I got into Harvard!!!

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Hey, wait a second here...

The topic title says "I got into Harvard..."

Well, of course he did...to get into Harvard, all you have to do is drive there, and open the door. :)
 
Ainwood said
ainwood said:
Debate the issues, but do it in a civil manner.
We should do this and stop being sarcastic and misconstrue words. We are at Civilization Fanatics' Center.

Edit: Crosspost with Rambuchan.
 
embitteredpoet said:
I find the cocnept of going to a posh school and it being harder to get good grades an entirely alien one. I mean are these as and Bs relative to only your school peers?
Most confusing.
embitteredpoet....

If the grades are not standardised, then yes.

Uni grades (for example) can mean wildly different things, based on where you went. ;)
 
Maybe he's going to one of those pedegree schools like Exeter Academy... much easier to get into Harvard from a place like that.
 
...and a mention of ettiquete school in another thread. I'd say it's pretty likely.
 
embitteredpoet said:
I find the cocnept of going to a posh school and it being harder to get good grades an entirely alien one. I mean are these as and Bs relative to only your school peers?
Most confusing.

Well, sort of. Frankly, even in the most difficult high schools in the US, straight As are not that hard to get.

There are numerous reasons to assume that this is false.

1) "As and Bs" - I don't want to dwell on this point too much; you can get into Ivy League schools with a couple of Bs. However, "mostly As and Bs" (which implies that there was at least one C) is absolutely unacceptable to an Ivy League school. In the US, that isn't even above average. To some extent, school is taken into account, but even at Phillips Academy or Stuyvesant High School a B is only a mediocre grade.

2) A Sophmore. If you made this assertion as a Senior, I might be skeptical and assume that you got in due to legacy (as 40% of Harvard students do) or because of a large donation or as a political favor to your parents from a politician if your parents are particularly important. However, for a sophmore to get into Harvard (and they have, in the past), that sophmore needs not only perfect grades and a nice "personal statement" (by which I suppose you mean the multiple application essays) but also some sort of distinguishing characteristic - they've made significant advances in some scientific or mathematical field, they've written an exceptional book, etc. I doubt more than two or three non-graduating students are accepted into Harvard each year, and almost every year all of those would be Juniors.

3) Lack of knowledge of the college application process.
a) The dean interviewed you. This doesn't happen at all in the high-level colleges - they get too many applicants to do it, and would be particularly unable to do so right now while the entire admissions department is working on next year's applications.
b) You wrote a personal statement. Not multiple application essays. Even students who have bought their way in (and I know one at Harvard) always have to write the application essay and go through the whole process even though they are guaranteed admission. I haven't even heard of a college that uses personal statements - maybe some small liberal arts colleges do, but not the Ivy League.

I stand by calling him a liar, and I will continue to do so unless he provides proof other than his own statements. CFC is not a place to make broad, obviously false statements and get feel-good congratulations for them.
 
Man, this board is harsh. Regardless of whether you believe him or not, what's the big deal?
 
Red I think it is in everybody's interest now that you ellaborate and tell everyone what exactly happened. Why did the Dean come and interview you, how does the application system work, what are your grades and so long and so forth. I dont know you very well, but from what I've read here (including your posts) makes me doubt either your understanding of the situation or the situation itself. I think you need a long post to clear yourself up here :)
 
kingjoshi said:
Man, this board is harsh. Regardless of whether you believe him or not, what's the big deal?

Blah, he makes me angry, and I'm sick. Mono makes me angry, too.
 
If you read his posts, he never said he got into harvard. the acceptance letter is not in his hand. The guy just told him to keep up the good work. Whats he going to say, "you have no chance?". Its in Harvard's interest to get him to apply, even if just to reject him. Everytime they reject somebody, they can say "we're more selective than Yale"
 
anarres said:
embitteredpoet....

If the grades are not standardised, then yes.

Uni grades (for example) can mean wildly different things, based on where you went. ;)

I see, thanks. In the UK GCSEs/A Levels are standardised, so getting top grades is naturally far easier at the better schools. University is of course the other way round, something I'm hoping to play up given my poor degree classification, but impressive university...
I shall cease to be off-topic now.
 
MattBrown said:
If you read his posts, he never said he got into harvard. the acceptance letter is not in his hand. The guy just told him to keep up the good work. Whats he going to say, "you have no chance?". Its in Harvard's interest to get him to apply, even if just to reject him. Everytime they reject somebody, they can say "we're more selective than Yale"

Someone still sounds bitter. Don't worry, I got rejected from Harvard too :D

You should've went to Denison instead of American. I guess you wanted to get away from home?

On Topic: Schools have peculiar criteria. There are people with Straight A's, 1600 SAT scores and who participate in many extra-curricular activities who get rejected. They can't accept them all. And people with lower grades and scores that get accepted for whatever criteria the evaluating staff chooses. It's a lottery just like applying to any highly selective school.
 
For some reason, I dont think you can get into harvard with with As an Bs and still having 2 years of highschool left. Not unless, the dean and your dad are golfing buddies.
 
Now I remember... I got a phone interview from Harvard, It was a post-doc position. At the end they didn't pick me because my profile wasn't what they were looking for. Anyway, I went to visit the city and the University afterwards and, although the place is wonderful, I am glad they didn't pick me, housing is too expensive, the salary was lame and I am sure I would have to work hard. (just trying to convince myself :( )

My question is: Did the professors who teach at Harvard have their degrees from Harvard itself? My impression is that they didn't. They have pretty famous people over there, but they came from other universities (AFAIK), so at the end if you are outsanding you can suceeed without having to go to the Ivy league. If you are not, then going to harvard gives you the 'connections'.
 
kingjoshi said:
Someone still sounds bitter. Don't worry, I got rejected from Harvard too :D

You should've went to Denison instead of American. I guess you wanted to get away from home?

On Topic: Schools have peculiar criteria. There are people with Straight A's, 1600 SAT scores and who participate in many extra-curricular activities who get rejected. They can't accept them all. And people with lower grades and scores that get accepted for whatever criteria the evaluating staff chooses. It's a lottery just like applying to any highly selective school.

I am very bitter actually, but not about Harvard. I didnt want to go to Harvard.

I'm bitter because this shows a bigger problem. That if you've got the dough, you dont need the grades.

I'm in the top 15-20% of my class at American. I'm the section leader for the percussion in the school Jazz Band. I got a 1400 SAT. However, because i'm poor, i am very likely going to have to transfer. I cant afford to stay.

Neither of my neighbors got above an 1150. One had a dad that helps run the US Open Tennis Tourney. One is a partner at a huge DC law firm, and donated some money. Nobody else here works....i have two jobs.

So I am bitter. I'm bitter, because so many other kids who I am much more qualified than get to stay, while i might have to transfer to a stupid state school. That, is not fair.

And letting a kid into harvard as a stinkin' 10th grader, who isnt even old enough to take the SAT or a single AP test, is bullfeathers. Its that kind of attitude with admissions people and aid advisors thats going to kill me.

The next guy who lectures me about AA gets stabbed
 
Because people stand for justice!!! :salute:
 
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