ballard of the Royal Navy: "It is always difficult for Englishmen to admit that Nelson ever had an equal in his profession, but if any man is entitled to be so regarded, it should be this great naval commander of Asiatic race who never knew defeat and died in the presence of the enemy; of whose movements a track-chart might be compiled from the wrecks of hundreds of Japanese ships lying with their valiant crews at the bottom of the sea, off the coasts of the Korean peninsula... and it seems, in truth, no exaggeration to assert that from first to last he never made a mistake, for his work was so complete under each variety of circumstances as to defy criticism... His whole career might be summarized by saying that, although he had no lessons from past history to serve as a guide, he waged war on the sea as it should be waged if it is to produce definite results, and ended by making the supreme sacrifice of a defender of his country. (The Influence of the Sea on The Political History of Japan, pp. 66–67.)"
 
Fleet Lord Horatio Hornblower's got my vote.
 
Captain Thread Necro gets my vote.

Welcome to CFC Ace1234. :)
 
Maybe not the greatest naval commanders ever, but Andrea Doria and Don Juan de Austria are a couple sixteenth century names I'll throw out there.
 
Either Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson or Thomas Cochrane.
Wouldn't this better be placed in the history forum?
 
What a no-brainer
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Of course. How could we forget Picard dressed up like French captain in the Generations Movie.
 
Men like Karl Donitz and Chester Nimitz were mainly known for their administrative skills - like calling George Marshall a great field commander. Bertram Ramsey and Richmond Turner were amphibious force commanders, successful in their operations, but not real battle commanders.

I would consider men like Raymond Spruance and Horatio Nelson the "Great Naval Commanders of History". Lots of Admirals won a single big battle (Lysander defeated the Athenians once and won a war). Great Commanders should be successful over time, winning several battles or campaigns, and contributing materially to their respective nation's victory or survival.
 
The standouts so far mentioned in this thread seem to be Yi, Nelson and Spruance.

De Ruyter is another commander that could be considered as well.
 
Men like Karl Donitz and Chester Nimitz were mainly known for their administrative skills - like calling George Marshall a great field commander. Bertram Ramsey and Richmond Turner were amphibious force commanders, successful in their operations, but not real battle commanders.

I would consider men like Raymond Spruance and Horatio Nelson the "Great Naval Commanders of History". Lots of Admirals won a single big battle (Lysander defeated the Athenians once and won a war). Great Commanders should be successful over time, winning several battles or campaigns, and contributing materially to their respective nation's victory or survival.

When mentioning ancient commanders, one probably shouldn't forget Themistocles. He was predominantly a politician who raised up an extra 200 triremes which was of crucial importance to the Greeks during the Second Persian invasion, as he used them to sink the majority of the Persian fleet.

What makes this greater however is that the forces on both sides were evenly matched skill wise. The sailors on both sides were experienced veterans using nearly identical ships. I've also read, but not gotten hard confirmation on this, that the nearly all the sailors on both sides were of Greek descent.

So it really boils down to Themistocles' ability to command, as opposed to the quality of troops winning the battles.
 
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