Greatest Ottoman Sultan?

Greatest Sultan?


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Osman Gazi I founder of the Ottoman Empire defeated Byzantines at Bapheon, sorrounded Bursa and laid stage for its fall.

Orhan Gazi I son of Osman, seized Bursa made capital, seized Uskudar and Izmit, took Terzympe and secured Galliopoli and got Ottoman first toehold in Europe

Murad I the God-Like One greatly expanded Ottoman lands in Balkans won a phyrric victory in battle of Kosovo Polje and died in battle by Serb treacherary but Lazar of Serbia also killed.

Bayezid I the Thunderbolt present at battle of Kosovo Polje brilliant, defeated and killed brother Yakub and started tradition of fractide ambitious, vast expansion of Ottoman lands in Balkans and Anatolia, crushed rebellions, expanded at Serb, Bulgarian and Wallachian expense defeated Karaman expanded in Anataloi against Beyliks. Defeated Crusade of Nicopolis. Undoing came when Timur the Great defeated him at Battle of Ankara in 1402 resulting in loss of Anatolia.

Mehmed I following the bloody Ottoman Interregum rose to power defeated his brothers and rebellions and outside invasion in the civil war and kept the Empire together and revived it and recovered some lost land.

Murad II continued to recover lost land in Balkans and Anatolia defeated Crusade of Varna, broke Hungrian power.

Mehmed II the Conqueror took Constantinople, defeated Venice, took Otranto in Italy, expanded in Anatolia defeated Uzun Hasan built great Ottoman navy, vassalized Crimean Khante, brought Wallachia and Moldovia under, established the Sultan as absoloute power, brought things under state control and codified the law of fractide.

Selim the Grim conquered Syria and Egypt and defeated Safavids took Tabriz, crushed Mamluks brought Mecca and Medina under his rule and truely made the Ottomans an Muslim Empire for the first time.

Sulyeman the Law Giver, the Magnificent does he need any explanation? Under him the Ottomans were a true world power of epic proportion. Hungary was crushed in the Battle of Mohcas, Vienna was seiged, Ottoman forces wintered in the French Riveria, Ottoman ships engaged the Portguese in India and as far as Malacca and Indoonesia, if there was a superpower at this time it was the Ottomans, and of course his law code. From the Meditterean, to North Africa, to Italy, his armies marched, he defeated the Safavids, reformed the administration and brought the Ottoman Empire to the zenith of its power and culture.

Murad IV Gazi fought against Persia took Mesoptamia, and Azerbaijan and proved to be a great commander. One of the last warrior Sultans personally lead army, cracked down on corruption. Second Seige of Vienna and all that

Mahmud II for his reforms and stuff which was one of the major reform attempts, effectively started modernization of the Ottomans and laid the ground for the Tanzimat institued military and administrative reforms.

Abdulmecid I actually implemented the Tanzimat.
 
Mehmed II spoke seven languages (including Turkish, Greek, Hebrew, Arabic, Persian and Latin) when he was 21 years old (the age at which he conquered Constantinople).

I'm pretty sure this is going to give me a life crisis along the lines of "Well, what the f--- have you been doing with your life?" when I'm 21.
 
It has to be Suleiman for me. Even though the end of his reign you can see some stagnation that would become common for the Ottoman empire of later years.

I do think Selim is greatly underrated when compared to his grandfather and son, on a numbers game he grew the empire by at least a third (this is based on my very rough memory)
 
For someone who ideologically believes that it's unconditionally righteous to betray any monarch ever, you sure seem to be praising a lot of monarchs in this thread.
 
It has to be Suleiman for me. Even though the end of his reign you can see some stagnation that would become common for the Ottoman empire of later years.
Same here. Although Mehmed II comes as a close second in my preferences. :)

Mehmed II the Conqueror took Constantinople, defeated Venice, took Otranto in Italy, expanded in Anatolia defeated Uzun Hasan built great Ottoman navy, vassalized Crimean Khante, brought Wallachia and Moldovia under, established the Sultan as absoloute power, brought things under state control and codified the law of fractide.
Funny how you put Crimea in a different category as Wallachia and Moldova, although all three of them were vassals, and not integral parts of the empire. Yes, I will continue saying that in every thread in which I see the misconception present. :p

P.S.: I'm not sure a multiple-choice poll with a question that contains the word "greatest" is really the best idea, but I took advantage of the feature to vote for bth Suleiman and Mehmed II.
 
I voted for Suleiman, but all the first nine mentioned were more than capable. One left out, Bayezid II was a consolidator rather than a conqueror, but was also capable. The Ottoman Empire had ten good sultans in a row until Selim the Sot broke the streak.
 
Suleiman is the best known of course, as a great statesman with some vision. Many of the high water marks mentioned here were occasions of Turkish defeats however.
Best general - I would give it to Selim I or this Murad IV - now that was an interesting guy. When he wasn't conquering he went around personally clobbering people to enforce his anti-tobacco, coffee and liquor laws, and welded a mace weighing 60 kg with one hand. He died of Cirrhosis of the liver.
 
You seem to have mixed Mehmed Murad IV, but I assume you meant Murad. For me it's a tie between Suleiman, Mehmed II, and Murad IV. Murad seems to fall short in actual accomplishments, but the oddity that was his successful attempt at order in a period of general disorder is amazing. This not even considering both Mehmed II and Murad IV troubled juvenile years. I keep getting stuck at "Well if he hadn't done this or if he", but nearly all the great Sultans tripped in a significant way.
 
Selim Yavuz defeated crypto-Bedreddinites and the Safaviyeh rebels that almost brought down the entire empire during the reign of Bayezid II. Also he kinda conquered Egypt. Also Yavuz is just a cool epithet.
 
welded a mace weighing 60 kg with one hand.

Excuse me for being a little hesitant about believing that tidbit. 60k is one hell of a lot of weight to do anything with one hand, this guy must have been incredibly strong.

Edit: Sorry I did wikipedia him and found an un-cited statement saying the same thing and that he would wrestle several opponents at once. But still, he must have been a monster indeed.
 
Excuse me for being a little hesitant about believing that tidbit. 60k is one hell of a lot of weight to do anything with one hand, this guy must have been incredibly strong.

Edit: Sorry I did wikipedia him and found an un-cited statement saying the same thing and that he would wrestle several opponents at once. But still, he must have been a monster indeed.

It is hard to believe, but apparently some of his oversized weapons are on display at the Topkapi. I would think if you have the strength to heft and swing a 132 pound mace with one hand, you could do twice as much damage swinging a 40 lb. hammer (I get a sore wrist thinking about it) with about 3 times the speed and agility (E being = 1/2 mv^2).

Selim Yavuz defeated crypto-Bedreddinites and the Safaviyeh rebels that almost brought down the entire empire during the reign of Bayezid II. Also he kinda conquered Egypt. Also Yavuz is just a cool epithet.

The first part sounds pretty cryptic in itself. Were they ethnic, religious, or both ?
'Yavuz' meant the 'stern' or 'grim' or something like that, which might be cool as long as you aren't one of his unlucky officers or viziers on a bad day.
 
whichever sultan that was most friendly with Byzantium. i forgot which one.
 
Orhan I? He married a Byzantine princess (there were political reasons), but I wouldn't call Ottoman-Byzantine relations "friendly".

He took advantage of the civil war and got the fortress of Tezympe and later Gallipoli through a stroke of luck and then never vacated it and then I believe it was Murad to vassalized the Byzantines.
 
That would be Mehmed II for putting it out of its misery.

that is a good point.

Orhan I? He married a Byzantine princess (there were political reasons), but I wouldn't call Ottoman-Byzantine relations "friendly".

that makes the house of Osman related to the Byzantine Royal Family. that alone makes the ottoman empire pretty much an Islamic version of Byzantium. ( i hear mehmed two kept the Byzantine administration more or less intact)
 
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