How is your EU3 Game going?

[Quintillus]

@Duke of Britain - Also a good point that I had only big ships. I suppose, realistically, that might not have been the best idea. But bigger is better doctrine won out. I did continue to use my garguantan navy to better effect against Malacca, but later on split it up into five fleets for better province-invading potential.

I have now completed my Manchurian game, alternately called my Eastasia game. All of southeast Asia plus Boreno got added to the empire, plus a few Arabian provinces from Oman (which gained me tons of extra monopoly money since they had lots of merchants in my CoTs), and by the end of the game was moving into India.

Spoiler :

Russia, formerly Novgorod, has been my ally for centuries, through thick and thin, and it's actually been a useful, two-way alliance. Oh, the days when we were evenly matched against Persia and Delhi. Luneburg is the surprise European success story, with Toulouse, Flanders, and Brazil doing well in overseas empires (Brazil in Africa = overseas enough for me). Bohemia was scary for awhile, but in a few non-total wars that Russia and I fought them in, they proved to be defeatable. They also found themselves in a PU under Mecklenberg in the late 1700s.

I thought about starting a big-scale war against a European power, but didn't. Bohemia and Austria both had large armies, but Russia had more manpower than either, and I had more manpower than both combined (and they weren't allies), so I think victory would have been achieved. Spain was the most likely target, though, as I had 65,000 troops in former Portuguese land, and supply ability for tens of thousands more.

In the end, I was the greatest, but also, for the first time in the last year of the game, dishonourable scum. OPM Deva Bengal thought they could declare war with impunity while I was helping Russia punish Delhi for an embargo, since I was close to my infamy limit. I wasn't about to let them get away with that.

Final stats, about 260 provinces, tons of money, Chinese tech group, land tech 45 (another reason I think I could have won in Europe), government tech 34, and other techs around 18. Coming up on 650K manpower, and a standing army of half a million. Despite our embarrassing naval defeat to Portugal, all said we felt pretty powerful.

Oh, and the Timurids were still around in 1820. I had nothing to do with that.

 

[Turquoiside]

Spoiler :

A nice simple game as Yemen. I declared war on Hedjaz, annexed them, and then vassalized the Jalayrids after Algeria randomly attacked me. I then backstabbed Oman (who I couldn't have beaten Hedjaz w/o) and annexed them along with Haasa. I vassalized Najd in the same war to complete my conquest of Arabia. Persia just declared war on my vassal though, so I'll have that to look forward to when I load up next. I think modding-wise I'll need to add in an Arab Unification tag after I add some bonus for being Muslim and holding Mecca to make playing in this region more 'worthwhile'.

 

[W|M]

No. Just, no.
50 Man o'Wars would not be easy to manage in the 18th century, and if you want to compare to real life, it would have even more small ships...
The Admiral of such fleet would have a very hard time coordinating it, and it would definitely be under danger of friendly fire thanks to its size, no fleet is safe of it, unless we are talking about very small numbers...

I meant that your ships don't all get sunk with a 50 ship fleet.

 

[Mosher]

They do when you have an enemy fleet chasing them down

 

[mechaerik]

2nd of July beta patch:

- Fixed saving game crash.
- Reverted the x3 from sliders over max.
- Being over forcelimits now costs 10x the amount for those troops.
- Units being eliminated now restores 50% of their MP back to the pool.
- Increased morale damage from land combat.
- Rebels now reinforce at half speed, and also reduced depending on techgroup of the owner of the province they stand in.

 

[Racsoviale]

So I finally succumbed and bought Divine Wind and actually enjoy it quite a lot. The cascading alliances I feared would ruin the game, are actually not that bad and it does make wars a bit more interesting. the hordes mechanics don't seem to be too annoying and I sort of like the way they work, but it seems people really hate them(why is that?)
I was surprised the first time I tried buying another artist and saw I couldnt. At first I was a bit annoyed by it, but I actually like that you can only have one of each type. It forces you to adapt a bit more and prevents you from going on a massive annexation spree only to have 3 lvl 6 diplomats burning it all down in a few years.
Magistrates and buildings also make for some more considerations - do I go for lots of temples/workshops now or do I need better cultural tradition for a better advisor.

I have so far only played into the early 1400s as the Ottomans, Castille and Vijayanagar all nations safe from what I can only imagine is the nuclear bomb of cascading alliances - a war in the HRE.

The Hordes seem more powerful, especially the Timurids who are huge in both my Vijayanagar and Ottoman game.

In my Ottoman game I have started colonizing a bit of the Golden Horde Territory(working my way towards Kaffa, to stop that annoying mission from appearing anymore) and are paying tribute to the Timurids to keep them of my back.

But now I'm starting to be strong enough that I might be able to reclaim my cores from the Timmies, but don't have any casus belli against them. Is that because of the tribute? if so, how do I stop paying that? I can't really find anything about that mechanic so some help would be appreciated.

Also I can't wait to try out Japan and China.

To summarize I've been converted and now regret not buying it earlier and apologies to all who recommended this and who I doubted about this expansion

 

[uat2d]

Magistrates and buildings also make for some more considerations - do I go for lots of temples/workshops now or do I need better cultural tradition for a better advisor.

If you build Fine Arts Academies, you'll never have to worry about cultural tradition.

Also, hordes and Japan are awful. You'll soon realize that.

 

[sophie]

Get your workshops or trade stations down asap depending on what kind of country you're running. After that it's really what you want to do with your lands. Forts in provinces likely to get attacked, manpower buffs if you're going to be building lots of armies, etc.

 

[Quintillus]

Fine Arts Academies don't come for awhile, though. I admit to finding Patron of the Arts a useful idea early-game, so I can spend my magistrates elsewhere than cultural tradition.

I'm not sure why most people hate hordes - one of my least favorite aspects of them is that too often Bohemia, Poland, or Lithuania gets a lot of Golden Horde land. But, I like the dynamics of them. I probably wouldn't like trying to play as Georgia against them, but I liked the challenge of the Timurids when I played the Ottoman Greeks. In fact, it might end up being too much of a challenge if I ever resume that game. I don't know of a good way to declare war when you're paying tribute, though (i.e. without the stabhit). I think I've read that bankruptcy ends the tribute and thus leads to war, but that's probably not a superior alternative to a stabhit unless your inflation is already spiraling.

I've never seen the AI unify Japan. I'm sure it's possible, but in general Japan seems fairly isolationist... but I haven't played as a daimyo (or as Ming) yet.

 

[W|M]

Fine Arts Academies don't come for awhile, though. I admit to finding Patron of the Arts a useful idea early-game, so I can spend my magistrates elsewhere than cultural tradition.

It also occasionally gives you an event which lets you go +2 Innovative.

 

[civ_king]

It also occasionally gives you an event which lets you go +2 Innovative.

That's MTTH of 360 months (30 years) which is incredibly valuable for countries to westernise (allows you to front load into centralization

 

[TheLastOne36]

Playing as Legnica looking to form Silesia, this is from the More Province Mod.

I designed the new Bohemia and Silesia for DanubianCossack myself, so I thought I would play it.

 

[Arakhor]

You're PolskaGOLA?

 

[TheLastOne36]

You're PolskaGOLA?

Yup, I always see you post in threads but forget to add you as a friend. I'll do that right now.

 

[uat2d]

The name England is in Ireland.

 

[TheLastOne36]

An update.

Spoiler large image :

 

[Duke of Britain]

Gotta love how nations form thanks to the encouraged blobbing in MPM, even if a bit early...maybe they should make it harder to get conquest missions on non-culture group provinces

 

[TheLastOne36]

DC was going to do that change actually. Not sure if he actually did it.

The problem IMO is the infamy, infamy cost from conquest CB is significantly less than other CB's.

Anyway, I am helping DC with Poland and the areas between Poland and Russia now so that is something too look forward to in MPM 6.9.

 

[Evie]

9 July, 1460 Austria inherited the nation of Hungary
9 July, 1460 The Holy roman Empire has elected Friedrich V of Austria as emperor

...Gack.

I don't like it when my game suddenly start pretending it's EU2

(I'm Burgundy)

 

[Arakhor]

Louis II didn't die until the 1520s, as I recall. You don't need to worry just yet.