How should The U.S determine it's presidents.

[warpus]

And then would we rename the country "America"? That just doesn't sound as cool.

How about.. Unified State of America

 

[Arwon]

How about "Steven"?

 

[Chairman Meow]

By popular vote. I dont want to see another election steel like Bush pulled in 2000.

Even if it results in a Democrat being elected without winning the popular vote?

(Dang metallic elections )

 

[MobBoss]

Even if it results in a Democrat being elected without winning the popular vote?

(Dang metallic elections )

Yeah, people seem to forget Bush won the popular vote in 2004.

 

[Chairman Meow]

Yeah, people seem to forget Bush won the popular vote in 2004.

Yes, but he was specifically commenting on the 2000 election, not the 2004 election.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

How about "Steven"?

You can't name a country Steven!

 

[GenMarshall]

Yeah, people seem to forget Bush won the popular vote in 2004.

I even forgot that Bush legaly won both the Electoral and Popular vote in 2004. Then again I disliked Bush at that time and was angry over his reelection.

Shows how much of a radical liberal I am .

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

You can't name a country Steven!

Why not? Chad, Jordan, and Israel are all first names.

 

[North King]

Why not? Chad, Jordan, and Israel are all first names.

Show me a kid named Tajikistan, and you might have a point.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Show me a kid named Tajikistan, and you might have a point.

You're on. Just give me 9 months.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Why not? Chad, Jordan, and Israel are all first names.

I was going for the Titan A.E. reference.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I was going for the Titan A.E. reference.

Well, I don't see why they can't name a planet Bob, either.

 

[warpus]

I say, if there's a country called Turkey, there might as well be one called Steven.

 

[puglover]

Then what is the point of the Popular vote if the Electoral College votes?

The Electoral College doesn't just pull votes out of a hat. The majority vote for the state determines the vote of the electoral college for that state. That the Electoral College itself actually "votes" is one of the most common misconceptions about the American political system.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

I think there was only one single delegate out of thousands of electoral delegates who didn't vote the way the state did, though, and that was just so that no one besides Washington would be unanimously elected.

 

[Irish Caesar]

I think there was only one single delegate out of thousands of electoral delegates who didn't vote the way the state did, though, and that was just so that no one besides Washington would be unanimously elected.

There have been more than that, but it has never changed the outcome of an election.

 

[Chairman Meow]

I think there was only one single delegate out of thousands of electoral delegates who didn't vote the way the state did, though, and that was just so that no one besides Washington would be unanimously elected.

There have been several cases where an elector didn't vote the way the state did. One of them was the one you mentioned - an elector changed his vote in the election of 1820 to prevent Monroe from being elected unanimously. Also, in 2000, an elector from Washington, DC refused to vote as a protest against the "taxation without representation" as a result of DC's non-state status.

 

[North King]

And the Edwards elector in 2004, though that may well have been a mistake.

 

[dh_epic]

Your concept of States Rights VCRW really died after the civil war.

Bingo. The electoral vote was designed to give a little more say to the smaller states, so they aren't dominated by the more populous big states.

Now, population concentration isn't a state issue. It's more of a rural/urban issue.

The electoral vote is obsolete -- addressing an old problem that has been pretty much solved.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

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