In the Shadow of Rome

what kind of IC per turn would britain have if it was still united?
 
@luckymoose. 14 IC.

@j eps, jolly good.
 
EQandcivfanatic said:
@Terris, I will need confirmation from Swiss before I can change that.
Yeah, sorry, i ****ed up there..... he gets the planes and tanks, i get belize and 1 IC from him
 
To: USER
From: Netherlands
Your use of poison gas against civilians is outrageous! Stop at once or we will intervene in this conflict.

To: USCA
From: Netherlands
You WILL release our citizens at once or we WILL come in and get them. Your choice.

eq: I thought I wrote something in my orders about this?
 
To all nations
From the USER

We see now that posion gas is nothing but an insidious force. While we will retain stockpiles and reserve the right to use it against an army or nation that has used it against the Soviet people we halt all operations of it in India. We furthemore request all nations sign a pledge to the same affect having seen the devestation in India.

To AHY
From USER

The Communists in France were never rebels. The French government disintegrated in a USCA lead plot of assaination. Need I remind you that the leader of the French Communist party at the time was also killed in this plot. While there is no true successor government can be declared in France after the disentrgation of the central government the same cannot be said for England. Here the so called Free English fight against the rightfully elected government of England.

To USCA
From USER

We urge you to remain out of affairs that have nothing to do with you.

To the peoples under the control of the English rebellion in Asia
From the USER

The USER comes as your liberators. We seek your independence. We have the word of the People's Republic of England that they will dismiss all claims to Asia and India if you turn your arms against your oppressors. However we remind those who stand with the rebellion that they stand against the people and while we do not wish for bloodshed we stand for the people of India and Indochina!

Why fight and die for a rebellion of Englishmen, when you can fight and win your freedom from tyranny forever joining the ranks of equals in the family of nations. Youre proud and ancient peoples deserve nothing less. Depose the so called Free English regime that continues to hold the masses of Asia under their chains, rise up, claim your independence and the USER will assist you in any way you can.

Once again we come as liberators and seek have no territorial wish from this campaign.
 
i dislike this update. more grumbling later.
 
AH its one of those updates. Meh, whine and ***** as much as you'd like, some things may be changed but others will certainly not. These are my favorite kinds of updates.
 
Firstly:

OOC: IMO my generals should still have made the Panama operation. This was the major part of my campaign and sucha a minor disturbance shouldn't canncel the entire operation. What the hell are they thinking? Most of them were involved in the USCA war, and I would expect them to be happy about an opportunity to "pay back", even in such a minor way (violation of admiral law I guess). Noboy would have been hurt, or atleast nobody who counted.
I ordered more then just the initial "taking" of the canal afterall.

Also, I wonder why part 3 of my plan wasn't carried out either. I seriously wonder what my generals are doing all the time. Third time an entire operation wasn't carried out at all. Some 100.000 soldiers should be on the OTHER side of the border.

I hope atleast that my blockade is in effect.

IC:

From: Empire of Brazil
To: USCA


You are moving on thin ice my friend! Very thin ice!

Not only did you very well know about my declaration of war against Columbia, as I declared in public, so that everybody could hear it, in hope of preventing any "incidents".

You even knew that my operations would involve the Panama Canal, as we talked about the matter in detail.

You even offered me to help me. Actually you even wanted to send troops, on a misson to conquer Panama for yourself.

Therefore I see your actions as a direct attack on the war effort and on Brazil itself.

If you do not withdraw ANY claims on the Panama Canal and on Panama in general and declare COMPLETE neutrality in this conflict, you will be considered as an enemy of Brazil and therefore we will treat you as an enemy deserves.

So speaks Pedro Henrique of Orléans-Braganza, Emperor of Brazil
 
To: Axis
From: The Netherlands
The USCA have illegally imprisoned many of our citizens. We want your full support in this crisis. Unless we get the diplomatic support that we are entitled to we will not have any credibility left for this alliance.

To: USER
From: Netherlands
Now that there is a cease-fire in effect in France, you should turn over the french colonies to a joint-peace-force and the colonies should be put under international control.
 
@luckymoose. 14 IC.
not england britian as in scotland and n. ireland i''l do the math. it's like 20 per turn about since you have to divide irelands then add it.
 
Nice Update!!!!

(I don't get anything :()

Anyways, to the diplo.

From Spain
To France

Please, stop the civil war. Try to come to an agreement, where parts of your governmental systems are made into one.

To USA

We are horrified by your invasion of New England and California. We have issued a warning, only this time, we intend to keep our promises to California, and the USCA.

To USCA

Want to join the Union, in case USA attacks?

To Germany

For how much may we buy the medium tank technology?

To Axis

We are formally cutting raw material trade with the Axis and the opposing sides. We don't want to help supply war weapons, or anything remote to that.
 
To: Brazil
From: USCA

It would seem you are confused about the situation.

Not only did you very well know about my declaration of war against Columbia, as I declared in public, so that everybody could hear it, in hope of preventing any "incidents".

This deal was made before the declaration because of extenuating cirumstances, and you were informed of it. Don't act surprised Tossi.

You even knew that my operations would involve the Panama Canal, as we talked about the matter in detail.
We spoke of the matter in detail, and i told you i was purchaing the land. You said you were invading, so i offered SEVERAL compromises, which you rejected. So simply, I purchased the land, i legally own it, and i sent messangers to your invasion forces telling them of this and even offering to guide them to new spots.

You even offered me to help me. Actually you even wanted to send troops, on a misson to conquer Panama for yourself.

Not true at all. I offered you help by giving you technologies so this situation wouldn't happen. Why would i discuss military action if i was purchasing the land. You rejected the technologies, unwilling to negotiate.

Therefore I see your actions as a direct attack on the war effort and on Brazil itself.

Then you must be blind. I am in the right here, and my offers of placation and help still stand but this is no attack as the matter was settled BEFORE your declaration. You are simply looking to expand out of South America into Central America. I will remain friendly with you, and i suggest you do the same.

If you do not withdraw ANY claims on the Panama Canal and on Panama in general and declare COMPLETE neutrality in this conflict, you will be considered as an enemy of Brazil and therefore we will treat you as an enemy deserves.

As a Christian nation, we will simply turn the other cheek and remain friendly. We still extend the olive branch, but the Canal zone is ours. We will withdraw claims on the Panama Canal, and the Canal of the USCA is the only Canal that links the two seas. It has been renamed, and we withdraw claims on Panama, because the lands you refer to are now the States of Veraguas and Colon.

We wish only to be friends with you. We informed you of the move, it is legal, and we have offered you compensation. What more can you want then simply more and more bloodshed?

We urge the international community to stand with us on this issue.

-President Juan Antonio, Mayor que cualquier emperador
 
carmen510 said:
To Germany

For how much may we buy the medium tank technology?

To Axis

We are formally cutting raw material trade with the Axis and the opposing sides. We don't want to help supply war weapons, or anything remote to that.

From Germany
To Spain

We are unwilling to work with the nation of Spain since you have an imposed a raw material embargo against us. The Germans also do not know why you refuse to supply nations with the material to make war yet you expect us to supply you with war material?

From Germany
To USER

We know the Free English are rebels but that does not make what they are doing is wrong. We ask in the sake of peace another election that is fair so the Free English will lay down their arms. If you refuse you will be fighting a long war in lands that refuse to allow you to occupy them. Much of English proper will be devastated and the main casulties will once again be civilians.
 
From: Empire of Brazil
To: USCA

This deal was made before the declaration because of extenuating cirumstances, and you were informed of it. Don't act surprised Tossi.
You informed us, that you were going topurchase the Panama canal. However it was made clear, that this deal of course no longer applys, due to the recent change of events. You did comply this! (and stay IC)

We spoke of the matter in detail, and i told you i was purchaing the land. You said you were invading, so i offered SEVERAL compromises, which you rejected. So simply, I purchased the land, i legally own it, and i sent messangers to your invasion forces telling them of this and even offering to guide them to new spots.
This is ridiculous. You did indeed offer several "compromises", which were all far away from reality. Therefore we settled the matter and moved on to a different topic. The case was sealed. You lied to me and caused much grievence by doing so.
What the hell are you thinking? Next time you will buy the Columbian capitel, just as my troops are closing in?

Not true at all. I offered you help by giving you technologies so this situation wouldn't happen. Why would i discuss military action if i was purchasing the land. You rejected the technologies, unwilling to negotiate.
Stop this lieing! Your inital proposal was: "Let me keep all the lands I can take." No, this can not be interpreted in any other way.
And offering something that I already have? Sure!

Then you must be blind. I am in the right here, and my offers of placation and help still stand but this is no attack as the matter was settled BEFORE your declaration. You are simply looking to expand out of South America into Central America. I will remain friendly with you, and i suggest you do the same.
Are you inclining that the war on Columbia is not justified? Hopefully you will think similar when I sink some of YOUR warships.
The war has nullified your deals. You agreed to this. What you are trying to do is the following: As I did not agree to your ridiculous proposals you simply decided to try it that hard way. Just grap that land and hope that the world community will protect me. Hah!

As a Christian nation, we will simply turn the other cheek and remain friendly. We still extend the olive branch, but the Canal zone is ours. We will withdraw claims on the Panama Canal, and the Canal of the USCA is the only Canal that links the two seas. It has been renamed, and we withdraw claims on Panama, because the lands you refer to are now the States of Veraguas and Colon.
Do not attempt to play any games with me..

We wish only to be friends with you. We informed you of the move, it is legal, and we have offered you compensation. What more can you want then simply more and more bloodshed?

I repeat:

If you do not withdraw ANY claims on the Panama Canal and on Panama in general and declare COMPLETE neutrality in this conflict, you will be considered as an enemy of Brazil and therefore we will treat you as an enemy deserves.

We urge the international community to stand with us on this issue.

And we urge the international community to be reasonable and either stay neutal, or support US.


So speaks Pedro Henrique of Orléans-Braganza, Emperor of Brazil
 
To Free American alliance
From USA

The world is becoming unsafe, and we are doing nothing to help. We will be willing to talk about peace
 
Orders later tonight hopefully.
 
To USA
From AHY

We commend your peace efforts, however we insist that you return all captured lands to the FAA. Otherwise we shall see you as a warmongering country who then goes and asks for peace, just to gain a bit of land.
 
IceEye said:
To: USCA
From: Netherlands
You WILL release our citizens at once or we WILL come in and get them. Your choice.

eq: I thought I wrote something in my orders about this?

What are you talking about? I see nothing in the recent update but if I missed it please quote for me.
 
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