How is your EU3 Game going?

[uat2d]

Ryukyu isn't that insanely difficult: you can be left alone for the most part, the AI sucks at naval invasions sending only a couple of troops every time and you're safe from the Europeans for a long time.

Spoiler :

Oyo, on the other hand, that's impossible, you're always annexed by Hausa instantly.

Trebizond must be a close contestant, if nothing distract the Timurids from the start, you're toast.

Heretic_Cata, it's what Quintillus said, you need those government buildings in the capital for spy protection. Other than that, for the most part, you just need money, revolt risk or stability costs won't matter that much on the long run, you're better off focusing on making money as that will allow you to do everything else (including keeping stability up and revolt risks down).

 

[Kyriakos]

0 infamy for all that? Doesn't look right - unless that is the point...

 

[Mosher]

He collapsed into a horde, hence the 0 infamy.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I'm somewhat disappointed by the missions i keep getting in the last 100 years or so. It's only been "conquer those 4 provinces in morocco" which i don't wanna do and "colonize some really crappy province that has huge aggressiveness/ferocity and close to some other hostile pagan civ that will be a burden and will never pay off". Until then the missions were nice and helped me loads of times, in the past 100 years i think i only had one intresting mission, and that was to build a university in Granada.

I thought that being SPAIN during the colonization era would yield some cool missions but it doesn't seem so.

 

[sophie]

I'm somewhat disappointed by the missions i keep getting in the last 100 years or so. It's only been "conquer those 4 provinces in morocco" which i don't wanna do and "colonize some really crappy province that has huge aggressiveness/ferocity and close to some other hostile pagan civ that will be a burden and will never pay off". Until then the missions were nice and helped me loads of times, in the past 100 years i think i only had one intresting mission, and that was to build a university in Granada.

I thought that being SPAIN during the colonization era would yield some cool missions but it doesn't seem so.

(One of the things D&T fixes)

 

[Antilogic]

The variety of missions (as Spain) are pretty nice in D&T. Currently, I have this objective to conquer all of Sumatra, which might be more appropriate for the Dutch but I'm not complaining because it's not "build X manufactory in Y" for the 11th time.

 

[Quintillus]

uatd's Ryukyu screenshot is from this thread at Paradox's forums. Quite a story, but not every Ryukyu game goes like that. Not sure where madviking's is from...

Trebizond gets vassaled by the Timurids pretty often, so it isn't always that bad for them. It's probably just as well to be a vassal of them until the Ottomans or Mamluks got the upper hand.

 

[madviking]

uatd's Ryukyu screenshot is from this thread at Paradox's forums. Quite a story, but not every Ryukyu game goes like that. Not sure where madviking's is from...

http://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/15vhzz/unexpected_master_of_asia/

 

[Quintillus]

January 1, 1457

Mahmud I had been lucky, and the Bohemians had done the dirty work for him - declaring war without a casus belli shortly before the Horde had planned to do that very thing against Bohemia. Though the odds were hopeless, perhaps the Bohemians thought that, as Emperor, they had an obligation to oppose the resurgent Horde. But all they'd accomplished was keeping the Horde stronger long-term. They, along with the other electors, were quickly overwhelmed in 1455 and early 1456, and the Holy Roman Empire was no more.

The Horde is on the move again, and nearly unstoppable. All lands lost in TSCs (save Treviso) are recovered, and more are being added. Finland is fortunate in the north, being asked only to concede defeat every 5 years, as the Horde does not wish to fund the troops required to fight Sweden just yet, preferring to save money and slow down inflation. But Burgundy had best prepare, for they are the next big target! And the Mamluks, already unable to defeat the Horde and Ottomans at the same time, are doomed once their truce with the currently-peaceful Timurids expires.

The only thing that could derail the Horde is if the young Khan suddenly kicked the bucket, Attila-style. I've still only gained about 6 core provinces since the game started, and it's another 6 years or so till another one cores. But even Burgundy with their 40,000 to 50,000 troops likely won't be much of a match for the Horde (190,000) if a TSC doesn't occur.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/15vhzz/unexpected_master_of_asia/

Ahhh, that's why I hadn't read it... I occasionally peruse stories on Paradox Plaza, but I only ever read things on Reddit when I'm linked to them. Kinda neat that that Ryukyu was built on mercenary power.

 

[Tee Kay]

Be careful of getting encircled in the Po Valley.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Here's how my Global Colonial Spanish Empire is standing in 1585:

Spoiler :

Yes i conquered Mecca too, because i felt like it.

But i have to take a break on conquests again. Annexing provinces of the Inca, Mali and Mecca made my infamy shoot back to 40 ... -_-

When i'll be able to, i'll put some colonies in NewZeeland, Australia and Hawaii !

I had another question tho. Colonies that produce gold confuse me. The money doesn't come from taxes, and production is 0 it seems. Tariffs don't seem to be related to the gold and are not shown how they are calculated so where does that money come from. And what buildings would affect it's production ?

 

[NedimNapoleon]

I demand you take out British Basque.

 

[uat2d]

But i have to take a break on conquests again. Annexing provinces of the Inca, Mali and Mecca made my infamy shoot back to 40 ... -_-

How? Holy Wars allows you to take provinces with only 1 infamy / each and Colonial Conquest with only 0.8. You should have much more land than you currently have with 40 infamy.

Also, don't let the infamy get that high, even if you don't go over the top, infamy kills your Papal influence which kills your Cardinal chances with could otherwise help you in bringing down your infamy faster.

I had another question tho. Colonies that produce gold confuse me. The money doesn't come from taxes, and production is 0 it seems. Tariffs don't seem to be related to the gold and are not shown how they are calculated so where does that money come from. And what buildings would affect it's production ?

Gold goes directly into your budget, check your finance advisor, it should be there in the monthly section > gold income.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I demand you take out British Basque.

Nope, allied with them now.

How? Holy Wars allows you to take provinces with only 1 infamy / each and Colonial Conquest with only 0.8. You should have much more land than you currently have with 40 infamy.

In the case of the Inca, they attacked the english (or was it the other way around) which sent me a call to arms, and i answered because i didn't want to loose the alliance. Having a large force in the area i invaded and annexed some provinces.
In the case of Mali, they declared a jihad on me IIRC, and invaded Madeira or Canaries, don't remember. I invaded and annexed them instead.
In the case of Mecca, i just invaded without a CB because i've been waiting for 50+ years for one but it never came and i just got pissed. Even tried sending them lots of insults and spy missions to make them declare war on me, but that was useless too. I don't understand why i couldn't just declare a holy war against them.

 

[uat2d]

In the case of the Inca, they attacked the english (or was it the other way around) which sent me a call to arms, and i answered because i didn't want to loose the alliance. Having a large force in the area i invaded and annexed some provinces.

You really shouldn't, you could have just seized their provinces for 1 infamy if your troops were there (the target province must be Shamanist or Animist iirc) or instead you could just took a lot of gold from them from a peace deal. Getting those provinces for all that infamy was a mistake.

Why do you need that alliance with the English anyway? Get the whole of Iberia for you!

In the case of Mecca, i just invaded without a CB because i've been waiting for 50+ years for one but it never came and i just got pissed. Even tried sending them lots of insults and spy missions to make them declare war on me, but that was useless too. I don't understand why i couldn't just declare a holy war against them.

You took 2 stab hits and attacked an infidel without a CB and then took several provinces for 4 infamy? Why would you ever do such a thing?

For the Holy War CB it needs to be before 1650, you must be either Catholic/Orthodox/Sunni/Shia, the target must be an heathen and iirc you must either be an Empire, Defender of the Faith, share a border with the target or have the Divine Supremacy NI.

 

[Quintillus]

Be careful of getting encircled in the Po Valley.

I think I'm okay for now (my army in Romagna is larger than the enemy armies nearby), but if Burgundy proves to have the better forces in the theater, I will have to watch out for that. I likely will be putting a lot of defence there if it's endangered, with so many universities there.

You really shouldn't, you could have just seized their provinces for 1 infamy if your troops were there (the target province must be Shamanist or Animist iirc) or instead you could just took a lot of gold from them from a peace deal. Getting those provinces for all that infamy was a mistake.

To clarify, if you declare war on the country that you are being called to arms against during the 1-month call to arms period, it counts as fulfilling the call to arms and you don't break the alliance. You should still check the call to arms in case there are some other countries you are also being called to arms against, but that will get you a separate war against the country you have a better casus belli against.

Is that Muscowy all the way down to Jerusalem? I've never seen them go that far south before. I guess that's what they were doing instead of forming Russia.

 

[sophie]

Be careful of getting encircled in the Po Valley.

All the encirclement-evasion in the world isn't going to avail him if the Pope decides to murder every horse in Europe.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

You really shouldn't, you could have just seized their provinces for 1 infamy if your troops were there (the target province must be Shamanist or Animist iirc) or instead you could just took a lot of gold from them from a peace deal. Getting those provinces for all that infamy was a mistake.

To clarify, if you declare war on the country that you are being called to arms against during the 1-month call to arms period, it counts as fulfilling the call to arms and you don't break the alliance. You should still check the call to arms in case there are some other countries you are also being called to arms against, but that will get you a separate war against the country you have a better casus belli against.

Oh didn't know i could do this. But i just found out (here) that annexing provinces CAN cost less than 4 infamy each!

Why do you need that alliance with the English anyway? Get the whole of Iberia for you!

I need it so they won't kick my ass ! Plus they can prolly kill all my overseas provinces as they keep waging war all over the place with Mutapa, Inca, some north american tribes, Malacca, some persian states. (not all those wars at the same time tho)
Oh and btw, just lost the alliance. I got atacked by the Inca and they didn't want to join (even tho i never asked them too!) so the alliance is done for, can't even bring it back for some unknown reason too.

You took 2 stab hits and attacked an infidel without a CB and then took several provinces for 4 infamy? Why would you ever do such a thing?

For the Holy War CB it needs to be before 1650, you must be either Catholic/Orthodox/Sunni/Shia, the target must be an heathen and iirc you must either be an Empire, Defender of the Faith, share a border with the target or have the Divine Supremacy NI.

That would explain why i didn't have a Holy War CB against them, i was none of those things.

Is that Muscowy all the way down to Jerusalem? I've never seen them go that far south before. I guess that's what they were doing instead of forming Russia.

Yep it's Muscowy. I was going to declare war in my random wars on whoever had Jerusalem so i can have both it and Mecca, but i was hoping for an easy kill if it were the Mamluks or smthing. So, unless they declare war on me, they can have Jerusalem.

 

[Quintillus]

All the encirclement-evasion in the world isn't going to avail him if the Pope decides to murder every horse in Europe.

That would pose a problem! I'd have to send in 400,000 Eastern Archers if that happened. And lots of Asian horses to repopulate the poor horse population.

Yep it's Muscowy. I was going to declare war in my random wars on whoever had Jerusalem so i can have both it and Mecca, but i was hoping for an easy kill if it were the Mamluks or smthing. So, unless they declare war on me, they can have Jerusalem.

That would probably be an ugly war, and might well not be worth it.

 

[Quintillus]

Epic Battle Time now presents...

The Battle of Barrois!

With the annexation of Sundgau, the Horde now bordered Burgundy and her vassals, and war, of course, began. At first, in May 1457, the Battle of Barrois appeared to be a small-scale battle, with 13,000 Burgundians facing 8,000 Hordesmen, but it soon escalated. First the Horde sent in reinforcements to tilt the tide in their favor, then tens of thousands of Burgundians showed up, and by midsummer even the Burgundian King was in the fray, having to see the battle for himself.

And in the end...

95% of Burgundy & Co.'s army fought in the battle, and over half of the Horde's army. Throughout most of the battle the Burgundians held a commanding advantage in numbers, but the Horde had superior generals, and never flinched. Through a sophisticated retreat-and-rotate system the Horde resupplied their lines with rested troops, and by October is was clear that the Burgundian position was untenable.

The effect on Burgundy will be absolutely devastating - with half their army defeated in a single battle, the populace is horrified, and seeks only peace. 25 War Exhaustion will send all of Burgundy Holland into a revolt risk of at least 13, from zero presently, and will approximately halve Burgundian Dutch tax revenues. Although Burgundy likely has the manpower to replenish their armies, if not annihilated, they cannot withstand this much longer. And west of Burgundy, in France, the people are surely in panic... they'd hoped a strong Burgundy would stop the horde. Now they know that task will fall to themselves...

Edit: Even though 80% of the troops were Burgundian, because the Dutch general stayed the longest, they get all the war exhaustion . Though unfortunate for me and Holland, this is doubtless good for their alliance as a whole.