Håkan Eriksson

Håkan Eriksson

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I would like to say one thing regarding my post "American flag" that I didn't got the chanse to do becouse two moderators decided to close it.

Some days ago I posted a post called "American flag". It's content was this:

I am sick of people saying the American flag is a symbol of freedom. To me the American flag is a symbol of capitalism, corporate greed, police brutality, and government corruption for those under the age of 60, death penlaty, children with guns, war. What is sickening is that people are flying that symbol of oppression like it's something to be proud of. The only way I will fly so-called "old glory" is that if it was on fire.......

This was a stupid post I admit it. But it was wath I feelt after I heard a american on the news that sad something about The American flag and how he almost described it as his god. After I posted that post I posted a nother one becouse I knew my previus post was going to get a lot of peole upset.

The second post looked like this:

Ok, just to be clear: Regarding the attack on America.

The terrorist attack against the US was a terrible and very bad thing. I would rely like to se the responsible dead. I feel for the American people but I hope that this would be a wake up call for you Americans to stop being so prejudiced,against:

1)people of diffrent races (both blacks AND whites)
2)diffrent genders (no,your genetailia does not make you superior)
3)financial status.

It isn't good but this is what america gets for being so intolerant of others who are less fortunate.


Wath I meant with this post was that people in Afgahnistan for instance are less fortunate that the people in US. And they get brain washed into fundamentalists by a stupid goverment. Then they get pissed of when the US interfeer in their goverments work becouse they aren't a democracy or wath ever. Then they say "We don't like the US to interfeer" or something else with more ********** in it. Then the US thinks he wath kind of stupid people aren't they! They need to be bombed. As I see it then Americans are intolerant and prejudiced against the people with less financial status or other races. USA don't try to understand.

Maybe I didn't sad this clear enugh, but it's not all that easy to write a perfect statement in English and find all the right words.

After my second post i get called stupid by starlifter, saying I'm lika people that belives that the world is flat. Goodyhut made a post I realy didn't understand much of but the bottom line was that I didn't know wath I wa talking about. Then there was some other posts. Then BlueMonday states that I don't know anything about America (wich I do btw, but that's not the main point) and that I have a bad attitude. Later BlueMonday shows realy how much HE knows about Sweden when he say that we are people whose day consists solely of saunas and sex. I as he answerd to a thing about Sweden with bloody hands my post was:

Sweden with bloody hands.... yeah like 200 years ago was our last war...... your (USA) last war is going on.

Just think about one thing. Wath is the reason that some "Arabic" people hate USA and not Sweden.


Maybe I can't speak English but I connect "with bloody hands" with war. And made my point that we haven't got any war since 200 years and the US is in war right now, so how got the most bloody hands?

Then as a second thing in my post I ask people to think about why people hate US and not Sweden. It think they hates the US becouse they are bombarded with propaganda from thier goverment who don't like the US becouse the US don't "mind thier own bussnies".

After my post BlueMonday makes a new very good post were he says this:

Some Islamic people hate the U.S. becuase they are doing the same thing you're doing: making a precursor judgement. They see only the bad things America does in Palestine and the rest of the world (just like you). And they assume that all America is bad and awful and corrupt and it people are all evil and deserve to die (just like you). And they blind themselves to the all the bad things they do and how awful their leaders are (also, just like you).

That's the issue at the core of this whole f***-up. They don't understand us, and we don't understand them. Maybe if we all saw the forest for the trees we could avoid this debachery. But we don't. We illustrate illusions for ourselves. You don't know s*** about my country, and I don't know s*** about yours. From now on, I'm going to assume that all Swedes are as narrow-minded and hateful as you.


Here BlueMonday says that I'm just as good as any terrorist. That I want every American to die. And that I'm blind to the bad things their leaders do. Once again he says that I don't know anything about America. Then he also calls me hatefull and says that every Swedish person is that to.

I must object to all these things. they are just not true and can't se how I could have made such a image of myself to him.

Later on rmsharpe blames me for the poletic the Swedish goverment had when my mother just were born. And basicly says that everyone in Sweden are Natzis.

Then Alcibiaties of Athenae with support from Cornmaster decides to close the thread. And in his post he blames me for USA bashing. And he says that I hate the US and he says "You want to talk about this subject, than discuss, do not flame." He finishes with a threat that if i post again he will delet it if I don't "say it right" wath ever that means.

Now people (floppa21 for instance) also starts to post posts saying I hate Americans, and I don't think that is funny since I don't hate America.


I don't feel like I have been treated right in this matter and I would like to know if people thik that. If you realy se me as some kind of stupid America hater who are worth as much as a worm then I will not bother you again.



I don't want any: :cry:, :midfinger, :rocket: or :lol: Serius replies please.



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Seriously - People shouln't post so much info in a single thread... It seems like an interesting thread but I won't sit here for 1/2 an hour reading it..
 
Originally posted by G-Man
Seriously - People shouln't post so much info in a single thread... It seems like an interesting thread but I won't sit here for 1/2 an hour reading it..

Read it and you can have your own opinion later. Don't read it and I wont take your opinion in this matter any serius.
 
u make me be ashamed of being swedish u know that? u sound like gudryn schyman laying the blame on the americans, is it the american peoples fault thet are rich? hell no!
and would u like to share your wealth with a bunch of ingrateful punks that spend all day burning the US flag(or swedish) hell no!
it remindes me of what i read in the local newspaper, that a swedish politician blames the september 11th attack on the AMERICANS!!!! and in my school there are plenty of arabs that dont like swedish people, and im not a racist. it is people like u that makes this world the ****ed up place that it is, thats one thing i really hate about swedish people(im part american) is that they spend half the time saying how bad the americans are and whet they do is so wrong, while the other half they try to copy the americans, thats so ****ing stupid!!!
and all the time i hear theese stupid jokes about the WTC, but when i say a taliban joke and a moslem joke i get called a racist, and that its not funny cuz innocent civilians are dying in afghanistan(as opposed to the us?) and now they are sreading anthrax all over the us, if i hafd my way we would go and kill every one of these moslem fanatics(note that i have no problems woth moslems, i have several friends that are moslems) and sadam and mulla omar and khatami and all of those **** for brains.

there, ive made my peace.
 
Originally posted by Håkan Eriksson
Read it and you can have your own opinion later. Don't read it and I wont take your opinion in this matter any serius.

I tried reading it. I just wanted you to write things more briefly, because not all the people here can read English as quickly as others, and these long posts automatically leave us out of the debate.
 
Originally posted by .:KNAS:.
u make me be ashamed of being swedish u know that? u sound like gudryn schyman laying the blame on the americans, is it the american peoples fault thet are rich? hell no!
and would u like to share your wealth with a bunch of ingrateful punks that spend all day burning the US flag(or swedish) hell no!
it remindes me of what i read in the local newspaper, that a swedish politician blames the september 11th attack on the AMERICANS!!!! and in my school there are plenty of arabs that dont like swedish people, and im not a racist. it is people like u that makes this world the ****ed up place that it is, thats one thing i really hate about swedish people(im part american) is that they spend half the time saying how bad the americans are and whet they do is so wrong, while the other half they try to copy the americans, thats so ****ing stupid!!!
and all the time i hear theese stupid jokes about the WTC, but when i say a taliban joke and a moslem joke i get called a racist, and that its not funny cuz innocent civilians are dying in afghanistan(as opposed to the us?) and now they are sreading anthrax all over the us, if i hafd my way we would go and kill every one of these moslem fanatics(note that i have no problems woth moslems, i have several friends that are moslems) and sadam and mulla omar and khatami and all of those **** for brains.

there, ive made my peace.


HAVE YOU ACCTUALLY READ ANYTHING i HAVE WRITTEN?

You say :

"it is people like u that makes this world the ****ed up place that it is"

"u make me be ashamed of being swedish u know that?"



Can you please motivate this things for me. I can't se how this could describe me. Despite that I mostly agrea with you. I can't understad why you writes this as a thing against me.
 
Originally posted by G-Man


I tried reading it. I just wanted you to write things more briefly, because not all the people here can read English as quickly as others, and these long posts automatically leave us out of the debate.

It's like that for me to sometimes. I'm no english man either.
 
yes, i did read what u wrote, but part of i was blowing out a little bit of steam to, but most of it i think fit in really well on u. u seem to be just like thos demonstrators in gothenburg, hating macdonalds and stuff, and i mean how can one hate mcdonalds?
but when u make those stupid ass remarks, one can not help getting a little bit pissed off. lets go to ur remark on the US flag, to me it seems like it is the only flag that actually represents something, to me it represents democrasy in the free world, to these fanatics it represents great satan, and the gun laws are a bit dumb, yes but they were there since the american revolution and no one has yet dared to remove them, but hopefully that will change. and there is a large gap between rich and poor in the US that SHOULD be bridged but that aint as easy as it sounds, beacause the most human of all emotions stands in the way, greed........
i hope this has enlightend u....
 
I was going to close this topic....because I envisioned it to be a scream/flame fest. But I decided not too. And look at what it has developed into. A SCREAM AND FLAME FEST!!! But regardless of this I'm going to leave it open for now.

And Håkan, you need to stop complaining and take action!!! (About your believes...not against me or CFC. :))
 
and america being intolerate? every time the europeans are in trouble they scream for the US to help them, but when they get their help thes genioses come and say "why are u interfering?
this has nothing to do with america!" and when these terrorists go and kill innocent people and they expect the world to protect them (wich it DOES) and the US retaliates everybody come with their stupid remarks sayin "boohoo civilians die" civilians ALWAYS die in war, always has been always will happen, but there would be much less civilian casualties if these fanatics wouldnt camp out near civilians, or use them as human shields, i think what the us is doing is very right
 
the EU flag represent a bunch of fat rich people that make desicions regarding the poor people, it represents greed, capitalism, and isolationism (atleast to me)
 
Originally posted by .:KNAS:.
yes, i did read what u wrote, but part of i was blowing out a little bit of steam to, but most of it i think fit in really well on u. u seem to be just like thos demonstrators in gothenburg, hating macdonalds and stuff, and i mean how can one hate mcdonalds?
but when u make those stupid ass remarks, one can not help getting a little bit pissed off. lets go to ur remark on the US flag, to me it seems like it is the only flag that actually represents something, to me it represents democrasy in the free world, to these fanatics it represents great satan, and the gun laws are a bit dumb, yes but they were there since the american revolution and no one has yet dared to remove them, but hopefully that will change. and there is a large gap between rich and poor in the US that SHOULD be bridged but that aint as easy as it sounds, beacause the most human of all emotions stands in the way, greed........
i hope this has enlightend u....

You have maybe read one or two post that I have made and you already know how I am, well that's impressive. I don't stand for any of that things you say here. I can se how you might get a false first impression of me if that flag post was the first you saw form me, and a admit that wa a stupid post. but i can't se any reason not to drop it, now.
 
and america being intolerate? every time the europeans are in trouble they scream for the US to help them, but when they get their help thes genioses come and say "why are u interfering?

That is an over-generalization. Certainly not all european's think that way.
And afcourse whe have oppinions about every country.Diplomacy is a reality in this world.Certainly The American goverment has it's oppinions about all country's.And in most oppinions the european Gouverments and the Union in general agree's.And Certainly ,the europeans arn't perfect to.
 
Originally posted by .:KNAS:.
the EU flag represent a bunch of fat rich people that make desicions regarding the poor people, it represents greed, capitalism, and isolationism (atleast to me)

The american flag stands for the exact same things, except isolationism, i'll replace that with brainwashing and militarism(at least to me)
 
Originally posted by CornMaster
I was going to close this topic....because I envisioned it to be a scream/flame fest. But I decided not too. And look at what it has developed into. A SCREAM AND FLAME FEST!!! But regardless of this I'm going to leave it open for now.

And Håkan, you need to stop complaining and take action!!! (About your believes...not against me or CFC. :))

I don't scream. I try to discuss. I try to show my side of it.

Wath do you mean with "stop complaining and take action". I get several posts caling me stupid and I don't think i deserve that that's why I explaind how I feel to get people to reply so that we can have a discussion.

And I don't se wath belives I need to take action against. It's you that get a picture of my belives on your own and then thinks you picture of me is corect even tho you don't acctually s wath I mean with my post.
 
duckofflanders, most europeans i know think that way

mikoyan, maybe the american flag stands for greed and so on, but atleast the americans fought for the right to bear that flag, the EU is just a bunch of rich politicians making decicions
 
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