I cried today...

White Elk

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I finally watched the movie "Lord of War" this evening. And at the end of the movie I cried. This does not happen often. But tonight I openly wept for the victims of my countries "foreign policy". I shed tears for the many hundreds of thousands of good, and innocent people who have died needlessly because of my nation. I have long suffered with the knowledge that my nation uses criminals, terrorists and mass murderers to further its commercial and political interests. I have known of this for a long time. But it was the ending of this movie that finally triggered me to openly weep over these atrocious crimes against humanity. The US gov has been hiring mercenaries that slaughter innocents for a long time. Back in the early 1900s the US sponsered South American terrorist/mercenary/murderers to protect the economic interests of private American companies (such as the Dole and Chiquita Banana companies). This crap could have started earlier for all I know. But I do know that my countries government employed mercenaries that slaughtered entire villages of Good people so that a few US companies could make their money. Thats just South America and Bananas. What about the Middle East and Oil? This started to become a factor after the Second World War. Today we are paying for 50 years of with the peoples of other nations. We the people of America are paying the consequences of the actions that have resulted in the profit of a few. If the tens of hundreds of thousands of dead people don't move you.. then perhaps your pocketbook will soon motivate you. Maybee then you(the masses) will finally take notice so that We The People may once again gain control of our government and stop this vicious cycle of death for profit from repeating....


Many Amercians seem to have at least some small knowledge of what our US Gov did in South America during the 1980s. And if the deaths of innocent foreigners does not move you, then you should know that American corporations and the US gov is directly responsible for the untimely deaths of tens, and perhaps hundrends of thousands of your fellow Amercians. This has got to stop. People are suffering and dying so that a few can make obscene profit. How the hell can you people continue to buy your products from Dole Banana or Maxel House Coffee? These corps literally destroy the lives, and end the lives of good hardworking people. And these corps do this for the sake of money! If you purchase their products; then you are an accomplice to these heinous crimes. Know who you support when you spend your dollars. Don't give your money to the rapers and pillagers such as Maxwell House or Dole Banana. Let your wallet cast your vote. Stop buying from the Walmarts and McDonalds, and the Maxwell Houses and the Hersheys of the world. Buy from, and support the people! Let the corporate pigs die on the vine for lack of sustenance!

Heres a start.... http://fairtraderesource.org/links.html

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Indeed! .....
 
Dont feel bad, when I was a kid, I cried at the end of King Kong.
 
Did you at some point do a little dance for the hundreds of thousands of people that have lived (or lived better) because of this nation?
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
You know, I wrote a song about it Igloo, its goes like this: OH SAY CAN YOU SEE...
I think you may be infringing copyright laws by claiming you actually wrote that.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
You know, I wrote a song about it Igloo, its goes like this: OH SAY CAN YOU SEE...

:lol:

But seriously, one cannot reasonably decry all the evils that America (or any major power, for that matter) has done or has allowed to happen without considering the good as well. Now obviously, there are nations where there are many evils and precious few goods (I won't Godwin up this thread with any examples), but on the whole the US has at least as good a record as any other historical major power that I can think of - though if anyone can point to better I'd appreciate the insight.
 
Maxwell House is a 'rapist and pillager':lol:

Does that mean rape and pillaging are 'good to the last drop'?

Please dont even get me started:rolleyes:
 
correction, i guess i should have said "sung," but hey its all good.
Yea Igloo i agree, there are just some poeple out there who are too busy focusing on one mistake thatour country has made and blown it up into a whole "America is the worst thing to ever happen to the world" load of crap; when people want to criticize this country, they better take a long hard look at the big picture, how the world would be if we had never come along. It would be a very dfferent world.
 
It's a good thing that more and more Americans are beginning to realize the truth. Many have been misled. But I am optimistic.
 
Congrats to you White Elk. :clap:

For the realisation, for the honest posting, for the time taken and for the first steps to make a change. To be clear though, your deepest gripe from watching that film is more Capitalism and its relationship with the arms industry, rather than America's foreign policy. Am I right? It's only because America has been the most successful capitalist power of late that has allowed it to caste its influence far and wide with this heavy production, sale of and support for terrorist groups with armaments. There's nothing exclusively American about that part. It's just Capitalism in action, producing unwanted rubbish (guns and bullets in this case) and the imperative to use / sell them. If the WWs hadn't happened, you'd be crying about Britain doing it instead. It's the system that they operate by that dictates their conduct here (and that drive to sell and make more arms).

The foreign policy points you make are all damn good and true also though. Much better than the pointlessness of the posts that immediately followed your OP.
 
Yes, welcome to the America Hating Cult! Pay no attention to what mega corporations from other countries do, only American ones are evil! Walk towards the light!
 
IglooDude said:
:lol:

But seriously, one cannot reasonably decry all the evils that America (or any major power, for that matter) has done or has allowed to happen without considering the good as well. Now obviously, there are nations where there are many evils and precious few goods (I won't Godwin up this thread with any examples), but on the whole the US has at least as good a record as any other historical major power that I can think of - though if anyone can point to better I'd appreciate the insight.

Come on. i think you have every right to be angry at what your nation did wrong, even if you think the good deeds outweight the wrong... White Elk is not saying "the US sucks". he's saying "here's what sucks about the US".
His post is not about whether the US is right or wrong, but about what's wrong.

On a lighter note, White Elk, when I first read your post I read "Lord of the Rings", and was like what,Lord of the ring made you cry for the victims of US foreign policy? That's where I decided to start all over :lol:
 
Bozo Erectus said:
You kidding? He hates America so much, he actually started crying.

Are you out to troll or did you just miss the entire point of what he wrote?
 
Its not trolling just because I have a different opinion about it than you do. As an American, I think I have a right to disagree with his outrageous comments about my country.
 
Bozo Erectus said:
Its not trolling just because I have a different opinion about it than you do. As an American, I think I have a right to disagree with his outrageous comments about my country.

There is a difference between "having the right to disagree" and "twist his every word so that he appears as nothing but an US-Hater"
 
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