r16
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taking a detour from an interesting and so far unfamiliar discussion :
you know , it would be a steady money earner for the incredible German industry , now that AustroHungarians passed it over and would balance Russian hordes and French elan .
what if there were more loyal guards in Sarajevo ? There would have been another thing , Archiduke could have died in Vienna why not ? Before the Russian Bear got too fat , you know .
what do Germans know about alliance ? They are merely human , just like anybody else . They will stab you in the back for a single gold piece in your hand . Just recently two neo-Nazis were committed to suicide , their female element panicked and set fire to destroy the evidence and voila , the German police discovered these guys have been behind a decade long series of murders , have been planning raids on military installations , have a hitlist of 88 names to honour HH ( the eight letter so necessary to say Heil Hitler ) and so on . Meanwhile TV channels here taking about the dangers of "deep" states . Considering one of the victims was a Greek döner worker , killed by mistake and one German loony pumped 40 rounds into a Turkish supermarket immediately afterwards , we should have framed the Greeks .
we have two varieties of the letter in Turkish . ı don't refer to myself in capital letters , partly because am a failure in life , partly because have to fight off my self confidence leading to my doom . This year ı have been unlucky once or twice and my ramblings coincided with world events , as such ı am supposed to be a real deal . By all means no . Yet it doesn't stop some smarties to make dough with my name ; ı keep hearing there is a protection racket going on . Now that ı have run into people with capital letters ı can assure anybody that while r16 is harmless , say an R will make people Regret it - big time - if aRoused . ı am a perfect loser who has to remind his place continiously ; currently am a Starfleet admiral who lost seniority because ı pressed for an immediate pre-emptive anti-matter strikes on good old Uncle Sam while commanding Moon Base Alpha , only to be exiled to Saturn to handcount the rings . More fiendish a stellar punishment is yet to be invented . In short it is a CFC tradition to generally ignore me .
this is something ı rather will not agree . The World History Forum has just seen a debate on how the Entente enginereed the downfall of the Ottoman Empire , to steal its oil . My take on the event is that the war was inevitable because London and Paris reached an agreement to co-operate since Germany was driving forward fast yet its potential was still limited compared to what US or Russia might have done given time . Maps were to be redrawn and empire / empires to fall . Keeping the "West Europeans " ahead of the "demons" of De Tocquvelle . Relevance of oil is that the known and presumed Ottoman reserves would keep the German tanks full . In return Germans would keep the Ottoman Empire afloat . Because:
and that stable trading partner lies across the Atlantic . Something to remember when the Royal Navy begins blockading enemies of the Crown in the European landmass . The Cash and Carry Act , the one before the Lend Lease was so charming ; the US industry would have gladly taken German orders , had the Germans have any means of overcoming the RN . The solution in WW1 would be the merchant submarine and that was just a drop in a bucket . On the other hand the one intrusion into the Sea of Marmara that far was not that bright . A halfway competent Ottoman Army and Fleet would be sufficient to keep everybody at home and , mind you , in peace .
is a notion that does not make full justice to Wilhelm Der Britischer . ( My German was never good and ı practically forgot all of it ) Oil was coming of age and fast . And while Germans were blinding themselves to the fact - with their blackmail of naval parity where they intentionally remained behind in order not to be too much of a threat - , especially the British were in the La-La land . Accustomed to their safety behind the channel , they had fobias about the new ways of warmaking . Funnily enough they all got to Berlin in due time . All aircraft were banned over the city when the war began , one pilot strayed and an entire battalion of troops expanded all their rifle ammunition firing at it . When the Sikorsky bombers made their appearence over the front , German High Command simply announced there were no such giant aircraft . And of course that most Germanic of things , the tank . ı am long known to be making up stuff yet as already said my German is miserable , how do you combine Angriff with Kraftwagen ? That quaint Burstyn was for crossing trenches when all the European car makers were pushing armoured cars with tiny wheels is a mystery . Yes , the story of the tactical assault vehicle is yet to be written .
you know , it would be a steady money earner for the incredible German industry , now that AustroHungarians passed it over and would balance Russian hordes and French elan .
only to preempt any criticism . And yes , war was inevitable , now that London Paris Axis stopped Russians from too much dalliance with the Japanese , "pushed off" Americans in Morocco 1907 -am a Wikipedia reader and not ashamed of it - broke the opposition by giving Libya to Italians , all of them stuff the Germans could not . Germans could not because it was the global perception that Britain was the mostest . Then came the Balkan Wars , where the first shattered the Ottoman Empire and the second took away any advantages Germans and Austrians might have derived from an enlarged Bulgaria . In 1913 the First World War was an absolute certainity . There were doubts about the thing during the first war , about the evil Turk making a comeback a la 1897 and talks about averting a collision between the Great Powers , at the second it was obvious Ottomans were dead and our carcass better be shared . Berlin approved it all now that we would be their slaves if we wanted to live , yet Western Europeans saw the German case was "mortally" wounded and soon it would be clear . With the Russian Bear getting fatter everyday .
what if there were more loyal guards in Sarajevo ? There would have been another thing , Archiduke could have died in Vienna why not ? Before the Russian Bear got too fat , you know .
what do Germans know about alliance ? They are merely human , just like anybody else . They will stab you in the back for a single gold piece in your hand . Just recently two neo-Nazis were committed to suicide , their female element panicked and set fire to destroy the evidence and voila , the German police discovered these guys have been behind a decade long series of murders , have been planning raids on military installations , have a hitlist of 88 names to honour HH ( the eight letter so necessary to say Heil Hitler ) and so on . Meanwhile TV channels here taking about the dangers of "deep" states . Considering one of the victims was a Greek döner worker , killed by mistake and one German loony pumped 40 rounds into a Turkish supermarket immediately afterwards , we should have framed the Greeks .
control of oil was incentive enough for half of Libya to sally forth to topple Kaddafi and it appeared war enough . Saddam rightly accused Kuwait of stealing oil under the border thought ı will admit that it was only a peripheral reason . Argentinian junta knew it would overcome any opposition to a clash with Britain on promises of Falkland oil and ı really count my anti-Americanisms , even when the said junta was led into a blind alley . Doubles the score . And of course the Bushist Crusades , where Rice justified Afghanistan by denying a base to Islamic terrorism reminding the poppy fields which were still in the game last time ı checked and Iraq , the glorious self financing invasion . Maybe the more correct thing would be to say promise of wealth from resource is the best motivator for war ?
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