How would YOU design Israel in Civ 7 if allowed?(Made this because others are also)

Maybe the judaism just start in the royal familly and take a long to spread around all ethiopian society, but as soon of Solomon, is hard to belief the Manelik I isn't a jew it self, he is son of a Jew.
But it's said the Ethiopia is also the first cristian kingdom in the world, because they are just jews before christ.
You take far too much in terms of folklore, mythology, Nationalistic plays on old, unverified claims, other very dubious legends and claims, and even outright balderdash at face value. It would do you very well to be much more discerning in these areas.
 
Maybe the judaism just start in the royal familly and take a long to spread around all ethiopian society, but as soon of Solomon, is hard to belief the Manelik I isn't a jew it self, he is son of a Jew.
But it's said the Ethiopia is also the first cristian kingdom in the world, because they are just jews before christ.
Well, Armenia beat Ethiopia by a few years as the first Christian commonwealth, but both were early adopters of Christianity. Osroene might have beat both of them, but it was a rather short-lived state. While the Jewish nature of pre-Christian Ethiopia or of the Khazars is very much open to debate, if you want a genuine Jewish state outside of Israel you might look into Adiabene, an Aramaic kingdom in what is now northwestern Iraq.
 
Well, Armenia beat Ethiopia by a few years as the first Christian commonwealth, but both were early adopters of Christianity. Osroene might have beat both of them, but it was a rather short-lived state. While the Jewish nature of pre-Christian Ethiopia or of the Khazars is very much open to debate, if you want a genuine Jewish state outside of Israel you might look into Adiabene, an Aramaic kingdom in what is now northwestern Iraq.
The Khazar language is in the Guiness Book of World records, apparently, for the least amount of, "written literature," of any language with actual written, translated script available. A bronze bar with a missive sent to Yuri I the Wise, Grand Prince of Kiev, saying, "I have read," or, "I understand," is all we have. :P
 
The Khazar language is in the Guiness Book of World records, apparently, for the least amount of, "written literature," of any language with actual written, translated script available. A bronze bar with a missive sent to Yuri I the Wise, Grand Prince of Kiev, saying, "I have read," or, "I understand," is all we have. :p
When you send a diplomatic missive and all you get back is a read notification. :p
 
Haha, I've seen this thread come up constantly over the years and it's as likely Israel is in Civ7 as it was likely in Civ2, Civ3, Civ4, Civ5 and Civ6.

Jerusalem may appear as a city state, and that's about it. If Civ7 implements neutral nations (city state mechanics but they can have more than one city) then maybe then.

Even those eventualities are unlikely. If they ever appear in a civ game it will be in a historically-theme scenario, probably something to do with ancient Rome.
 
If they ever appear in a civ game it will be in a historically-theme scenario, probably something to do with ancient Rome.
Why Rome? The Roman conquest of Judea was pretty uneventful. They basically just shifted from being a client kingdom of the Seleucids to a client kingdom of Rome. I'd see them much more likely to appear in an "Ancient World" scenario where Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Hittites, Persia (and sure, go ahead and throw in Greece if you want, even if it's anachronistic) jockeying for control of the trade route crossroads in Canaan (as they historically did).
 
Haha, I've seen this thread come up constantly over the years and it's as likely Israel is in Civ7 as it was likely in Civ2, Civ3, Civ4, Civ5 and Civ6.

Jerusalem may appear as a city state, and that's about it. If Civ7 implements neutral nations (city state mechanics but they can have more than one city) then maybe then.

Even those eventualities are unlikely. If they ever appear in a civ game it will be in a historically-theme scenario, probably something to do with ancient Rome.
There was a Kingdom of Israel as a default civ in Empire Earth 1.
 
I personally prefer a post-United Kingdom leader, as I've said, but if we're choosing between David and Solomon, I'm not sure what makes Solomon more interested than Solomon. Neither is directly attested, but David at least has (later) coins reading בית דויד ("House of David"). Plus David has the better parts of Samuel devoted to him, while the material on Solomon is much briefer.
Civ 4 has Solomon Temple as the shrine for Judaism and civ 5 has the mines of Solomon as a natural wonder which also could be some plusses as to why we could have Solomon as a leader for Israel. All Solomon did was build because he had asked wisdom from god which god gave to him and made him very wise but he eventually spent his wisdom with many women and their gods which god disliked. David also had some issues with god later where he had to choose his punishment so they were both not as good. However, David did do better the Saul but at least Solomon had helped establish a lineage of kings for Israel. I dont want to turn this into a father-son feud so David would be better simply because he is the father. :)
 
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In my last class of Ancient history in the university my teatcher talk about 3 ancient kings of Israel; Saul, Davi and Solomon.
We already speak a lot of about Davi and Solomon being possible leaders to Israel. But, what do you think about Saul? He is the most ancient of the 3 and just because that can be a better choice. What do you think about this issue?
 
In my last class of Ancient history in the university my teatcher talk about 3 ancient kings of Israel; Saul, Davi and Solomon.
We already speak a lot of about Davi and Solomon being possible leaders to Israel. But, what do you think about Saul? He is the most ancient of the 3 and just because that can be a better choice. What do you think about this issue?
Given the only source on Saul we have--the book of Samuel--is extremely hostile to him to the point that it could be described as propaganda, there's not much useful to work with. (Of course, David and Solomon have the opposite problem: what we have to work with is pro-Davidic propaganda.)
 
Given the only source on Saul we have--the book of Samuel--is extremely hostile to him to the point that it could be described as propaganda, there's not much useful to work with. (Of course, David and Solomon have the opposite problem: what we have to work with is pro-Davidic propaganda.)
Yes, it's not proper Jewish observance to get foreign witches to necromantically conjure the ghosts of dead prophets because you're stumped for advice... :nono:
 
Yes, it's not proper Jewish observance to get foreign witches to necromantically conjure the ghosts of dead prophets because you're stumped for advice... :nono:
There's his ability: Witch of Endor: Can activate expended great people a second time. :shifty:
 
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There's his ability: Witch of Endor: Can activate expended great people a second time. :shifty:

Now you're just going for the cliché about Jewish people being supersmart and winning all the Nobels and prizes. XD
 
Let me see if I can remember mine. It wasn't too different from what's already been shared by OP and others.

David of Israel/the Israelites
Leader Ability: Giant-Killer
I believe this granted some sort of combat bonus against civilizations that hold more territory than Israel, allowing them to punch above their weight class.
Civ Ability: (?)
I honestly can't remember what I had for this, other than it involved Faith. I'll update if I find my old documents.
UU: Maccabee
Classical Era unique unit that replaces the Swordsman. Has a ranged attack of 1 (slings). I think it also had some kind of Faith-based combat bonus. Maybe against units of other religions?
UI: Tabernacle
Unique Encampment building. Grants Faith and has a Relic slot. Maybe also had some kind of diplomatic bonus.
Agenda: Chosen People
Dislikes civilizations who wage holy wars or condemn enemy religious units. Likes those who avoid doing so, especially against Israel.
 
Agenda: Chosen People
Dislikes civilizations who wage holy wars or condemn enemy religious units. Likes those who avoid doing so, especially against Israel.
It seems odd the Israelites getting worked up, or caring too much, about religious conflicts between other peoples entirely. Such an attitude also does not go with such an exclusionist attitude, theologically speaking., either.
 
I am now working on a mod for Civ6 using ideas presented here (especially by Duke William of Normandy and Zaarin), some of my own and inspiration from other mods. Still haven't figured out Maccabee's ability and Salome's leader ability (leaning toward something economic). What do you guys think?

  • Civilization Ability
    • The Lord is my Shepherd
      • Pastures produce +2 Faith and +2 Food
      • +5 Combat Strength when fighting units of other religions within your borders
    • Unique District
      • Solomon's Temple
        • Can only be built in the capital city on hills adjacent to a mountain
        • Automatically receive a Great Prophet upon completing
        • Automatically convert all cities founded by civilization
        • Requires 180 Production, 1 Gold to maintain
        • Bonuses:
          • +6 Faith
          • +3 Gold
          • +1 Relic Slot
          • +1 Great Work of Writing Slot
          • +2 Faith for each Religious City-State with 3 Envoy
          • + 0.5 Culture for every citizen in the capital
          • +1 Gold and +1 Culture to Wine and Sheep in Empire
          • +1 Appeal to adjacent tiles
          • Provides 15 tourism if city has at least 10 citizens
          • 500% religious pressure on Israelite cities
    • Unique Improvement
      • Sanhedrin
        • Must be built adjacent to a Holy Site
        • Limited to 1 per city
        • +2 Culture
        • +2 Loyalty in city
        • +1 Great Writer points
    • Unique Unit:
      • Maccabee
        • Replaces Swordsman
  • Leaders
    • David
      • The Psalms
        • Great Works of Writing provide +3 Faith and +3 Culture
        • Holy Site Buildings provide Great Writer points equal to Great Prophet point output
        • Worship Buildings gain a Great Work of Writing Slot
    • Hezekiah
      • Chosen People
        • Religious Units can not convert other civilization's citizens
        • Religious Pressure of all cities except the capital is increased 200%
        • Religious Pressure through trade routes is increased from 0.5 to 3
        • +3 Combat Strength to fortified units defending from units of a larger civilization (calculated by total number of citizens + number of cities)
    • Salome Alexandra
 
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Leader, David Ben Gurion: mulds lntskh (homeland forever) ability: You cannot lose the game due to conquest unless there are no free city states left. If you lose your last city, you may choose a city state and it is considered conquered (with hostility) and you take control of it.
You start with a pantheon already founded. However the majority of your citizens must be your religion or you lose the game. Your religions influence outside your territory is halved, but you get plus 1 gold for every follower outside your territory.

Just make it really weird, screw it why not.
 
In my last class of Ancient history in the university my teatcher talk about 3 ancient kings of Israel; Saul, Davi and Solomon.
We already speak a lot of about Davi and Solomon being possible leaders to Israel. But, what do you think about Saul? He is the most ancient of the 3 and just because that can be a better choice. What do you think about this issue?
Well, Saul did commit FREAKING GENOCIDE on the Amalekites. He also paled in success to David and Solomon. If you want to look at Saul in a Judeo-Christian-Muslim lens, he was unfaithful to God.
(I learned about this a couple of weeks ago at my Presbyterian church's study.)
 
Leader, David Ben Gurion: mulds lntskh (homeland forever) ability: You cannot lose the game due to conquest unless there are no free city states left. If you lose your last city, you may choose a city state and it is considered conquered (with hostility) and you take control of it.
I don't think this ability will fly...

Though it might give a template for a similar one to also allow Mao to get into the game. :eek:
 
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