Erik Mesoy
Core Tester / Intern
Perfection's Creationism Thread appears deceased, and now I'd like to specifically make a thread debating the Intelligent Design hypothesis.
I started this thread because we has a discussion under way that was hijacking another thread.
The following quotes can be seen in context on this thread:
So, seeing as the discussion was going nowhere fast, and besides, that thread was intended to debate the relative lack of ID in Europe, here's the thread to clear up what ID is, what evidence it has, and what evidence is against it.
Here is a definition of evolution, and here's a much longer article on the same subject.
I'd be pleased if the ID advocates could provide links to explanatory articles of equal length, or write explanations resembling the "What is Evolution?" paragraph in the second link.
Thread opened.
I started this thread because we has a discussion under way that was hijacking another thread.
The following quotes can be seen in context on this thread:
Smidlee said:If Europe as well many in America can get rid of their anti-religious attitude then maybe they will begin to see that ID is science. In Fact ID has always been a part of science , when it's was applied to biology is when the war began. This is becuase everyone knows what this means ; there is a creator greater than man.
carlosMM said:Please give a short definition of ID so I can prove you wrong.
Smidlee said:As long as European opinion of ID is it's just over religion then because of their anti-religion/ anti-creator bias they will not listen to ID even though they have good valid scientific claims. Europeans will have to get over this hurdle first before giving a honest look at what ID offers.
carlosMM said:well, then why are you still avaoinding giving a definition of ID?
Smidlee said:ID is intelligent design. Normally intelligent is a given when it comes to "design" yet there are those like Dawkins who believe "design" in biology is a illusion while ID evolutionists see design is very real and finds no reason to reject it. It seems the only reason to reject "design" in biology is because of religious (anti-religious) reasons. ID referres to mathamatics and complex structures on the nanometer level
carlosMM said:great, you answer the question: 'What is intelligent design' with 'it is intelligent design'
avoiding it, hu?
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Normally intelligent is a given when it comes to "design" yet there are those like Dawkins who believe "design" in biology is a illusion while ID evolutionists see design is very real and finds no reason to reject it.
yadda yadda - can we get a definition?
Smidlee said:So you want to know what ID means to me personally.
So, seeing as the discussion was going nowhere fast, and besides, that thread was intended to debate the relative lack of ID in Europe, here's the thread to clear up what ID is, what evidence it has, and what evidence is against it.
Here is a definition of evolution, and here's a much longer article on the same subject.
I'd be pleased if the ID advocates could provide links to explanatory articles of equal length, or write explanations resembling the "What is Evolution?" paragraph in the second link.
Thread opened.