How Euphoric,Depressed are you?

How Euphoric or Depressed are you?

  • 10 (Euphoric)

    Votes: 3 4.2%
  • 9

    Votes: 6 8.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 13 18.1%
  • 7

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • 6

    Votes: 9 12.5%
  • 5

    Votes: 6 8.3%
  • 4

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • 3

    Votes: 9 12.5%
  • 2

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • 1 (Depressed)

    Votes: 5 6.9%

  • Total voters
    72
  • Poll closed .
Actually Lithium did help a bit, the only one out of 19 or 20. However, it slowed me down a bit, a bit being unacceptable to me. I'd rather be more scattered & unstable with higher energy.


To each their own. I'm certainly glad to hear your depression is better. Depression is so miserable I can't fault anyone for taking whatever measures they can to releave it.
Thanks. :)

It's my belief that what a person with depression should do is to try various treatments and see what works. Since we don't yet have any test to predict responsiveness to treatments based on a person's genetic makeup, all we can do is gamble, do what works, and throw out anything that doesn't.

For my part, I should also try eating healthier, exercising, and other lifestyle changes. But the Wellbutrin I'm now on has definitely helped pull me out of some really dark holes, for three different depressive episodes, most recently in the first half of 2011. Prozac, on the other hand, was worse than useless.

I suppose I am coming at things from my own perspective, personally I do not believe it is my genetic destiny to be depressed, that is to say I nearly all of my depression is related to circumstances. Others seem certain that their depression is largely hereditary. And perhaps we are both right. I personally think more people are depressed now than need be but perhaps some in inevitable regardless of circumstance. I find it hard to believe that major depression is built into an genome (it seems like such a maladaption) but I could be wrong. In certain circumstances I've realized, depression could be very adaptive. When you don't know whether to fight or flee & any wrong movement could be fatal a hibernation type emotional response could be helpful.

Words fail me, hibernation is a poor choice but it's hard to put words to the experience (my experience anyway) of major depression. It feels like literally parts of me are dying (emotional parts, social parts, etc.). If I could do a brain scan of myself during these periods it would probably look like that.
I think it will all boil down to interactions between genetics and environment. I suspect there are a number of genes that all correlate with higher risk of depression, and depression associated with some of these genes (and combinations thereof) respond strongly to environmental pressures, while others do not show as strong a response. It's encouraging that people are beginning to unravel this sort of thing though, as your article points out with one particular gene.

It is known that depression rates have increased over the past few decades - whether because of increased diagnosis or increased incidence isn't known. However, depression certainly existed in historical times - many famous artists showed telltale signs of it, and it is easy to find writings about "melancholy" and such from the 19th century. As for why it evolved, there are some evolutionary psychology explanations. But I don't put much stock in that whole field - it's full of plausible explanations made up on the spot without any way of testing their conclusions.
 
Why am I still the only one talking about how all these claims of euphoria don't make any sense?

EUPHORIA. It's a really powerful emotion. The majority of you are claiming to be perpetually euphoric. I want you to back this up. I want evidence. I cannot fathom that the common person is regularly euphoric.
 
Dude, most people are stuck below the 4 line. Reading this thread in general is fairly depressing. All this really is is a scale in which you judge how happy you are in life.
 
Most people who voted voted 6+. The mode vote was an 8. So my question still stands.
 
Why am I still the only one talking about how all these claims of euphoria don't make any sense?

EUPHORIA. It's a really powerful emotion. The majority of you are claiming to be perpetually euphoric. I want you to back this up. I want evidence. I cannot fathom that the common person is regularly euphoric.
At the time of posting, the poll results results show exactly 2 euphoric votes out of 68 votes cast. That's 3%. Hardly the majority and hardly perpetually.
 
Most people who voted voted 6+. The mode vote was an 8. So my question still stands.
Actually, the distribution looked sort of uniform to me, with 69 votes cast so far. So I ran a chi-square test assuming a uniform distribution (expected value = 6.9 for all of the ratings 1-10). I got chi-square = 9.986, p = .3517, using graphpad.com. Only 37 (53.6%) of respondents were at 6 or above.

So actually the results fit a uniform distribution really well - I think there's a wide variety of mental states here, not slanted towards either euphoric or depressed. I think there's a tendency to report a value like 8 if someone is feeling content, but even the mode there could easily be generated by statistical noise.

(for what it's worth, I voted 4 - still some significant problems with my mental state, but I'm satisfied with where I'm going with life, so I feel far better than the 1 or 2 I was at in March or April)
 
Still, does no one else take issue with the word euphoric? Am I ascribing too much to it? Do other people really lead such fantastically happy lives? Do other people lack experience in euphoria and think their good feelings are euphoric when not? I don't get it.
 
Still, does no one else take issue with the word euphoric? Am I ascribing too much to it? Do other people really lead such fantastically happy lives? Do other people lack experience in euphoria and think their good feelings are euphoric when not? I don't get it.

You are right of course. But this is very higly subjective topic anyway. Someone may feel very exited and he gives it 9/10 and if he would have expirienced Nirvana he would have to give it probably at least 10.000/10... The point is there wouldnt be much fun if somebody at times couldnt reach those 9 or 10/10.
 
Still, does no one else take issue with the word euphoric? Am I ascribing too much to it? Do other people really lead such fantastically happy lives? Do other people lack experience in euphoria and think their good feelings are euphoric when not? I don't get it.

I take your point and maybe euphoric is a bit strong , but I firmly believe that by opening ones eyes and really appreciating nature , people , art etc etc etc that you don't have to , at any given point in your life , be leading a "happy" one to appreciate the gift of being alive . A spectacular sunset is spectacular whether you just won the lottery or your best friend died .
 
Still, does no one else take issue with the word euphoric? Am I ascribing too much to it? Do other people really lead such fantastically happy lives? Do other people lack experience in euphoria and think their good feelings are euphoric when not? I don't get it.

People aren't reading the thread with long term trends in mind, or at least not consistently so. Quite a few of the responses said "oscillate between [3] to [8 or 9]" and the like, whilst referring to everyday events.

And I doubt that many people have that wide of a range on a consistent daily (or week to week) basis. It's underrating the 8, 9, and 10 range (imo). 8 is pretty damn high in my mind, and I can only see a few people really living their life that way every single day.

assuming a scale where I'd say a "6" is someone who is quite content and satisfied with their life.
 
I can't speak for anyone else who voted, but when I wrote "10 about 10% of the time. 9 about 50% of the time. 8 about 40% of the time. Been like that for the last 5 years." I was being honest and realistic.

However, the problem may be calling the highest happiness "euphoria". And that's compounded by thinking that highest happiness is an emotion, because it's not, or at least not as most people understand emotion.

If your happiness is dependent on whom you're with, or what other people thing about you, or what you imagine they think, or what's in your bank account, or what you're drinking, or seeing a sunset, or your team winning... then it's going to be short-lived and your life will also include a fair amount of suffering. It's not real happiness.

I don't judge people for their unhappiness, and I encourage them not to judge themselves. However, they have to want more happiness, and they have to be willing to let go of what they habitually do at the moment - which can be hard and understandably a big step for some people.

I think it's possible to improve. I think it's possible to turn things around. I don't think it's a big secret or a freak of DNA. I think it's possible for everyone, at least to some degree, to be more consistently more happy.
 
Still, does no one else take issue with the word euphoric? Am I ascribing too much to it? Do other people really lead such fantastically happy lives? Do other people lack experience in euphoria and think their good feelings are euphoric when not? I don't get it.
I have pretty high standards for 10. I wouldn't consider I've ever been beyond 8 in my entire life (leaving room to expand). I also regard 1 as lower than I've ever been & I've been pretty low. I'd consider 1 as being tortured with razor blades slicing my whole body while watching loved ones experience similar fates.

At my most depressed (to the point where I no longer wanted to live) I'd rate myself at maybe 2.5 At my most joyous I'd say 8. On average I'd say I'm between 5 and 6 these days. Of course these #'s are completely arbitrary.
 
yeah given the highs and lows I've had in my entire life, and seeing the vast extent of the dynamic range, it's not hard for me to fathom what could be worse and what could be better.

If 10 and 1 are the hard limits of human experience, and 5.0-5.5 being the norm, consider me from 3-8, with more 6s and 4s than 5s (if I'm fine, I'm good! :))
 
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