I got into Harvard!!!

[PrinceOfLeigh]

I read somewhere that Havard admits people that doesn't have perfect scores occasionally, just so the straight 'A's inside don't kill themselves from the competition. Any truth in that? If so, it may be how some people who doesn't have perfect score can enter.

So they admit people to get intellectually beat on just so the "Straight A's" don't feel the twinge of competition? That's harsh

 

[Urederra]

Congrats if it is true.

A question for anyone who knows the answer.

Do you apply to study a subject at Harvard and then you got accepted or rejected or you apply to enter and then you choose what do you want to study?

 

[nihilistic]

It's not very nice to assume someone is lying when one has no evidence of that.

While I'm inclined to think maybe he misunderstood whoever it was he spoke to at Harvard, I'm certainly not about to accuse the poor fellow of lying without proof. That's a heck of an insult to someone's integrity without anything to back it up.

And hey, maybe through some freak 1 in a gazillion occurance, Harvard did indeed admit a sophomore with just above average grades into the school two years in advance.

No, to anybody who has applied to colleges recently, it is quite evident that he is either lying or involved in a backroom deal. Just above average grades? Even if you are a genius you still need to fill an application form and wait for the interview (which by the way is not done by the dean). And colleges will NEVER tell any applicant that he is guaranteed a spot, especially to someone that has two more years to go. Almost all college acceptances to seniors in fact carry the stipulation that "you better not scrw up your final semester of high school". To believe the story to assume that this dean at Harvard simply gave him a blank check for Harvard admission is to assume that he bought it in a back room deal. Simple as that. The original poster is either a liar or a crook, or a troll.

 

[bhsup]

Okay, nihilistic, give me absolute proof that he is lying then. Please provide me with his whereabouts during the time in question and videotapes of any interviews he had at Harvard.

Alternatively, please provide proof that you're a mindreader and get a fellow mindreading notory public to verify your statement that the OP might not have just innocently misunderstood the interview he attended, but is maliciously lying about it.

Unless you can do either of the two things mentioned above, you've no room to be calling him a liar, period.

 

[Desmond Hawkins]

You don't have absolute proof there is a God, but that doesn't stop you from calling me a heathen.

 

[PrinceOfLeigh]

Okay, nihilistic, give me absolute proof that he is lying then.

You don't have absolute proof there is a God, but that doesn't stop you from calling me a heathen.

Yeah, all this talk of "prove he is lying" makes me think you might be a Commie.


Runs off and hides as thread descends into another religous/communism thread.

 

[bhsup]

Actually, I do, but else nobody accepts "I feel him within me" as absolute proof .

But yeah, I do go off the deep end when people assault another person's integrity without flat-out, irrefutable proof. There may be circumstances where it is warranted, like when lives are on the line, but in a case like this it is just so very wrong to flat out say "he's lying."

EDIT: Me, a commie?! Goodness, are you trying to force me into therapy? Please be careful with such statements!

 

[shortguy]

For what its worth, i got a letter from Harvard my junior year, which we still have hanging up in my living room. It basically said "dont forget to apply to Harvard...we've been watching you, we like what we see, and we'll let you apply for free". I was jacked...so i applied to harvard. 1400. mostly As...some Bs...plus, im a minoirty. Yeah. didnt get in. Maybe you just got one of my letters

or you're loaded.

Haha, I know how it is. They actually sent me an application summer before senior year. I don't think I actually solicited it, either, at least not directly. I thought, "Hey, I might actually get in."

Waitlisted.

But I'm here at UVA, which is where I've wanted to go since I was a kid, so it's all good.

 

[Fifty]

I didn't do jack crap in HS and ended up with a 2.3 gpa and going to a colleeg that I hate!!!!

 

[Irish Caesar]

Harvard...known for being the first university in America [to have a student-run porno magazine].

 

[ainwood]

Moderator Action: OK - this is getting user-specific with far too many allegations of lying.

Closed.

Red Stranger - if you want to post a rebuttal, then PM me with it.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[ainwood]

Rebuttal from Red Stranger:

Ainwood is allowing me to have a rebuttal, so I'll use it.

First, I can't believe so many of you accuse me of lying or buying my way into college. In case you don't know, colleges take into account the quality of your high school when they look at your grades. I may not have straight A's, but I probably had to work a lot harder for my grades than people who go to lower quality high schools. If I went there, I could be get straight A's without working as hard as I do now.

I'm probably the youngest guy on CFC to get accepted into a college, so it seems strange to you. But it's definitely not because of my parents. Not once in the interview did they ask "So Alex, how much did your daddy contribute?" Because that's not important. If Harvard just accept people based on money and not intelligence, they wouldn't be good for long. Now, I'm not saying that I'm smarter than you, I just have to work harder, and that shows in the personal statement and the interview.

 

[ainwood]

Moderator Action: Re-opened - for now.

Debate the issues, but do it in a civil manner.

 

[MjM]

Wewt, time to deal with this little rebuttle.

Ok, firstly:

First, I can't believe so many of you accuse me of lying or buying my way into college. In case you don't know, colleges take into account the quality of your high school when they look at your grades.

This is true, but for Harvard you still need the straight A's. If going to a private highschool (which if you don't then it is no harder than a normal one) sure the cirruculum and homework loads are harder, but you still need the grades. A B from your school is still a B.

I may not have straight A's, but I probably had to work a lot harder for my grades than people who go to lower quality high schools.

"Mostly A's and B's." This could even mean a C. Now I know your not that foolish to tell us you got into Harvard with a C. Anyways, Harvard excepts people from all different schools. If they accepted only from private highschools, that is destroying the American Dream, that only the Rich could go to a school like Harvard.

If I went there, I could be get straight A's without working as hard as I do now.

Unless you've been to a public highschool, you can't say much.

I'm probably the youngest guy on CFC to get accepted into a college, so it seems strange to you.

OK, talking with the dean (seems unlikely, the deans dont talk take interveiws) and him telling you good job, doesn't equal "You got into Harvard" It's not that easy. You havent got accepted into Harvard till that letter is in your hands.

But it's definitely not because of my parents. Not once in the interview did they ask "So Alex, how much did your daddy contribute?"

I doubt they'd incorporate it there. If your dad did pay them off, it would be secret from you most likely.

If Harvard just accept people based on money and not intelligence, they wouldn't be good for long.

When people get in because of unconventional ways, it isn't usually public. Also, they dont let you in based on money or Intelligence. They let you in based on your grades. Which have to be pretty damn good.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm smarter than you, I just have to work harder, and that shows in the personal statement and the interview.

I'm not convinced your private highschool cirruculum is that extreme. Unless it is a prep school, it can't be much harder than a normal highschool. Also, unless your a brilliant writer, your personal statement isn't going to get you in.
And being interveiwed by the Dean does bring up wheter this is even a lie or not.

 

[Rambuchan]

^ That's some real constructive friendly input from the Noobie

I'd still like to point out that you have not actually got into Harvard yet. No acceptance letter, no entry. Is that letter in hand? If not....

 

[anarres]

Hey I don't believe anyone would actually get in after just a chat with the dean, but I'm more willing to believe it's a "keep this up and we'll be seeing you here" kind of message he got rather than a flat out-and-out lie.

The point is that it's pretty mean to take the piss.

FWIW I went to Cambridge Uni and I *was* interviewed by the Dean, for one of my 4 interviews (over a full day, including an exam).

Again, I'm pretty sure the Dean won't be able to admit someone from just 1 interview, but I think it's more likely to be a genuine mistake than a deliberate lie, and I think most of you are mean bastards.

Edit: horney is reported.

 

[azzaman333]

No offence Red Stranger, but some of your comments in your rebuttal make you look stuck up, and some other comments make you look like that nerdy kid who kisses the teachers @$$es.

I believe that you probably did work very hard to get to where you are. I don't really know what the American system is, but in Australia, it all comes down to the end of year exams, at the end of Year 12. I started Year 10 this year, and the work level only goes up. How old are you by the way? I have no idea about the american education names for year levels.

Edit:

horney is reported

twice

 

[Rambuchan]

Edit: horney is reported.

Make that number 3. Such posting is not welcome, useful or funny.

but I'm more willing to believe it's a "keep this up and we'll be seeing you here" kind of message

I think this is a very accurate assessment.

 

[embitteredpoet]

I find the cocnept of going to a posh school and it being harder to get good grades an entirely alien one. I mean are these as and Bs relative to only your school peers?
Most confusing.

 

[Mirc]

Oh, come on, why would he lie?
I believe he is telling the truth.