Guilty of rape by deception

[Ziggy Stardust]

Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

The court ruled that Kashur should receive a jail term and rejected the option of a six-month community service order. He was said to be seeking to appeal.

Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."

Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted as saying: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?

"Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."

Arabs constitute about 20% of Israel's population, but relationships between Jews and Arabs are rare. There are few mixed neighbourhoods or towns, and Arabs suffer routine discrimination.

Israeli MPs are considering a law requiring prospective Israeli citizens to declare loyalty to Israel as a "Jewish, democratic state". Many Arabs would balk at swearing allegiance to a state which they see as explicitly excluding or marginalising them.

Dan Meridor, a deputy prime minister in Binyamin Netanyahu's government, is opposed to the proposal. "Why does every bill need the word 'Jewish' in it – to show the Arab citizens that it doesn't belong to them? Then we're all shocked when they radicalise their stance.

"The majority doesn't need to remind the minority that it is in fact a minority all the time," he added.

Shocking: Guy lies to chick to have sex.
Court: 18 months.

 

[Souron]

Needless to say: harsh.

 

[Winner]

Needless to say: harsh.

The right word is insane.

In other news, Hamas banned women from smoking hookah. Someone realized they're still having fun, which was unacceptable.

 

[Ayn Rand]

Does this mean that we have all been raped, and are all rapists?

Israel definitely lost the plot on this one.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Christ all kneejerk blighty Winner.

In other news, make a damn thread about the other news.

@Ayn. Yes. At least every time she has an "orgasm".

 

[Mise]

Makes a mockery of actual rape victims.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

I wonder if she wore make-up. That might have been rape by deception.

 

[Winner]

Christ all kneejerk blighty Winner.

In other news, make a damn thread about the other news.

We need to maintain balance and perspective, don't we?

 

[Snorrius]

Well, rape by deception is nice addition to Anglo-Saxon statutory rape. Both things are ridiculous to be named as "rape".

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

We need to maintain balance and perspective, don't we?

And focus! Don't forget focus.

 

[Volum]

A guy that lied to get sex? Oh the horror! 18 months is far to lenient, we have to send a message that we don't accept this kind of behavior! Death Penalty for all men who lie to get sex!
I say men because its common knowledge that women would never do anything like this, they don't even like sex.

an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

She sounds a little......easy.

 

[LucyDuke]

This is not rape.

 

[Silurian]

From the Independent

Sabbar Kashur, a 30-year-old delivery man, met the woman by chance in West Jerusalem, the Jewish sector, and within minutes of falling into conversation, they headed to a nearby office block to have sex. Mr Kashur told the woman, who has not been identified, that his name was Daniel to make her believe that he was Jewish, and that he was single and looking for a long-term relationship. It was only later that she learned he was Palestinian, prompting her to file charges of rape.

The woman initially accused Mr Kashur under oath of a brutal rape against her consent, a charge that carries a heavy jail sentence. But when Mr Kashur's lawyer mounted his own investigation and disproved her claims, the Jerusalem District Court agreed to a plea bargain.

Better be carefull if you go on Holiday to Isreal

 

[Mise]

Is there anywhere in the middle east that doesn't suck?

 

[Snorrius]

Well, they have not statutory "rape".

 

[Berzerker]

wow, that sounds like racism

 

[Leifmk]

Effing ridiculous.

A just punishment for a "crime" like this would be the court issuing a statement saying "this guy is a bit of a douche".

 

[Bill3000]

Why is the punishment 18 months in jail, anyway? The punishment for raping a woman under Jewish Law is a compensation of 50 shekels of silver to the father. (Current silver price of $17.72 per ounce) That's ~$354 in current silver prices, or 1,367 Israeli shekels. In addition, the woman must be married immediately.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Good way to start a serious relationship, meet in a bar and have sex in a nearby building.

 

[Silurian]

Bill@

That is for a virgin,

I do not think this women was a virgin.
She went to a bar, had sex within minutes of meeting some one.