How Machiavellian are you?

[Bigfoot]

I also think that there's a huge difference between agreeing with Machiavelli about human nature, and agreeing with him about whether one should exploit it and be dishonest. Machiavelli himself is unlikely to believe all that he wrote in that book, since it was a work written to appease some ruler or other (I can't remember the precise situation).

Well said. I scored a 62 (high mach), which kind of surprised me. Although I do tend to be skeptical about the motives of many people, I don't like deception and manipulation. I actually go out of my way to not deceive others.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

It is you grasshopper, who has much to learn. If you post no score, and yet admit to taking the test, people will be suspicious, and assume you have something to hide. After all, your only discernable reason for not posting a score would be that the score makes you look bad, any other reason will sound thin. But if you posted a score that makes you look good. Your friends will be happy and assume you posted the truth, and people who don't know you will either assume you are a nice guy, or ignore you. Thus you will have reinforced the perception that you are a nice guy, and those who are apathetic will not be aroused to suspicion, and have gained no negative opinion of you. You will have gained no enemies and your friends remain securely yours. If your enemies do not beleive it, who cares? They are biased, and you can easily brush off their opinions as products of hate, not reason.

I never said anything about having taken the test! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! See how my lack of information causes you to begin making completely arbitrary assumptions which can only harm your strategy. The less you know, the less you know from where the blow is coming. Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!
















Bwahahaha!

 

[Kal'thzar]

I never said anything about having taken the test! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! See how my lack of information causes you to begin making completely arbitrary assumptions which can only harm your strategy. The less you know, the less you know from where the blow is coming. Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!

Technically the lurkers are better at this than you

 

[Evil Tyrant]

I never said anything about having taken the test! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! See how my lack of information causes you to begin making completely arbitrary assumptions which can only harm your strategy. The less you know, the less you know from where the blow is coming. Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha! Bwahahaha!

On the contrary, you did post that you took it. Let us examine what you said.

As I said in the last Machiavellian Test thread, Im too Machiavellian to reveal my score.

Saying that you will not reveal your score means that you have one to reveal, which means you must have taken the test. Now you have given two contradictory statements about something you cannot have been ignorant of, which means you are lying in one of them. You have just destroyed any trust and credibility you ever had. For if you cannot give truthful answers to something as trivial as this, you cannot be trusted with anything greater. You have made both your friends and those neutral suspicious of you, and have vindicated your enemies. One more thing grasshopper, true Machiavellians do not indulge in maniacal laughter, bad stuff tends to happen shortly after you do that.

 

[~Corsair#01~]

74. I believe that the morality of one's actions is all that matters and doing "the right thing" does not require honesty.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

On the contrary, you did post that you took it. Let us examine what you said.

Saying that you will not reveal your score means that you have one to reveal, which means you must have taken the test. Now you have given two contradictory statements about something you cannot have been ignorant of, which means you are lying in one of them. You have just destroyed any trust and credibility you ever had. For if you cannot give truthful answers to something as trivial as this, you cannot be trusted with anything greater. You have made both your friends and those neutral suspicious of you, and have vindicated your enemies. One more thing grasshopper, true Machiavellians do not indulge in maniacal laughter, bad stuff tends to happen shortly after you do that.

I surrender Sensei, youve out Machiavellied me. Id just like to point out that this foolish one believes that saying "I will not reveal my score." is not the same thing as saying "I have a score."

 

[Evil Tyrant]

I surrender Sensei, youve out Machiavellied me. Id just like to point out that this foolish one believes that saying "I will not reveal my score." is not the same thing as saying "I have a score."

Surrender accepted. Now a better means of not giving out any score and still posting would be to say something to the effect that online tests are crap and that anyone who takes them is wasting their time. This would establish that you don't like online tests, and wouldn't waste your time taking one. If you don't take online tests, then you would have no score to post. Maybe I should become a lawyer or go into politics.

 

[Cheetah]

True low Machs, however, can be kind of dependent, submissive and socially inept. So be sure to invite a high Mach or two to your next dinner party.

I'm waiting for my invitation.

 

[MamboJoel]

The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 68
You are a high Mach, you endorse Machiavelli's opinions.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 70
You are a high Mach, you endorse Machiavelli's opinions.
Most people fall somewhere in the middle, but there's a significant minority at either extreme.

 

[Taliesin]

Your Machiavelli score is: 43
You are a low Mach, you reject Machiavelli's opinions.

Pretty much as expected.

 

[Dionysius]

<purged.>

 

[Israelite9191]

I got 72, rather surprising as I consider myself a pessimistic moralist. Then again, I was thinking about NESing when I took the test, so that may have influenced me.

 

[CartesianFart]

I also think that there's a huge difference between agreeing with Machiavelli about human nature, and agreeing with him about whether one should exploit it and be dishonest. Machiavelli himself is unlikely to believe all that he wrote in that book, since it was a work written to appease some ruler or other (I can't remember the precise situation).

True,he was appealing to "Lorenzo the Magnificent",since the Medici's have taken power.If i remember,he was removed from office because of his opinion against the Medici family,but he was aqquited to a nonpolitical life.

I always recommend "Discourse",it is something of an scientific analysis of the Italian city-states of the time and some references of States in ancient times.A true conossiour of State-Craft.

 

[Gladi]

Bright day
The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 90
You are a high Mach, you endorse Machiavelli's opinions.
Most people fall somewhere in the middle, but there's a significant minority at either extreme.

I had problem because there was no talk about pretending to be honest.

 

[Oruc]

The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 68
You are a high Mach, you endorse Machiavelli's opinions

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

I am in the lead with 88

I would consider myself in the lead with 42

 

[tomsnowman123]

Me:

The Machiavelli personality test has a range of 0-100
Your Machiavelli score is: 32
You are a low Mach, you reject Machiavelli's opinions.

Most people fall somewhere in the middle, but there's a significant minority at either extreme.

 

[FredLC]

57 for me.

 

[Bluemofia]

From last time, I got an 85.