In the Shadow of Rome

To Free France
From USER

Do not use the title France are you are not it.

As there WAS NO legitmate government of France and thus those colonies had no authority over them we merly gave them authroity, peace and stability. They are happy and will remain content citizens of the USER. This will not change so do not contact us any further about this and we will not recognise any and all claims made by France on this topic regarding ownership of the lands you stole from these people.
 
WE stole it from them? That is a dubious point, unlike the fact that you stole it from us. We repeat, your claims to these territories violate all international law.
 
International law is a point of conjecture and we say you occupation of these lands violated the rights of the people living there.
 
To: USCA
From: Netherlands
You now accuse us of collaborating with the communists? Your lies are really going out of control atm.

It was YOU who took the help from the communists as our ever-victorious forces approached your cities. It was the DUTCH that stood at the ramparts in France, spilling our blood against the communist hordes approaching Paris while you did nothing except maybe slaughtered some Cubans.

What have YOU done against the communists? Invading Cuba, occupying the panama channel and other imperialistic actions of you hardly count I´m afraid.

To: Axis
From: Netherlands
We once again plead for your help and support in this issue. The USCA has illeagally taken many of our citizens as hostages accusing them of spying without ANY proof.
 
From: Free France
To: USER

But you yourself denied them the right to self-determination. How is that better?
 
To Free France
From the USER

Au contraie, we gave them self determination by reuniting them with their fellow African peoples.
 
From: Russia
To: USCA

Hmm, just exactly where is your proof?
 
Azale said:
From: Russia
To: USCA

Hmm, just exactly where is your proof?
To: Russia
CC: All the Newspapers in the American Continents
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Of what?

I'll go through my claims:

The Dutch deny their trangressions: They will not even acknowledge that less than half a year ago they had ILLEGALLY and WITHOUT WARNING invaded us, and in this war over 2 Million of our people were gased or slaughtered by Imperialist Troops. They killed a significant portion of this, but now operate under the assumption this never happened. They sought entrance into our territory after we asked them not to, then told them not to because they had recently killed so many of our citiziens. They did anyway, and the light consequences we set upon them were carried out. Now they refuse to apologize for their actions.

and are supported by Communists. It would seem they want to break up the Axis, to attack its foundations:

Russia and the USCA are the founding members of the Axis, and the USCA expending MUCH political capital to expand this Alliance for Freedom. Now the Dutch have jumped on the bandwagon that Russia and I constructed and call for the REMOVAL of the USCA for that Alliance. And who supports them in that call, I ask you? None other but USER, the leader and orchastrator of all the Communists and Communist Movements!

such a small country, such an insignificant people, who are supported by communists, who want to break up the only bulwark against the communist threat:

It is a know fact that the Netherlands is a very small country and it people matter very little. To make it seem as if they matter they make outlandish claims and invade and slaughter innocent people. My other points are supported as above.

who incite International Crisis by acting better than all when in fact they are worse than most:

We are in that Crisis right now, and it is incited by the Dutch who refuse to apologize for their horrible crimes, who pretend they love freedom when the only love money, and who ignore the soverignity of countries continually, falsly beleiving they matter.

Don't you find that a bit suspicious?

It sounds to me like the support the Commies

a few of whom were spies:

We will not reveal the secrets of our intelligence agencies, but after interrogation, we are told they confessed

Now to refute the Dutch Statements

Your lies are really going out of control atm:

We don't lie, we have the truth backed up by facts. And the Dutch have degraded our people by calling us ATMs, Automatic Teller Machines

It was YOU who took the help from the communists as our ever-victorious forces approached your cities.

When, you mean when your forces were genociding our people, when they were burning our towns? When the kept invading us, and we were FORCED to ask anyone to condemn them, to stop them for the love of god. We were not happy it was the Communists who responded, but I, Juan Antonio, did my duty to save my people! I have tried to cleanse my self of my sin by helping to create the Axis Alliance of Freedom.

It was the DUTCH that stood at the ramparts in France, spilling our blood against the communist hordes approaching Paris while you did nothing except maybe slaughtered some Cubans:

The Dutch sought only to save their asses, having failed to stabilize their own lands while invading and slaughtering Americanos. And while your citiziens failed in both their endeavors against the Communists and Against us, we prevailed on both accounts. The Cuban's called out for freedom when the communists revolted, and we gave that to them. We crushed the communists and now Cuba is prosperious in our arms, while blood flows in France because you failed.

What have YOU done against the communists? Invading Cuba, occupying the panama channel and other imperialistic actions of you hardly count I´m afraid:

It seems unfortunatly your arrogance blinds you, and you have yet to learn there are other ways to fight a war than to throw the lives of your men away. We crushed a revolution in Cuba and have given them freedom, we have subsidiesed the Free English, and so on and so forth. And we purchased the Canal Zone and Former Panama because we wish to spread our prosperity and Freedom, to share our Wealth, while all you do is make conflicts and shed blood.
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I show you Russia, the Axis, and The World, I am in the right, and the Dutch are nothing but hotheaded useless failures. I still call only for their apology for all their trangressions and false claims, and their worthless citiziens shall be released.

OOC: Azale, if your going to take a world power, you should really read what happened before you took them. And You should talk to EQ about what Russia did before you took it.
 
To Axis
From USA

What has become of us???? Before, we were an alliance, who saught to protect our Nations from communism. Now all were doing is fighting among ourselves, and a war between our own alliance would be horrible. So, Im not saying who's right, and who's wrong, but we really need to work this out before this turns into a civil, or maybe even world, war.
 
but we really need to work this out before this turns into a civil war
a little late me thinks
 
German Diplomatic Statement

Germany finds both the USCA and the Netherlands valuable members of the Axis. The issues between the USCA and the Netherlands are not in the buisiness of the Axis but between the Netherlands and USCA. We urge both parties to work out some agreement. Germany offers itself as a third party for negiotations to take place and so many other nations probably would do as well.

Diplomatic Statement Regarding France

Germany will uphold the elections and ensure they go through fairly. Germany will continue too support Free France's call for self determination of the former French communists. Germany refuses for now on to engage in unilateral talks with the USER until they apologize for their insults against the German government and their people. Germany is not a warmongering nation as our nation has not once ever invaded a nation or engaged in offensive actions against any power for many years. We have taken tough stances on issues facing the international community but that should not be translated into warmongering.
 
....where to start....

ooc: Please stop making ooc comments, like atm and stfu etc. Stay in character.

ic:

1. Dont bold some text as your own statements and mix it with our quotes. If you are quoting me, show that in some way. With the current presentation of your text one gets very confused what was quoteing and what was not.
2. Your entire statement is so OT. If you just were to release the citizens you illegally imprisoned there would be no crisis, and no need for us to write long posts to each other!

The Dutch deny their trangressions
I think we can agree to disagree on this. We are not denying that we attacked you because you provoked us, England, France and Belgium. Actually you provoked all european nations with colonies or territory in america. We haven´t tried to hide the fact that we did attack you, but we are not appologizing for it!

and are supported by Communists. It would seem they want to break up the Axis, to attack its foundations
If it wasn´t for the USER, you would no longer be there to trouble the world! We would´ve broken you up into something better than you are now. It is you that got saved by the communists.
And if you call yourself the "foundation" of the Axis alliance, something we hardly think is the case, then yes, action is required from us to get our illegally imprisoned citizens released from you.

who incite International Crisis by acting better than all when in fact they are worse than most
Just release our illegally imprisoned citizens and there will be no more crisis. It is ALL up to you!

We don't lie, we have the truth backed up by facts
The only fact is that you illegally imprisoned our citizens, just release them and stop turning your illegal actions into an international crisis!

Furthermore, that you are making our troops sacrifice into something that according to you does not count is outrageous. Perhaps all the brave Russian and other axis soldiers´ sacrifice does not matter to you but I can assure you that it matters to many.


We encourage other Axis members to exclude the USCA from the Axis or at least put pressure on them to release our citizens!
 
To USCA, Netherlands
From USA

From the way I see it, it looks like you both need to compromise. The USCA needs to release the Citizens yes, But the Dutch may need to swallow their pride a little and apologise. Then you both get what you want.
 
orders sent...
 
To: all concerned with this hoopla
From: Mexico

Last time war hit USCA our economy was harmed. We do not want war. But we believe those taken captive by USCA should be put on a Axis trial. One that involves all members of the axis. And we must remember it all comes from the chain of command, so these men are most likely innocent if their orders came from the government. So to create a non bias sphere we should have the axis as a whole put these men on trial. If these men are found to be from Dutch Government and had direct orders from their government to spy on USCA, it may be nescessary to put certain restrictions on Dutch ports for a period of time, or if the Axis sees it nescessary, we can elect the Dutch out of the Axis by a two thirds majority. Not to mention this would be a good idea for the Axis to work effectively, having to require a two thirds majority for the admittance or expulsion of members.
 
I'm going to take a look at orders to see who's I have. If I have enough vital orders (from all Great Powers and combatants) then i will give ya'll an early update.


about the USCA: They do have rightful claims on the entire isthmus of Panama, which were taken in the mid nineteenth centry by the Colombian armies. Cuba not so much, but for the past 50 years there has been local support for addmittance to the USCA, as demonstrated by the USCA victory in the elections.

To: The World
From: Confederate States of America

We support the claims of the USCA on Cuba and the Panama Canal, and we will not take kindly to any disregardment of their rightful claims.
 
To USER, AHY
C.C. the world
Even though the USER and it's puppet PRE refuse to allow elections to beheld in the PRE controled sections of the nation of England, we will go ahead and do just that. to that Extent, we request that the USER and AHY send us Several observers, so that we may Insure that these elctions are not tampred with in any way.
While we will asign Guards and closely scrutinize the USER observers, we will not interfeer with their movments. though they are warned to stay indoores, as your recent actions have angered some of our citizens.
We also Request that should an AHY observer be captured by your trops, you return him unharmed to his nation.
We will abide by the results of the election. no matter what the outcome.
the PRE is welcome to propose their own canidates for the election.
 
Well I don't have enough orders, so update will be on schedule for tomorrow afternoon.
 
Wow. I give up
 
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