How would YOU stop Terrorism?

[ComradeDavo]

The main thing is to realise that are multiple terrorist factions out there - all with different aims and idealogies so you can't just view as a general 'war' on terrorism. You can't beat terrorism untill you understand it, and I feel that is one of the fatal flaws in the US's current foreign policy.

Another fatal flaw is how they keep creating reasons for people to fight against them. The Iraq war, Afghanistan, the current stance towards Iran and so on, the way these have been/are being conducted adds to anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world, it inflames the situation and thus in the long term the 'terrorist' problem is not solved.

So there's no one solution to stopping terrorism, you need to be able to adapt to situations and also stem the flow of fresh recruits. Make the terrorists the bad guys, not the west!

 

[Ecofarm]

I have no idea what this ELF thing you keep going on about is.

Earth Liberation Front. Never hurt anyone. "Terrorists".

When people say terrorists, they may mean only Al-Qaeda, but Al-Qaeda is not the only terrorist group out there, so they're incorrect in that assumption. Hamas has never been truly democratic. Now you're trying to put words into my mouth in addition to attempting to belittle my argument, because you don't actually have a counter-argument.

I never said only AL Q. Who's putting words? I only mentioned Hamas because you blatently ignored my first qualifier, so why not ignore the second as well.

As for your comment in parantheses, what the hell do you think the IRA was? Or Baader-Meinhoff, or the Red Brigades? Politico-religious, and at the time, certainly the vast majority. Usually not suicide bombers, but they made up for it by using other bombs, and keeping their people alive. They were far more organised than Al-Qaeda.

As for globally significant; You really mean America-significant. Australia and other nations have only become targets due to their relatioship to the US, and therefore Israel. I don't have the numbers to hand, but I'm almost certain that the different manifestations of the IRA probably killed more people than Al-Qaeda.

1) Stop living in the past.
2) Right, not suicide bombers.
3) Globally significant, which (granted), pretty much means US significant. It has something to do with superpower and other geo-political thingies that make stuff globally significant.
4) IRA killed more than Al Q?

 

[Ecofarm]

Another fatal flaw is how they keep creating reasons for people to fight against them. The Iraq war, Afghanistan, the current stance towards Iran and so on, the way these have been/are being conducted adds to anti-American sentiment in the Muslim world, it inflames the situation and thus in the long term the 'terrorist' problem is not solved.

I disagree. Democracies invariably hate the US less than totalitarian states (know any that chant 'death to america' in their legislatures each friday?). The 'long term' problem is tyranny. Terrorism is merely a symptom.

 

[ComradeDavo]

I disagree. Democracies invariably hate the US less than totalitarian states (know any that chant 'death to america' in their legislatures each friday?). The 'long term' problem is tyranny. Terrorism is merely a symptom.

Firstly, consider how much of that tyranny is built upon anti-western sentiment.

Secondly, many terrorist recruits come from within countries like the US and the UK, so your disagreement with my post in non applicable in their cases.

 

[bloh]

As a start I would stop USA and then UK.

Afterwards I would stop France.

 

[warpus]

You mean, the Al Qaeda type terrorism that's directed against the West?

I'm afraid there is no way to stop that.. maybe in the next couple decades, but in the forseeable future this stuff is going to go on.. nothing you can do about it.

 

[gangleri2001]

I'd become a terrorist too. If everybody is a terrorist then there's no reason to keep calling them terrorists, there will only be people.

 

[bloh]

You mean, the Al Qaeda type terrorism that's directed against the West?

I'm afraid there is no way to stop that.. maybe in the next couple decades, but in the forseeable future this stuff is going to go on.. nothing you can do about it.

No.

I mean I would stop USA. UK and then France. I would stop those countries. Remove them.

Here is one of the quick reasons:
Iran today, who made Iran islamic? USA, UK and France.
Who was Ayatollah Khomieni? The guy who basically was the leader of the revolution.
Who supported him? France (He lived there) UK and USA.
Who planed the revolution? UK and USA mainly. (MI6 and CIA)
Who paid the economical costs? The Seven Sister oil companies.

Who started Al-Qaida? USA / UK
Who put Saddam in power? USA / UK

Too much to name. Stop those countries and we will live all in peace forever.

 

[Rossiya]

Muslim genocide?

 

[Mr. Dictator]

poverty causes terrorism.

 

[Slaughter]

Use the same tactics until we bring then to their knees.
Or I would just go around invading contries, bombing people and impaling anyone who disagrees with us. There, problem solved.

 

[Rossiya]

As a start I would stop USA and then UK.

Afterwards I would stop France.

If you stopped the USA, the whole posse would collapse. The UK does and doesn't do what the US does and doesn't do. lol

 

[Abaddon]

poverty causes terrorism.

An why is the west seen as responsible for this poverty?

 

[GenMarshall]

Hmm, place a bounty on the radical Islamic terrorist's pretty (eventhough they are butt ugly) on there heads .

 

[BasketCase]

That was tried on Osama.

So far it hasn't worked.

Candyfloss?

Strangle people with it. Also there are a couple ways you can make fuses for explosives.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Random challenge: I dare anybody to come up with something (that actually exists in the real world) which cannot be used in a harmful way. Bring it on.

Uh Alpha Centauri ??? The cloest star system to our own ??

 

[GenMarshall]

That was tried on Osama.

So far it hasn't worked.

Well he keeps hopping from cave to cave

 

[amadeus]

Fight poverty. It won't eliminate terrorism, but it will reduce it by a far greater amount than any other tactic.

And just how poor was Osama bin Laden?

 

[Berzerker]

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How would YOU stop Terrorism?
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It seems one of our forum favorite past-times denouncing the war and Bush. The so-called "War on Terrorism" has become something of a joke.

Mis-guided

Now, its all very easy to join the mob, hurling insults, its nice to be part of a crowd, but if for just one moment you stepped out of that soft warm cocoon, could you deal with the threat of terrorism?

Gee, which crowd were you in before the invasion of Iraq? I remember opponents being accused of all sorts of evils...

Here is a thread, spoon fed with Devil's Advocate questions for you to take in and resolve. Can CFC's mightly OT hive mind solve something where Bush's Trillians ( An virtually every other national leader in the world) has failed?

You assume the Bush administration and "we" share the same motives... I think terrorism is seen as the cost of doing business to secure oil whereas you're asking us to end it?

#Is it possible to extinguish this vile act of destruction againt fellow humans?

We can kill terrorists, but in a quasi-war for resources there's gonna be plenty of future provocations... so no... Most terrorism, virtually all of it (systemic anyway), is a result of "3rd world" peoples being encroached upon by larger more powerful neighbors.

#Is terrorism really that bad, or is it merely a result of todays society?

The weapons may change but not the mindset... Killing people to get what you want is as old as mankind. And its very bad, I do not want to see terrorists armed with nukes. Especially with politicians in my country trading our lives for oil.

#Is it a downtrodden group of people with no other way of fighting back?

Depends on the enemy... If its an occupying army thats where the fighting will be, but if the goal of the terrorists is to change or create public opinion, making the public suffer more directly may become a valued tactic.

#What causes the creation of Terrorists?

Pissed off people, usually following some distorted version of an eye for an eye.

#When was the first created?

The first fight? Its a tactic...

#Is it possible to reverse this trend?

Sure, but you aint gonna like it. I know, because I dont like it either...

#If you had real power to do something about it, how would you go about it?

Negotiate... If you cant give in on some point critical to the opposing movement, give in to what you can to reduce their base of support thereby creating and internalizing a conflict within the movement. If you can satisfy most people, including most of the base, terrorism will become less appealing even to the fanatics. But that means not pursuing the terrorists and I want them pursued. Oh well, once we get OBL and we're satisfied we got most of the people behind 9/11, then maybe we cant start talking about ending the conflict. The problem is we cant get them because they're protected by our "ally". That kinda puts the emphasis on talking sooner...

 

[BasketCase]

Uh Alpha Centauri ??? The cloest star system to our own ??

Alpha Centauri explodes with a gamma ray burst and exterminates all life on Earth.

The problem is we cant get them because they're protected by our "ally". That kinda puts the emphasis on talking sooner...

If I recall correctly, Osama wants the Saudi royalty removed from power. It's a safe bet nothing short of a military invasion is going to get them to step down. Are you willing to invade Saudi Arabia?

Me neither. Talking isn't going to go very far. Now, when you said the part about "I want them pursued", I'm with ya all the way on that.