ICNES II: A New Order

From The Japanese Empire
To The St.Petersburg Axis

We see no reason to admit Italy or Saxony into the Axis. They have no relations Japan however so we do not care either way. However we are against their joining, as it would be very unneccessacry.
 
To the Japanese Empire
From the Greater Austrian Reich

The reasons for their joining are unknown to you due to it being a European matter. There joining would not affect you in any way an only strengthen the Axis. By them not joining you weaken the Axis and thus yourself.
 
To the UNion olf the Rhine
CCd: To Axis Members
From the Greater Austrian Reich

We could not care less. We have comprehensive proof that you planned to attack not only the Kingdom of Saxony but also the Ottoman Empire along with your so called allies. Why should we trust you now that you see that the sands of world opinion have turned against you and that the Axis remains firm.

While we will listen to your proposals in good faith, we remain committed to the Axis.

To Axis Members
From the Greater Austrian Reich

The above is the reason why I wish for the Kingdom of Saxony to join the Axis, for our mutual protection. If we allow Saxony to fall to aggression then a current Axis member will be next. Look beyond the scope of the immediate and into the distance instead. That way things will not surprise you so much.
 
From The Japanese Empire

The Japanese Empire is not weak. It does not need Italy or Saxony to strengthen it.
 
Can someone explain to me why Japan is part of the Axis, AFTER the Shogunate was otherthrown? Why would a faction overthrow a government, ony to conduct the same foreign policy?!
 
because russia isn't my enemy, and i don't want him to be'

and because britain hasn't formed any alliance or anything and has done nothing but talk and talk.

Wubba, get off your ass and make an alliance to challenge the Axis. Everyone is waiting for you
 
Lurker's Comment: You're the mod, Ic, you could always have his advisors decide he's mad/his aristocrats rebel/etc for doing something so against the grain ;)
 
The Singapore Corollary to the Treaty of Bangcock​

In addition to the other measures in place from the Treaty of Bangcock, the Singapore Corollary is to be followed and ratified by the Union of the Rhine and is to be considered an addition to the treaty.

1: The Union of the Rhine shall fund a project tranforming Bangcock into and industrial center

2: The Union of the Rhine shall send military advisors to train the Siamese army and navy

3: The Union of the Rhine agrees to not interfear or comment on Siamese foreign policy, lest they make the country suzerein to their wishes

Signed:
King Phra Chula Chomklao Chaoyuhua the Great of Siam, Ruler of All Indochina.
พระบาทสมเด็จพระจุลจอมเกล้าเจ้าอยู่หัว

Awaiting Signature,

Chancellor Johan Rudolf Thorbecke of the Union of the Rhine
 
Kentharu said:
because russia isn't my enemy, and i don't want him to be'

and because britain hasn't formed any alliance or anything and has done nothing but talk and talk.

Wubba, get off your ass and make an alliance to challenge the Axis. Everyone is waiting for you

ummm... Ken one does not just do these things openly,
 
Yea, plus the fact that everyone and thier mom is joining the axis kinda makes things...well, hard for wubba.

Hurry up and update those stats Icmancin :p I wanna join as someone.
 
Sheep said:
To the UNion olf the Rhine
CCd: To Axis Members
From the Greater Austrian Reich

We could not care less. We have comprehensive proof that you planned to attack not only the Kingdom of Saxony but also the Ottoman Empire along with your so called allies. Why should we trust you now that you see that the sands of world opinion have turned against you and that the Axis remains firm.

While we will listen to your proposals in good faith, we remain committed to the Axis.

OCC:
Number One: Do you want me to reveal the Austrian plans to attack Russia, Ottomans and the French Empire. Sheep if you are going to say I had plans to attack Saxony (over 100 years ago) which you said you would support said invasion and even participate then I will reveal your other plans. Remember?

If you are going to bring me down for something you were planning with me then I am going to bring you down with me.

Number Two: You have absolutly no proof I was going to invade the Ottomans. I told the Ottomans if they threatened my interests then I would have no resort but to attack them especially with their moves on Siam. Me and Luckymoose after tough negiotations have made up and I have recognized his claims in Africa if he keeps his business out of South East Asia but I had no plans for an aggressive move against the Ottomans unless they made one towards me. Which every nation has doesn't it?

From Union of the Rhine
To French Empire


We are glad you are on board with such a meeting of Europe's leaders and ask that it be held in Paris, a center of cultural achievements in Europe.

From Union of the Rhine
To Austria


You have no proof that we had plans to attack the Ottoman Empire and our plans for the Saxony were given up a century ago along with you. If you are going to include 100 year old plans may I bring up a few of your plans. I remember plots in invade France, Russia, and even the Ottoman Empire. We want to be your friends but you have made us enemies over a small African nation which in no way affects Europe.

It was diplomatic sparring with the Ottomans and there were no plans for war. Even the Ottomans have apologized yet you remain firm in bringing Europe towards chaos. Show us that you support peace by attending the planned conference.

From Union of the Rhine
To Remaining Axis Members


We ask that you attend the conference. Its purpose is not to break up the Axis but to create a balance of power in Europe to keep nations outside the alliance politically isolated and eventually destroyed.

From Union of the Rhine
To Siam


We will once again sign the treaty.

From Union of the Rhine
To International Community


Offically our nation is not part of any alliance and we are making this clear. We supported the British as they have supported us in the past but we did not mean to bring the world to the brink of war. Please put peace first and use war as the last resort. We do not want thousands of young men to die because of a small nation in Africa.

It is not worth it and we hope the world agrees.
 
To: Union of Rhine and France
From: Empire of Great Britain and Ireland

We support this conference and would be very flattered to attend the meeting in PAris, a most glorious city.
 
oh yeah, i have some diplo that needs answering please,
 
The Vice-King to King Phra Chula Chomklao Chaoyuhua the Great of Siam, Ruler of All Indochina, Boworn Vichaicharn Chaofa Krommakhun Izaret Pinklao the Knowledgable, Vice-King and Prince of all Indochina, shall attend this meeting.

OOC: Will it be on aim?
 
I think it would be impossible to get everyone on AIM. I was thinking the meeting would be for European members but I guess we can widen it to anyone willing to attend.
 
Icmancin said:
Can someone explain to me why Japan is part of the Axis, AFTER the Shogunate was otherthrown? Why would a faction overthrow a government, ony to conduct the same foreign policy?!

Lurker's Comment: Because kentharu is the neser in charge of Japan and has not changed from his original opinions in the last IT which made the Shogunate the Shogunate. And even though the Shogunate is now overthrown, Kentharu is still the player and has hardly adopted the Meiji Emperor's mode of thinking and continues to remain in his "Shogunate" state.

This is what happens when players don't roleplay. :( As a prime example of someone who does roleplay, I must point out Israelite in his excellent portrayal of the Russian Czars/Czarinas. :)
 
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